# Divorce & Eve assets **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [May 10, 2021, 11:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/divorce-eve-assets/310416 "2021-05-10T11:59:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Cypherous](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cypherous/32/499883_2.png) [@Cypherous](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cypherous)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2021, 11:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/divorce-eve-assets/310416/122 "2021-05-12T23:32:59Z")
> [@Shea\_Tzestu](#): > > CCP claiming they own your stuff is likely incorrect even if they host it. They claim they own their own stuff, the EULA only grants you permission to use an account they let you create, as a user you legally own nothing and they aren’t required to let you keep accessing it Even _if_ they hypothetically ruled you had to split the assets they have no real world value so you need to give them exactly $0 worth of assets ---
**Author:** ![Nascent3ch0](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nascent3ch0/32/374213_2.png) [@Nascent3ch0](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nascent3ch0)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2021, 12:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/divorce-eve-assets/310416/123 "2021-05-13T00:56:29Z")
> [@Veta\_Toralen](#): > > Well it all happened pretty fast and I don’t have a lawyer. your first mistake and last mistake ---
**Author:** ![Fale\_Einn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fale_einn/32/477432_2.png) [@Fale\_Einn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Fale_Einn)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2021, 2:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/divorce-eve-assets/310416/124 "2021-05-13T02:41:41Z")
> [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > Unless he is Dredd. He IS the law. Hahahahaha!!! Thank you for that! ---
**Author:** ![doodel\_danger](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/doodel_danger/32/254134_2.png) [@doodel\_danger](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/doodel_danger)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2021, 2:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/divorce-eve-assets/310416/125 "2021-05-13T02:58:28Z")
My ibis is property of CCP ---
**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2021, 3:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/divorce-eve-assets/310416/126 "2021-05-13T03:08:49Z")
You really should get Babatunde B Babatunde - Attorney at law on the case ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2021, 3:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/divorce-eve-assets/310416/127 "2021-05-13T03:37:52Z")
naaaaa go for the best ones in no particular order harvey specter ![Unknown-1](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/4/0/b/40b011657919efc2370ce2a5727b3ab48979c522.jpeg) harvey birdman ![Unknown-2](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/e/c/0/ec0b8742ae1dd42489f7ecc3f95ff79381560d23.jpeg) johnnie"chewbacca defense" cochran ![Chewbacca_defense](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/a/f/6/af609e2c9fda4eff369a981b8cd74b8f8392e974.jpeg) saul goodman ![Unknown](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/7/2/f/72fb4e60303e43e81d6c6eba385fd4dd69af34c1.jpeg) or phoenix wright OFC ![Unknown-3](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/b/e/1/be1489f2e144d27e424b69343cd87b2d871a98c7.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2021, 4:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/divorce-eve-assets/310416/128 "2021-05-13T04:12:45Z")
Don’t forget Saul! ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2021, 4:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/divorce-eve-assets/310416/129 "2021-05-13T04:13:09Z")
omg yeah sry fixed ---
**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2021, 4:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/divorce-eve-assets/310416/130 "2021-05-13T04:32:28Z")
> [@Wadiest\_Yong](#): > > I’d say there are mercs around who would gladly separate (ex-)wife from said goods in a number of creative ways I’m sure Princess Aiko has a service like this already. ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2021, 5:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/divorce-eve-assets/310416/131 "2021-05-13T05:45:12Z")
Aiko IS the ex-wife. ---
**Author:** ![Wadiest\_Yong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wadiest_yong/32/426921_2.png) [@Wadiest\_Yong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wadiest_Yong)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2021, 11:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/divorce-eve-assets/310416/132 "2021-05-13T11:47:46Z")
> [@Ramik](#): > > Armchair legal-eagles should also consider the difference between a EULA and a court ruling. I suspect that if a court ruling is made that you have an asset, then in legal terms - you have that asset. > > I am not a lawyer. No. This is not a simple matter of a EULA, or the business of a company, being inferior to a court decision in some foreign country. The business is entitled to specify the terms of the business (product). The customer agrees with those terms. That agreement is binding. If a business sells only cows, a judge ruling it’s dogs as well is a fool unless he has proof that goes beyond “I consider them all animals hence the company sells animals, this court rules that they will refund the cow because it doesn’t bark nor guards the house”. CCP is not part of the gambling industry, there are no payouts. ---
