# Do you have to play forever? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [January 17, 2022, 6:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-have-to-play-forever/346192 "2022-01-17T18:58:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2022, 8:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-have-to-play-forever/346192/63 "2022-01-18T20:24:23Z")
> [@Jin\_Endares](#): > > in null, you don’t have the choice (usually) of NPC stations. Yes, you do, there are NPC stations in null - if you choose not to use them, that’s kind of YOUR choice and you need to take RESPONSIBILITY for YOUR choices. ---
**Author:** ![Jin\_Endares](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jin_endares/32/413291_2.png) [@Jin\_Endares](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jin_Endares)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2022, 8:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-have-to-play-forever/346192/64 "2022-01-18T20:26:42Z")
Not many (if any) NPC stations in sov null. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2022, 8:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-have-to-play-forever/346192/65 "2022-01-18T20:27:13Z")
That’s YOUR choice where to operate. You don’t get to claim the benefits of nullsec, and then refuse to accept the risks. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2022, 8:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-have-to-play-forever/346192/66 "2022-01-18T20:31:01Z")
If you guys can’t handle nullsec, maybe you should move back to Highsec?? ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2022, 8:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-have-to-play-forever/346192/67 "2022-01-18T20:37:56Z")
They can’t move back to highsec, they keep getting ganked. ---
**Author:** ![Adm\_Malkaviano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/adm_malkaviano/32/496610_2.png) [@Adm\_Malkaviano](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Adm_Malkaviano)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2022, 9:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-have-to-play-forever/346192/68 "2022-01-18T21:04:13Z")
> [@Ginja\_Flame](#): > > This sounds like somebody that lives in HiSec and does nothing with their life besides LvL 4 Missions 😉 lol, you summoned me. How may I help you? ---
**Author:** ![Ginja\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ginja_flame/32/391593_2.png) [@Ginja\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ginja_Flame)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2022, 9:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-have-to-play-forever/346192/69 "2022-01-18T21:31:44Z")
Hahahah 👍👍👍 ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2022, 10:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-have-to-play-forever/346192/70 "2022-01-18T22:20:38Z")
> [@Wes\_Wyhunnan](#): > > I get the complaint, but at the same time the course of events that happened to that keepstar have never happened in Eve before, ever. Under normal keepstar mechanics all those ships would have been sent to asset safety. That was a crazy **unique event**. You must be living under a rock or something, this very mechanic is being used by certain hisec entities that force certain station owners to hand over public stations and then let them go abandoned and then blow them up and scoop the loot. It has been going on for quite some time. Hardly unique, except it was a Keepstar, that was the unique part… ---
**Author:** ![Dark\_Lord\_Trump](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dark_lord_trump/32/411482_2.png) [@Dark\_Lord\_Trump](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dark_Lord_Trump)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2022, 10:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-have-to-play-forever/346192/71 "2022-01-18T22:25:23Z")
This is why I thought abandoned structures losing asset safety were dumb. Coming back to find all your ■■■■ stolen because you had the gall to take a few weeks off is not going to improve player retention. What I find especially egregious is that citadels are LESS safe than what used to be player stations in nullsec. At least with those you had the option of firesaling your stuff or otherwise finding some sneaky way to extract it, here if your station goes abandoned it ejects all your stuff into the hands of some sticky fingered mouth breather. ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/5/4/6/5461d85406cc33f514c3915a10d0151666807b97.png) ---
**Author:** ![Codename\_Razorback](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/codename_razorback/32/486427_2.png) [@Codename\_Razorback](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Codename_Razorback)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2022, 10:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-have-to-play-forever/346192/72 "2022-01-18T22:56:36Z")
> [@Dark\_Lord\_Trump](#): > > improve player retention From where I’m sitting, CCP has been purposely suppressing player numbers since 2005. There have been so many obvious opportunities to increase our player base over the years that have been ignored. The whole, “niche” approach hasn’t helped either. **World of Warcraft** sucks (IMO) but they have 26 million active players. How does that happen? EVEOnline should have MORE player than WoW…easily. ---
