# Do you prefer the new or old forums? \[POLL\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Forum Feedback & Requests\ **Created:** [June 21, 2017, 1:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-prefer-the-new-or-old-forums-poll/4683 "2017-06-21T01:13:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![Arronicus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arronicus/32/267860_2.png) [@Arronicus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arronicus)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2017, 2:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-prefer-the-new-or-old-forums-poll/4683/182 "2017-08-09T14:27:24Z")
New forums are definitely better in most ways. Just a shame we’ve lost the ability to quickly see what corp/alliance someone was in, and we can see fewer posts on the screen. ---
**Author:** ![Veskin\_Sentinel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/veskin_sentinel/32/506480_2.png) [@Veskin\_Sentinel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Veskin_Sentinel)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2017, 3:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-prefer-the-new-or-old-forums-poll/4683/183 "2017-08-09T15:09:23Z")
> [@Arline\_Kley](#): > > Not really. 6 weeks is pretty short timeline, especially when no other alternatives were even offered. A thing like this should have really taken at least 3 months, with only the GD section being made read only just on the off chance that the forums just didn’t work. > > Except CCP jumped the boat, threw everything on to it and went “POST ALL THE THINGS HERE!” without realising that “Whoops, we need to make a new wide theme. Oh we’re going to have to get 3rd parties to do scripts for it”. To be fair, the forums have been stable, but just their implementation has been a bit of a train wreck. Hmm… fair to say. I guess not all the outcomes could be predicted and maybe they rushed it a bit, but I guess they have been confident after testing the features internally. For me the 6 weeks period seemed good enough. When I checked the new forums my first impression was like: “What is this mess?!” Then I began to use it, went through the tutorials that the bot gave me, and in just a few all seemed pretty natural and working just fine. Takes some getting used to, but overall it is a good experience. > [@Arronicus](#): > > New forums are definitely better in most ways. Just a shame we’ve lost the ability to quickly see what corp/alliance someone was in, and we can see fewer posts on the screen. Yes, we need the old function that showed the corp/alliance of the poster, I agree. And please - larger and square avatars! Probably there are other things that can be improved, but these two are on the top of my list. ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2017, 5:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-prefer-the-new-or-old-forums-poll/4683/184 "2017-08-09T17:04:31Z")
> [@Veskin\_Sentinel](#): > > Yes, we need the old function that showed the corp/alliance of the poster, I agree. And please - larger and square avatars! Probably there are other things that can be improved, but these two are on the top of my list. > [@\[UserScript\] Avatar Size & Sub-Category Adjustment](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/userscript-avatar-size-sub-category-adjustment/9032): > > This is a simple UserScript that I made that does a couple things to edit the visual appearance of the new forums to adjust a few things that I didn’t like too much. Hope you enjoy! If you like this script or even use it now, please leave a like or comment! Please also comment if you have any issues. grin What this script does: Adjusts the sub-categories to list vertically vs. side by side Resizes the user avatar on posts from 45x45 to 120x120 Readjust and Re-position avatar image on the U… I added those user scripts to my browser and the forums look much better as well as being more user friendly. ---
**Author:** ![Roesjka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/roesjka/32/248600_2.png) [@Roesjka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Roesjka)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2017, 7:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-prefer-the-new-or-old-forums-poll/4683/185 "2017-08-09T19:35:16Z")
I miss my signature. Don’t know where to put it unless I am missing something. cheers ---
**Author:** ![Arline\_Kley](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arline_kley/32/466734_2.png) [@Arline\_Kley](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arline_Kley)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2017, 8:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-prefer-the-new-or-old-forums-poll/4683/186 "2017-08-09T20:37:18Z")
You can’t. Discourse Devs believe themselves to be above such things. ---
**Author:** ![Veskin\_Sentinel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/veskin_sentinel/32/506480_2.png) [@Veskin\_Sentinel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Veskin_Sentinel)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2017, 11:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-prefer-the-new-or-old-forums-poll/4683/187 "2017-08-09T23:43:00Z")
Thank you for sharing this! These scripts work nicely! Good call! 😀 ---
**Author:** ![Spc\_One](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/spc_one/32/399501_2.png) [@Spc\_One](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Spc_One)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2017, 6:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-prefer-the-new-or-old-forums-poll/4683/188 "2017-08-10T06:21:09Z")
New forums don’t even work on old iPhone with iOS 6.1.3 And CCP says “it’s more mobile device frienldy” What a joke. Old forums worked perfectly fine on iOS 6.1.3 The problem with iOS 6.1.3 is that i can’t even select character when i log in. Totally useless crap. ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/2X/d/dd9086e2936f52925601d54bfed51d286f0ee522.PNG) Give us back old forums and remove this forums. ---
