# Do you prefer the new or old forums? \[POLL\]

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-prefer-the-new-or-old-forums-poll/4683>\
**Category:** Forum Feedback & Requests\
**Created:** [June 21, 2017, 1:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-prefer-the-new-or-old-forums-poll/4683 "2017-06-21T01:13:26Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2017, 10:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-prefer-the-new-or-old-forums-poll/4683/41 "2017-06-21T22:47:25Z")

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> [@Yiole\_Gionglao](#):
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> Do you know what pisses me off of infinite scroll? This technology was rendered obsolete 1,500 years ago, when scrolls were replaced by books. Books not only were easier to manufacture, but pages

Mobile devices are pretty quickly replacing books and infinite scroll is much nicer on a mobile device than pagination is.

At the end of the day, it’s impossible to please 100% of people, but pleasing the majority of people is a good goal. Mobile devices are ubiquitous on the web, so it’s a good goal to make a pleasing user experience for.

Unfortunately, there are also some people that no matter what CCP does, they’ll continue to complain regardless. What should CCP do other than ignore them?

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**Author:** ![Morrigan\_Laima](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/morrigan_laima/32/12340_2.png) [@Morrigan\_Laima](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Morrigan_Laima)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2017, 11:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-prefer-the-new-or-old-forums-poll/4683/42 "2017-06-21T23:17:16Z")

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Not only that, but pagination means a page load. Part of how Discourse manages to be so fast and responsive with all the bells and whistles is that it loads the page _once_, and then never has to load the full page again the entire time you are on the site. Loading as you scroll happens smoothly, rather than waiting several seconds, and having to use the back button to go back past an arbitrary post limit.

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**Author:** ![Madame\_Erika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/madame_erika/32/24290_2.png) [@Madame\_Erika](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Madame_Erika)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2017, 11:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-prefer-the-new-or-old-forums-poll/4683/43 "2017-06-21T23:41:35Z")

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The blue scroll bar actually works pretty well. I tested with that 900 post thread in GD, you can navigate to particular part of a huge thread rather accurately. And it appears it only loads the part where you scrolled to, so it actually saves data than loading pages.

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**Author:** ![ISD\_Stall](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_stall/32/12239_2.png) [@ISD\_Stall](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Stall)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 12:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-prefer-the-new-or-old-forums-poll/4683/44 "2017-06-22T00:11:49Z")

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I’ve also noticed that your page URL updates as you stop scrolling so that is just another way to jump to a specific post :parrot:

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**Author:** ![Sgt\_Ocker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sgt_ocker/32/270881_2.png) [@Sgt\_Ocker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sgt_Ocker)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 12:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-prefer-the-new-or-old-forums-poll/4683/45 "2017-06-22T00:33:05Z")

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And of course CCP opted to go with something that suits an unknown minority.

How many people actually sit at a computer with their mobile phone reading forums?

And the overall layout, WOW. I just went looking for a thread I had viewed earlier, opened up the category it was in and be fuked if i could find it. Scrolling through all that shite to find one post is just not worth it.

If this is the future of Eve forums, I’ll stick to Reddit from now on…

NB, In wide mode (which is slightly better) the annoying scroll bar at the right covers up the Reply button if you happen to resize your browser, so you can’y actually reply to posts

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/2X/8/8ddfbffb5992404f047e1043fcdb02ed31dfae2c.PNG)

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**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 12:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-prefer-the-new-or-old-forums-poll/4683/46 "2017-06-22T00:39:15Z")

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> [@Sgt\_Ocker](#):
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> just went looking for a thread I had viewed earlier, opened up the category it was in and be fuked if i could find it. Scrolling through all that shite to find one post is just not worth it.

Aside from this temporary forum, General Discussion has the most threads and it’s only at 10 at the moment.

You don’t need to look at the categories in ‘all’ mode. You can select which subforum you want, just like with the old forums:

![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/2X/0/0b5fc561922085c1516db012813aaddcba969d40.png)

It’s different to the old forums, but not less functional and just as easy to find stuff (and search works properly) when you get used to it.

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**Author:** ![Juvenius\_Drakonius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/juvenius_drakonius/32/465769_2.png) [@Juvenius\_Drakonius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Juvenius_Drakonius)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 12:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-prefer-the-new-or-old-forums-poll/4683/47 "2017-06-22T00:45:02Z")

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I LIKE IT A LOT!

![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/2X/8/88968aecf2b5d68db82f4c80f31d80b7e532cec7.gif)

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**Author:** ![Sgt\_Ocker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sgt_ocker/32/270881_2.png) [@Sgt\_Ocker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sgt_Ocker)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 12:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-prefer-the-new-or-old-forums-poll/4683/48 "2017-06-22T00:50:42Z")

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Search is fine if you know the exact name of what you are looking for - It is not intuitive at all…

But in this situation it was the New Forum Feedback thread I was trying to search - Once you have viewed a topic it somehow disappears and ends up in an endless list.

Click on NEW FORUM FEEDBACK and scroll down, you will see 102 “posts”, are they, or are they threads, who would know it’s just an endless list…

The post i was looking at was made in the last hour but doesn’t appear to be in the last hour or even 2 hours according to the list… So where did it go?