**Author:** ![Jin\_Endares](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jin_endares/32/413291_2.png) [@Jin\_Endares](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jin_Endares)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2022, 12:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-have-to-play-forever/346192/73 "2022-01-19T00:12:26Z")
Something I’m missing: If the Keepstar was owned by AOM, how did Goons get control of it? ---
**Author:** ![Dark\_Lord\_Trump](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dark_lord_trump/32/411482_2.png) [@Dark\_Lord\_Trump](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dark_Lord_Trump)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2022, 12:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-have-to-play-forever/346192/74 "2022-01-19T00:24:30Z")
AOM apparently tried to sneak into goons by way of ranger regiment, went as expected. ---
**Author:** ![Jin\_Endares](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jin_endares/32/413291_2.png) [@Jin\_Endares](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jin_Endares)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2022, 12:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-have-to-play-forever/346192/75 "2022-01-19T00:39:41Z")
But I still don’t get how the ownership/control of the keepstar changed from AOM to Goons. ---
**Author:** ![Codename\_Razorback](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/codename_razorback/32/486427_2.png) [@Codename\_Razorback](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Codename_Razorback)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2022, 12:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-have-to-play-forever/346192/76 "2022-01-19T00:55:02Z")
> [@Jin\_Endares](#): > > I read that AOM literally bought the RR leadership accounts outside the game for RL $$. You’re treading on a slippery slope… ---
**Author:** ![Optimus\_Maximus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/optimus_maximus/32/368882_2.png) [@Optimus\_Maximus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Optimus_Maximus)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2022, 3:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-have-to-play-forever/346192/77 "2022-01-19T03:21:44Z")
Yes, OP, once you start playing EVE, it’s forever. There’s no way out. If you ever try to bail out, CCP “businessmen” will pay you a “friendly” visit to you to remind you what’s expected of you. So know your place to avoid situations hazardous to your health. ---
**Author:** ![God\_Emperor\_Kane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/god_emperor_kane/32/399336_2.png) [@God\_Emperor\_Kane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/God_Emperor_Kane)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2022, 7:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-have-to-play-forever/346192/78 "2022-01-19T07:38:59Z")
Own a structure, You will learn quickly that you can just right click and transfer a structure to another corp as long as you have the roles. ---
**Author:** ![Cypherous](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cypherous/32/499883_2.png) [@Cypherous](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cypherous)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2022, 11:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-have-to-play-forever/346192/79 "2022-01-19T11:39:03Z")
Solution: don’t buy things you can’t store in an NPC station if you plan on taking a long time off _drops mic_ ---
**Author:** ![Adm\_Malkaviano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/adm_malkaviano/32/496610_2.png) [@Adm\_Malkaviano](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Adm_Malkaviano)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2022, 12:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-have-to-play-forever/346192/80 "2022-01-19T12:07:12Z")
Let him do it! \*\* grabs popcorn \*\* ---
**Author:** ![Kaivarian\_Coste](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kaivarian_coste/32/413759_2.png) [@Kaivarian\_Coste](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kaivarian_Coste)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2022, 2:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-have-to-play-forever/346192/81 "2022-01-19T14:02:59Z")
OP, you made the mistake of trusting CCP. Do not trust CCP. Even better, win Eve and find a better game to play. Or put that subscription money into something more entertaining. ---
**Author:** ![Leggone\_Stracks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/leggone_stracks/32/290900_2.png) [@Leggone\_Stracks](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Leggone_Stracks)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2022, 6:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-have-to-play-forever/346192/82 "2022-01-19T18:05:33Z")
I don’t remember when it occurred to me, but Null Sec in Eve is a great example that power abhors a vacuum. Where there are no rules, humming beings will invent and enforce them. But there is a lot of empty space out there. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-have-to-play-forever/346192.md?page=3) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-have-to-play-forever/346192.md?page=5)