**Author:** ![Hanno\_Falkor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hanno_falkor/32/432462_2.png) [@Hanno\_Falkor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hanno_Falkor)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2017, 10:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-prefer-the-new-or-old-forums-poll/4683/189 "2017-08-10T10:31:42Z")
Referring to posts is easy as Aura since there are options to link and name post number which can be typed in the URL. ---
**Author:** ![Yiole\_Gionglao](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yiole_gionglao/32/374866_2.png) [@Yiole\_Gionglao](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yiole_Gionglao)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2017, 5:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-prefer-the-new-or-old-forums-poll/4683/190 "2017-08-11T05:44:55Z")
When the answer to a question is “something that someone posted somewhere near page 6” all the search, filter, bookmark and et cetera functions are useless. There is a reason why mankind dropped scrolls in favour of books 1700 effing years ago, and a reason why page numbers are key to the advancement and sharing of knowledge. All the search and filter and bookmark functions of Discourshit could be the same in a paged forum and that forum wouldn’t be crippled by the ultimate idiocy of infinite scroll. Not to mention that CCP pussied off of letting the users use Discourshit’s most prominent feature, aka built-in message system. ---
**Author:** ![radkid10](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/radkid10/32/312530_2.png) [@radkid10](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/radkid10)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2017, 9:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-prefer-the-new-or-old-forums-poll/4683/191 "2017-08-11T09:17:25Z")
I love the older forums cuz you can see what alliance and Corporation somebody’s in ---
**Author:** ![Morrigan\_Laima](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/morrigan_laima/32/12340_2.png) [@Morrigan\_Laima](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Morrigan_Laima)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2017, 10:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-prefer-the-new-or-old-forums-poll/4683/192 "2017-08-11T22:07:48Z")
I can much more easily write something like: ```auto @Chocolate_Pickle commented on this here: https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-prefer-the-new-or-old-forums-poll/4683/172 ``` Which turns into: @Chocolate_Pickle commented on this here: > [@Do you prefer the new or old forums? \[POLL\]](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-prefer-the-new-or-old-forums-poll/4683/172): > > Paged forum shape is useful for finding posts/discussion. CCP Falcon commented with some useful information on Page 6 of this thread. You don’t get such benefit on continual scrolling. So basically, if you want people to read something and never come back, scrolling is a-okay. But if you’re treating the forum as reference material (and that’s what Dev posts are), then pages are a very useful thing to have. There’s several ways to get the link directly to the comment, but the easiest is the upper right hand corner, where the timestamp of the post is actually a direct link. ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/2X/a/a6f20aa00468549070fc4fc0ebb45bc002ce9782.png) The URL in the browser also follows the scroll, so as you scroll through a post, you can copy and paste from there too. ---
**Author:** ![Bad\_Messenger](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bad_messenger/32/399185_2.png) [@Bad\_Messenger](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bad_Messenger)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2017, 8:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-prefer-the-new-or-old-forums-poll/4683/193 "2017-08-12T08:18:25Z")
sadly your example is somehow broken, at least on my browser, and part of text is clipping out of area. must be very handy ! ---
**Author:** ![Chocolate\_Pickle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chocolate_pickle/32/12219_2.png) [@Chocolate\_Pickle](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chocolate_Pickle)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2017, 12:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-prefer-the-new-or-old-forums-poll/4683/194 "2017-08-13T12:03:58Z")
Linking directly to comments (a feature I genuinely like, as with tagging people) is good **once you’ve found them**. My claim is that a paged-forum makes it easieir to come back at a _far_ later date and find something that you didn’t copy/write-down/link to in the first place. Maybe that post wasn’t relevant to you at the time, but has become relevant now. Can you easily find the post where CCP Rise clarified that the jump range increase from 5-to-6 AU didn’t apply to Blops? ---
**Author:** ![Morrigan\_Laima](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/morrigan_laima/32/12340_2.png) [@Morrigan\_Laima](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Morrigan_Laima)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2017, 2:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-prefer-the-new-or-old-forums-poll/4683/195 "2017-08-14T02:55:05Z")
Considering that the search box can be constrained by thread, I’d expect to be able to find something within a thread just as easily as I can find a particular thread. On a side note, I should also point out there’s a built-in bookmarking system, hiding under the triple dot menu next to the reply button. ---
