# Do you hope EVE dies or...? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [September 22, 2021, 8:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-hope-eve-dies-or/329298 "2021-09-22T20:07:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Nadia\_Bulkalov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nadia_bulkalov/32/289063_2.png) [@Nadia\_Bulkalov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nadia_Bulkalov)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2021, 5:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-hope-eve-dies-or/329298/61 "2021-09-25T17:26:17Z")
> [@Pehatpsegk](#): > > Actually…yes you can…if that is what you want… Clans can build Dojos, where all the clan can go (and a guest player you invite[usually for trade]). That sounds interesting. we will look into this game. we might try it as we are now seriously considering quitting this festering cheat swamp that EVE turned into. ---
**Author:** ![Nadia\_Bulkalov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nadia_bulkalov/32/289063_2.png) [@Nadia\_Bulkalov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nadia_Bulkalov)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2021, 5:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-hope-eve-dies-or/329298/62 "2021-09-25T17:27:11Z")
> [@Kellie\_McCalamitie](#): > > I don’t want to “chill” in a PvP game, I want to BLOW SH!T UP!! then go play Fortnite or World of tanks and leave us alone! ---
**Author:** ![Pehatpsegk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pehatpsegk/32/288619_2.png) [@Pehatpsegk](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pehatpsegk)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2021, 6:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-hope-eve-dies-or/329298/63 "2021-09-25T18:26:38Z")
> [@Nadia\_Bulkalov](#): > > That sounds interesting. we will look into this game. we might try it as we are now seriously considering quitting this festering cheat swamp that EVE turned into. Ah, crap…what have I done? ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/e/e/f/eeff05d0d73c8aebd05d1009676bde7a3d46462b.gif) ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/4/9/c/49c9cf04d75fa9b570b7a90995a071cc557bdb75.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Aaaarrgg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aaaarrgg/32/395089_2.png) [@Aaaarrgg](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aaaarrgg)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2021, 6:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-hope-eve-dies-or/329298/64 "2021-09-25T18:51:01Z")
> [@Kellie\_McCalamitie](#): > > I don’t know… I’m getting bored with it. I don’t understand how people have played for years. I’m barely a month into it and everytime I go to click on the shortcut now another game pops into mind. sounds like you have yet to start playing EVE. > [@Kellie\_McCalamitie](#): > > I want to BLOW SH!T UP!! but that’s too expensive in EVE. You mean to tell me everytime I do PvP I’m going to have to grind for two weks just for one ship and lose it in 15 seconds?? Is CCP kidding me?!? OH let me guess, I have to open my wallet and buy PLEX, right? Hmm, money for Omega PLUS money for PLEX? > My money doesn’t grow on trees. my ships cost a little over 1 million isk and i get a lot of fun from them, ships you fly do not need to be expensive. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2021, 6:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-hope-eve-dies-or/329298/65 "2021-09-25T18:52:57Z")
> [@Nadia\_Bulkalov](#): > > fun and relaxing activities, that we can do in groups and afk. like mining and industry I.e. afk isk krabbing. Cant you just admit thats what you like? Or would you do those things if there was no isk in it? Oh wait Industry got fked so lol to that. > [@Nadia\_Bulkalov](#): > > can you do fleets in Elite? Yes. You can even do corps now. Hell you can even all sit on the same giant shipstation “chilling” and being in a private session so you dont need to be scared of other players. ---
**Author:** ![Nadia\_Bulkalov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nadia_bulkalov/32/289063_2.png) [@Nadia\_Bulkalov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nadia_Bulkalov)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2021, 7:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-hope-eve-dies-or/329298/66 "2021-09-25T19:39:43Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > Cant you just admit thats what you like? YES THAT IS WHAT WE LIKE TO DO! what am I supposed to be ashamed of it? we play eve to relax! like any other game. Jesus Christ! some of you people are psychopaths! > [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > Yes. You can even do corps now. Hell you can even all sit on the same giant shipstation “chilling” and being in a private session so you dont need to be scared of other players. elite is too pilot intensive and demanding. no thanks! ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2021, 8:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-hope-eve-dies-or/329298/67 "2021-09-25T20:01:17Z")
> [@Nadia\_Bulkalov](#): > > YES THAT IS WHAT WE LIKE TO DO! So why do you say one thing when you admit its something else? Are you ashamed to be truthful? ---
**Author:** ![Nadia\_Bulkalov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nadia_bulkalov/32/289063_2.png) [@Nadia\_Bulkalov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nadia_Bulkalov)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2021, 8:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-hope-eve-dies-or/329298/68 "2021-09-25T20:05:44Z")
what? what are you talking about? i always said we like mining and producing and chilling out as a group. what is so hard to understand? ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2021, 8:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-hope-eve-dies-or/329298/69 "2021-09-25T20:13:54Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > I.e. afk isk krabbing. > [@Nadia\_Bulkalov](#): > > YES THAT IS WHAT WE LIKE TO DO! Which is different words. Different words have different meanings. Why so defensive about being a lazy krab if there’s no shame in it? ---