**Author:** ![Ramik](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramik/32/214029_2.png) [@Ramik](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramik)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2021, 12:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/divorce-eve-assets/310416/133 "2021-05-13T12:47:46Z")
An asset does not have to be saleable to have a monetary value (check your own legal jurisdiction for clarification). It is entirely feasible to value an asset using a “replacement cost” method or a “use of” method. If a court rules that you have an asset and that asset’s value then in the eyes of the law, you have that asset. This is not in conflict with CCP, the EULA or any binding agreements an individual has with a company. [own opinion / not a lawyer etc] ---
**Author:** ![Wadiest\_Yong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wadiest_yong/32/426921_2.png) [@Wadiest\_Yong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wadiest_Yong)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2021, 2:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/divorce-eve-assets/310416/134 "2021-05-13T14:34:49Z")
Saying you have an in game-asset is one thing, saying that the virtual asset is part of the community (marriage) “value” is very different, attaching a monetary value to an EvE asset is plain wrong and should be opposed. Try to get the monetary value out, that’s the litmus test. That would also suggest that if the claimant had any hobbies of his/her own half of the “value” of the “assets” there could be claimed in response. Or why divorces get messy, mostly from poor judging. ---
**Author:** ![Wargod7850\_Deninard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wargod7850_deninard/32/261169_2.png) [@Wargod7850\_Deninard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wargod7850_Deninard)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2021, 4:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/divorce-eve-assets/310416/135 "2021-05-13T16:03:41Z")
let this post die, it is dumb ---
**Author:** ![Shea\_Tzestu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shea_tzestu/32/263279_2.png) [@Shea\_Tzestu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shea_Tzestu)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2021, 6:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/divorce-eve-assets/310416/136 "2021-05-13T18:19:14Z")
> [@Wadiest\_Yong](#): > > CCP is not part of the gambling industry, there are no payouts. Buy subscriptions for space money wait for receiver pay out on unfulfilled subscription, get paid out. Also the entire RMT industry would disagree, they make their livelyhoods from $ cash outs in Eve. ---
**Author:** ![Wadiest\_Yong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wadiest_yong/32/426921_2.png) [@Wadiest\_Yong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wadiest_Yong)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2021, 12:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/divorce-eve-assets/310416/138 "2021-05-14T00:02:23Z")
At least make it look like you’re joking. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2021, 5:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/divorce-eve-assets/310416/139 "2021-05-14T05:28:46Z")
I thought that was implicit in every post ---
**Author:** ![Wadiest\_Yong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wadiest_yong/32/426921_2.png) [@Wadiest\_Yong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wadiest_Yong)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2021, 7:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/divorce-eve-assets/310416/140 "2021-05-14T07:44:33Z")
Great 😀. That means we can keep it open and add a bit more fun. It’s better than the average whine thread, isn’t it. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2021, 7:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/divorce-eve-assets/310416/141 "2021-05-14T07:46:13Z")
No, its really stupid and crass. At least I can vent at the whine threads. This is just… nothing to do with EvE. ---
**Author:** ![Shea\_Tzestu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shea_tzestu/32/263279_2.png) [@Shea\_Tzestu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shea_Tzestu)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2021, 7:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/divorce-eve-assets/310416/142 "2021-05-14T07:58:31Z")
RMT = Drug dealing apparently, won’t someone think of the children? RMT is not a crime, nor is it immoral. Imagine Ford saying you were not allowed to sell 2nd hand cars because 2nd hand cars damage the car manufacturers sales of new cars. Then they tried to justify it by saying well some 2nd hand cars are stolen. That is CCP’'s position on RMT. So throw a pennt to your Corp rmt’r. Also plenty of druglord kingpins have had their dealing obtained wealth & assets halved in divorce’s. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/divorce-eve-assets/310416.md?page=6) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/divorce-eve-assets/310416.md?page=8)