# Do you hope EVE dies or...?

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-hope-eve-dies-or/329298>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [September 22, 2021, 8:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-hope-eve-dies-or/329298 "2021-09-22T20:07:48Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2021, 7:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-hope-eve-dies-or/329298/21 "2021-09-23T07:31:42Z")

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> [@Han\_Zealot](#):
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> World of Warship is now my favorite game
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> … thieves.

Thats ironic lol

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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2021, 8:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-hope-eve-dies-or/329298/22 "2021-09-23T08:16:29Z")

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How do I vote?

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**Author:** ![Han\_Zealot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/han_zealot/32/300893_2.png) [@Han\_Zealot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Han_Zealot)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2021, 8:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-hope-eve-dies-or/329298/23 "2021-09-23T08:47:09Z")

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> [@Nana\_Skalski](#):
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> How do I vote?

I closed the voting process. It’s clear that most players want EVE to be around until Kingdom Come.  
I wanted that too but not anymore. EVE is rigged just like Planetside 2 is. Bunch of cheaters and thieves.  
I hope the game dies a horrible death and CCP goes bankrupt as Karma for ripping off the players and backstabbing Bluelysian.  
Lord in Heaven hear me.

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**Author:** ![Obed\_Marshh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/obed_marshh/32/459118_2.png) [@Obed\_Marshh](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Obed_Marshh)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2021, 4:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-hope-eve-dies-or/329298/24 "2021-09-23T16:01:44Z")

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> [@Han\_Zealot](#):
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> It’s clear that most players want EVE to be around until Kingdom Come.

Ummm… your sample was less than 40 people. I’m not sure that’s a good representation of “most players”.

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**Author:** ![Xuixien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuixien/32/416896_2.png) [@Xuixien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuixien)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2021, 5:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-hope-eve-dies-or/329298/25 "2021-09-23T17:16:35Z")

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EVE doesn’t appeal to general gamers. The more CCP tries to appeal to general gamers, the more they just lose the people who play EVE.

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**Author:** ![Obed\_Marshh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/obed_marshh/32/459118_2.png) [@Obed\_Marshh](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Obed_Marshh)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2021, 5:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-hope-eve-dies-or/329298/26 "2021-09-23T17:19:09Z")

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Agreed. I’d rather have a niche product that does its thing well, rather than something watered down for the lowest common denominator.

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**Author:** ![Pehatpsegk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pehatpsegk/32/288619_2.png) [@Pehatpsegk](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pehatpsegk)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2021, 6:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-hope-eve-dies-or/329298/27 "2021-09-23T18:22:25Z")

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@Han_Zealot My intent is to ride out EvE and see what happens. Hopefully you’ll try that too, but of course, as you wish. EvE is special to me (“awww - so sweet pookums” yeah yeah, I hear y’all) and I care about it more than a person should for a video game. Que sera sera. I don’t think EvE will last and that pains me some, but that’s not a hope but rather more of an observation. I at least intend to fiddle as Rome burns.

I didn’t know planetside2 had those issues. Frankly I can’t say that I care much, really. Planetside2 isn’t special to me like EvE is I’ve played that for a long time now, and will probably do so more soon (haven’t for a bit, but those fools still must be shown the ways of Vanu, ya know)

You might be interested in checking out Warframe.

07

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**Author:** ![Trix\_LaBelle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/trix_labelle/32/292766_2.png) [@Trix\_LaBelle](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Trix_LaBelle)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2021, 7:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-hope-eve-dies-or/329298/28 "2021-09-23T19:42:43Z")

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Absolutely not. There’s nothing else like it.

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**Author:** ![Gadget\_Helmsdottir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gadget_helmsdottir/32/374037_2.png) [@Gadget\_Helmsdottir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gadget_Helmsdottir)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2021, 7:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-hope-eve-dies-or/329298/29 "2021-09-23T19:45:23Z")

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I hope it sticks around for a long while yet.

I would love a decent VR version someday, too.