**Author:** ![Nadia\_Bulkalov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nadia_bulkalov/32/289063_2.png) [@Nadia\_Bulkalov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nadia_Bulkalov)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2021, 8:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-hope-eve-dies-or/329298/70 "2021-09-25T20:19:33Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > Why so defensive about being a lazy krab you call mining for days, researching bpo’s for YEARS, training skills for YEARS, inventing T12 bpcs, building the whole spectrum of modules and ships except capitals but sometimes even those, all that effort and commitment you call being lazy? check your values! and learn to respect other people! ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2021, 8:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-hope-eve-dies-or/329298/71 "2021-09-25T20:26:03Z")
> [@Nadia\_Bulkalov](#): > > you call mining for days, researching bpo’s for YEARS, training skills for YEARS, inventing T12 bpcs, building the whole spectrum of modules and ships except capitals but sometimes even those, all that effort and commitment you call being lazy? Yes, its all extremely passive. I know because its what I do while hauling. > [@Nadia\_Bulkalov](#): > > learn to respect other people! > [@Nadia\_Bulkalov](#): > > Jesus Christ! some of you people are psychopaths! > [@Nadia\_Bulkalov](#): > > go play Fortnite > [@Nadia\_Bulkalov](#): > > festering cheat swamp Like you do? Pretty sure I already do that, too. Well, maybe I dont accuse people of cheating when they dont play a way I find acceptable, should I do that too? Is that respecting other people? ---
**Author:** ![Kellie\_McCalamitie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kellie_mccalamitie/32/285447_2.png) [@Kellie\_McCalamitie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kellie_McCalamitie)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2021, 1:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-hope-eve-dies-or/329298/72 "2021-09-26T01:28:47Z")
> [@Nadia\_Bulkalov](#): > > then go play Fortnite or World of tanks and leave us alone! I’ll do what I please, thank you. ---
**Author:** ![Nadia\_Bulkalov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nadia_bulkalov/32/289063_2.png) [@Nadia\_Bulkalov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nadia_Bulkalov)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2021, 1:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-hope-eve-dies-or/329298/73 "2021-09-27T01:24:29Z")
you may do what you please, but you suffer the consequences! ---
**Author:** ![Kellie\_McCalamitie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kellie_mccalamitie/32/285447_2.png) [@Kellie\_McCalamitie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kellie_McCalamitie)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2021, 5:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-hope-eve-dies-or/329298/74 "2021-09-27T05:21:15Z")
> [@Nadia\_Bulkalov](#): > > but you suffer the consequences! Yes, and what suffering… I don’t think I can stand it. ---
**Author:** ![Tarsas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tarsas/32/289693_2.png) [@Tarsas](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tarsas)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2021, 6:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-hope-eve-dies-or/329298/75 "2021-09-27T18:30:14Z")
Festering cheat swamp? I seriously doubt that anyone is cheating. That would mean someone had hacked the code and inflated their stats or was manipulating some kind of glitch. ---
**Author:** ![Gadget\_Helmsdottir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gadget_helmsdottir/32/374037_2.png) [@Gadget\_Helmsdottir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gadget_Helmsdottir)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2021, 12:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-hope-eve-dies-or/329298/76 "2021-09-28T12:28:19Z")
Well, plenty of accounts get banned, so there are a few cheating. –Gadget is just sayin’ ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2021, 1:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-hope-eve-dies-or/329298/77 "2021-09-28T13:23:25Z")
There’s reasons to be banned other than cheating. Also, while botting may be cheating, it is not the kind of cheating that person has made claims about. ---
**Author:** ![Tarsas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tarsas/32/289693_2.png) [@Tarsas](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tarsas)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2021, 6:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-hope-eve-dies-or/329298/78 "2021-09-28T18:24:24Z")
I’m sure the TOS has changed since I last read it. ---
**Author:** ![Rroff](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rroff/32/509119_2.png) [@Rroff](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rroff)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2021, 6:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-hope-eve-dies-or/329298/79 "2021-09-28T18:34:45Z")
> [@Tarsas](#): > > Festering cheat swamp? > > I seriously doubt that anyone is cheating. That would mean someone had hacked the code and inflated their stats or was manipulating some kind of glitch. It isn’t a game which gives much potential for traditional cheating like an aimbot - but there was years ago a trade window exploit where it was possible to inject code into the client and alter the terms of the trade outside of game restrictions. No idea as to what is and isn’t possible these days. For instance if it is coded correctly the data for things like a cloaked player’s position would never be sent to other clients and the server should be fully authoritative on things like damage baring serious bugs or developer complicity in enabling cheating (which sadly has happened, albeit rarely, historically). ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2021, 6:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-hope-eve-dies-or/329298/80 "2021-09-28T18:58:53Z")
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