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**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 12:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-prefer-the-new-or-old-forums-poll/4683/49 "2017-06-22T00:56:06Z")

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Just like the old forum with pagination, when threads are posted in, they come to the top.

So if a forum was moving as quickly as this (eg. Character Bazaar or Corp Recruitment forums) threads disappear off the front page quickly.

Here, the difference is there is no need to click through different pages. Definitely different and will take some time to adjust to, but I suspect, once the initial flurry of activity passes, threads will remain close to the top of forums for a while, like they remain on the front page on the old forums for a while.

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**Author:** ![Madame\_Erika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/madame_erika/32/24290_2.png) [@Madame\_Erika](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Madame_Erika)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 1:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-prefer-the-new-or-old-forums-poll/4683/50 "2017-06-22T01:00:18Z")

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I posted this bug awhile ago it should be fixed by now.  
Check this [post](https://meta.eveonline.com/t/script-to-enable-a-fullscreen-forum-view-mode-instead-of-everything-down-the-middle/4047/24?u=madame_erika)

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**Author:** ![Sgt\_Ocker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sgt_ocker/32/270881_2.png) [@Sgt\_Ocker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sgt_Ocker)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 1:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-prefer-the-new-or-old-forums-poll/4683/51 "2017-06-22T01:05:12Z")

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Yeah it isn’t. I have different sized monitors and had the forum on my largest to get a good look at it. Moving it to the monitor i usually have forums and other apps on caused the issue, now even after closing and reopening the browser the scroll line is in the same place - over the reply button…

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**Author:** ![Xuixien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuixien/32/416896_2.png) [@Xuixien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuixien)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 1:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-prefer-the-new-or-old-forums-poll/4683/52 "2017-06-22T01:07:39Z")

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Honestly what’s going to make or break the new forums is the same thing that (broke) the old forums: whether or not they’re overmoderated.

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**Author:** ![Lulu\_Lunette](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lulu_lunette/32/133822_2.png) [@Lulu\_Lunette](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lulu_Lunette)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 2:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-prefer-the-new-or-old-forums-poll/4683/53 "2017-06-22T02:54:52Z")

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Agreed. If it was not a ‘General Discussion’ it would be locked or moved somewhere that no one would read.

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**Author:** ![ISD\_Stall](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_stall/32/12239_2.png) [@ISD\_Stall](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Stall)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 3:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-prefer-the-new-or-old-forums-poll/4683/54 "2017-06-22T03:40:33Z")

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> [@Sgt\_Ocker](#):
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> NB, In wide mode (which is slightly better) the annoying scroll bar at the right covers up the Reply button if you happen to resize your browser, so you can’y actually reply to posts

Just to clarify, the wide mode is being developed by Avalon, as many people want it. He has been working on it for only a few hours and it is still experimental. I will pass on the issue with the scroll bar tonight, but again the wide mode is not a finished product by any stretch of the imagination.

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**Author:** ![Aareya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aareya/32/184806_2.png) [@Aareya](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aareya)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 3:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-prefer-the-new-or-old-forums-poll/4683/55 "2017-06-22T03:42:22Z")

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I’ve never used Discourse before. It’s certainly different, but I want to give it a fair try.

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**Author:** ![Madame\_Erika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/madame_erika/32/24290_2.png) [@Madame\_Erika](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Madame_Erika)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 3:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-prefer-the-new-or-old-forums-poll/4683/56 "2017-06-22T03:42:57Z")

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I just check again and you’re correct. It’s still overlapping in lower resolution. I messaged Avalon hopefully he’ll fix it soon.

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**Author:** ![ISD\_Stall](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_stall/32/12239_2.png) [@ISD\_Stall](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Stall)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 3:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-prefer-the-new-or-old-forums-poll/4683/57 "2017-06-22T03:57:05Z")

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I have just sent him a notification on our internal communication system. So, he will see it tonight.

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**Author:** ![Loch\_Bannon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/loch_bannon/32/497687_2.png) [@Loch\_Bannon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Loch_Bannon)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 4:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-prefer-the-new-or-old-forums-poll/4683/58 "2017-06-22T04:05:35Z")

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Having the new layout for mobile devices is a HUGE improvement. As with any change, it will take everyone a while to get used to it. Personally, I enjoy the fact that it’s easier to follow the forums on the go.  
It would be nice to see integration/quick access to things such as Evemail and other Eve sites (such as the new Lore site). As the launch announcement indicated however this is only the start of the transition.

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**Author:** ![ISD\_Stall](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_stall/32/12239_2.png) [@ISD\_Stall](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Stall)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 4:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-prefer-the-new-or-old-forums-poll/4683/59 "2017-06-22T04:15:56Z")

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I cannot speak for CCP but I don’t think we would see heavy integration with Tranquillity. One of the reasons for the change was to make it independent of the server so that if TQ was out of action we still had the forums.

That being said, it would be nice to have links to key Eve websites from the forums like we have in every other website.

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**Author:** ![Street\_Corner\_Becky](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/street_corner_becky/32/504982_2.png) [@Street\_Corner\_Becky](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Street_Corner_Becky)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 4:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-prefer-the-new-or-old-forums-poll/4683/60 "2017-06-22T04:55:08Z")

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Not a fan. I am not a forum junky personally and loved the simplicity of the old forums. What was the reason for this change? Seems like a lot of space surrounding the pages that don’t get utilized.

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