–Gadget Dreams

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**Author:** ![Gadget\_Helmsdottir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gadget_helmsdottir/32/374037_2.png) [@Gadget\_Helmsdottir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gadget_Helmsdottir)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2021, 7:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-hope-eve-dies-or/329298/30 "2021-09-23T19:48:19Z")

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Meh,

I played Shadowbane.

It’s tame here.

–Gadget loved her Aracoix Scout

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**Author:** ![Obed\_Marshh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/obed_marshh/32/459118_2.png) [@Obed\_Marshh](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Obed_Marshh)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2021, 8:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-hope-eve-dies-or/329298/31 "2021-09-23T20:23:40Z")

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> [@Gadget\_Helmsdottir](#):
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> I hope it sticks around for a long while yet.
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> I would love a decent VR version someday, too.

Same here. I’d love a vr version, and I miss playing in 3d.

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**Author:** ![Xuixien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuixien/32/416896_2.png) [@Xuixien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuixien)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2021, 10:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-hope-eve-dies-or/329298/32 "2021-09-24T10:54:06Z")

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> [@Pehatpsegk](#):
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> I didn’t know planetside2 had those issues.

PS2 sucks and has for a few years now. It’s full of cheeseplay (people who can sit permacloaked and then 1 shot you with a _sidearm_, meanwhile a Heavy Assault’s _primary weapon_ can take several shots to kill someone), not to mention rampant hacking and lagwizardy (oh did you shoot me? oops I killed you first you just haven’t gotten the message from the server yet lmao rekt).

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**Author:** ![Tarsas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tarsas/32/289693_2.png) [@Tarsas](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tarsas)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2021, 4:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-hope-eve-dies-or/329298/33 "2021-09-24T16:05:30Z")

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Sounds like War Thunder and World of Tanks.

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**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2021, 4:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-hope-eve-dies-or/329298/34 "2021-09-24T16:20:19Z")

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> [@Tarsas](#):
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> Sounds like War Thunder and World of Tanks.

im playing wotb like a heroin addict  
i guess EVE let me down 😭

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**Author:** ![Tarsas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tarsas/32/289693_2.png) [@Tarsas](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tarsas)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2021, 4:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-hope-eve-dies-or/329298/35 "2021-09-24T16:58:27Z")

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I just couldn’t handle the wild RNG in those tank warfare games, I put a 155mm HE shell point blank into a glaring weak spot and do hardly any damage, then I take a hit on the thickness part of my armor from across the field and nearly get one-shoted.

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**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2021, 5:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-hope-eve-dies-or/329298/36 "2021-09-24T17:50:33Z")

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you need to git gud first them rng jesus like you 😛

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**Author:** ![Fale\_Einn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fale_einn/32/477432_2.png) [@Fale\_Einn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Fale_Einn)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2021, 10:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-hope-eve-dies-or/329298/37 "2021-09-24T22:08:26Z")

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I hope you are right, and hope the same for myself. I also hope that the people who said “I have no hope” are proven wrong someday, I think they would love that.

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**Author:** ![Fale\_Einn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fale_einn/32/477432_2.png) [@Fale\_Einn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Fale_Einn)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2021, 10:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-hope-eve-dies-or/329298/38 "2021-09-24T22:09:03Z")

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Yes!!!

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**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2021, 11:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-hope-eve-dies-or/329298/39 "2021-09-24T23:18:24Z")

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This type of games usually don’t die. They just slowely decline and eventually become an undead husk with only some hardcore fanboys left that let themselves milk with over the top monetization.

EVE was truly special. Sadly, greed and a complete loss of the original vision kinda removed it as a game I’m interested in playing. I’m sure it’s still fun for a lot of people.

But it seems plain to me that it is indeed in the decline phase without any hope on the horizon that CCP even has plans how to turn this around. I think they lost all the people that had a great vision and pushed the game to new heights, and only have people left that just implement orders from on-high to squeeze some more monetization vectors in.

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2021, 12:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-hope-eve-dies-or/329298/40 "2021-09-25T00:05:29Z")

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NO WAY KARAK.

THE BEST YEARS OF EVE LIE IN THE FUTURE!

Now that all the bittervets and lazy original bears are dying off, the newer younger more vibrant generation is taking over!

WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

🚀

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