**Author:** ![Alexander\_Draegar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alexander_draegar/32/317696_2.png) [@Alexander\_Draegar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alexander_Draegar)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2017, 7:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-prefer-the-new-or-old-forums-poll/4683/196 "2017-08-14T07:45:36Z")
Well, out with the old, in with the new, right? Maybe, on my end. I feel that there are major good points and major faults with the new system that’s been set into place, so I’ll just take the time to break down the good, the bad, and the ugly. First off, here’s what I like about the forums: 1. Overall, it’s rather **simplistic in nature** , and as such major forums are easy at least to find. If I do get lost (and get lost I will), I can bookmark everything, including behind CCP Falcon’s t-shirt if I really wanted to. 2. **The interface is outstanding** , and I get a real-time picture of what I’m typing. I’ve got so many bells and whistles that it’s hard to use them all at any given point! The team has really outdone itself here. 🙂 3. The **notifications panel** seems to have taken on a life of its own, sort of like Frankenstein. All I’ve got to do is go there and I know precisely what’s going on, and this offers a better picture of who’s blowing up what inbox without me having to login to the game client. Overall, IT’S ALIVE!!! However, with all these pros, there are several cons that have likely also been addressed by other users. However, I still wish to re-iterate them, because at the end of the day I **hate** being that jackass who says absolutely nothing even when my OCD is going completely berserk on me. 1. A **less blocky list format on threads** would be pretty rad. The old forums, while good, still had a blocky feel because they remained stuck to the old 4:3 aspect ratio that still prevails on the Internet for some reason. This new design, ironically enough, significantly compounds on that problem. Threads are hard to read and follow because they make so little use of horizontal space. Overall, it’s not easy on my eyes. 2. Ease up on **color contrast** , please! All these bright blues against a dark grey background hurt my eyes. A more subdued blue would do wonders for those like me (read: those with no life) who like to stare at screens all day 😛 3. **Pages!!!** It absolutely murders CPU and RAM on slower machines, to have absolutely massive pages that go on without end for larger threads like this one. Not to mention it lends a bit more organization to the thread, so that browsing and going back to specific replies becomes easier. If this were implemented, it’d make life easier for a lot of people. 4. _More a suggestion than a peeve_, I would love to see **individual faction themes** make their way onto the forums, not unlike the way they have for the game client’s interface. I think it would be the coolest thing since sliced bread in terms of EVE’s message boards. ---
**Author:** ![Morrigan\_Laima](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/morrigan_laima/32/12340_2.png) [@Morrigan\_Laima](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Morrigan_Laima)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2017, 10:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-prefer-the-new-or-old-forums-poll/4683/197 "2017-08-14T10:29:56Z")
> [@Alexander\_Draegar](#): > > Pages!!! It absolutely murders CPU and RAM on slower machines, to have absolutely massive pages that go on without end for larger threads like this one. Not to mention it lends a bit more organization to the thread, so that browsing and going back to specific replies becomes easier. If this were implemented, it’d make life easier for a lot of people. Actually, no, it doesn’t. You will normally only have around 20 posts loaded at a time, because posts are loaded and unloaded from the page in the background as you scroll. That’s why the slider is needed, because the regular scroll bar lies about your position in the page. Performance wise, it works well even on anemic smartphone CPUs with considerably less RAM than any machine that could possibly play EVE. If your computer’s struggling with CPU/RAM on this site, something else is wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Renfus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/renfus/32/172747_2.png) [@Renfus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Renfus)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2017, 4:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-prefer-the-new-or-old-forums-poll/4683/198 "2017-08-14T16:11:39Z")
it would be nice if i could post a new topic in other areas like recruitment \>.\< ---
**Author:** ![Inactive\_Seller](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/inactive_seller/32/424362_2.png) [@Inactive\_Seller](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Inactive_Seller)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2017, 10:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-prefer-the-new-or-old-forums-poll/4683/199 "2017-08-15T22:23:56Z")
The main problem for many of Us is nbandwidth. Some of us have a los connection (4 mb) and if u have a good computer with 32 gb ram anyway you have problems. ---
**Author:** ![Rain6637](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rain6637/32/404316_2.png) [@Rain6637](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rain6637)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2020, 5:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-prefer-the-new-or-old-forums-poll/4683/200 "2020-09-12T17:24:37Z")
It says the last post in this thread is from August 2017. I thought the new forums closed threads after a few weeks. Is it being kept alive by the poll? edit: _a few years later_ ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2020, 2:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-prefer-the-new-or-old-forums-poll/4683/201 "2020-09-13T02:25:50Z")
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