# Do you think eves population is declining or incresing and why **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [March 5, 2024, 10:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-think-eves-population-is-declining-or-incresing-and-why/441935 "2024-03-05T22:20:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![Kaj\_A\_Beardhat](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kaj_a_beardhat/32/449367_2.png) [@Kaj\_A\_Beardhat](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kaj_A_Beardhat)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2024, 2:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-think-eves-population-is-declining-or-incresing-and-why/441935/201 "2024-06-12T14:45:15Z")
You sure about that? Once Equinox changes are forced down everyone’s throats the amount of ratting viable space is going to drop drastically, and the ESS is still going to be there to nueter bounty payouts. But hey now leadership can extract goo without paying miners, and have a passive income in the form of moon mining fuel for lowsec. ---
**Author:** ![Kenzore](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kenzore/32/423356_2.png) [@Kenzore](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kenzore)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2024, 9:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-think-eves-population-is-declining-or-incresing-and-why/441935/202 "2024-06-12T21:28:29Z")
> [@Kaj\_A\_Beardhat](#): > > and the ESS is still going to be there to nueter bounty payouts. Before the ESS bounties where always at 100% and never got higher its now over 100% so you are earning more bounties even with ESS than before ESS existed. ---
**Author:** ![Drixie\_Trix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drixie_trix/32/423000_2.png) [@Drixie\_Trix](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Drixie_Trix)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2024, 9:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-think-eves-population-is-declining-or-incresing-and-why/441935/203 "2024-06-12T21:33:46Z")
It looks certain that the population decreased by at least one player. > [@CCP stole my stuff](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-stole-my-stuff/452319): > > What right do you have to turn my billions of isk worth of materials into garbage without any real warning? Really, people spent billions of isk on the materials and blueprints of these items. But I turned around and realized that with a single change, it was all trash. What am I going to do now with Neurolink Conduits worth billions of isk? Why didn’t CCP refund us the isk value or equivalent? I was against these Neurolink Conduits when they came into the game, so what happened to people like … ---
**Author:** ![Felix\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/felix_frostpacker/32/420339_2.png) [@Felix\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Felix_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2024, 5:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-think-eves-population-is-declining-or-incresing-and-why/441935/204 "2024-06-13T05:45:06Z")
Looks as if ganking is still killing content! 🍿 ---
**Author:** ![Drixie\_Trix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drixie_trix/32/423000_2.png) [@Drixie\_Trix](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Drixie_Trix)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2024, 6:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-think-eves-population-is-declining-or-incresing-and-why/441935/205 "2024-06-13T06:56:50Z")
> [@Felix\_Frostpacker](#): > > ganking is still killing content Still working as intended 🍿 ---
**Author:** ![Melina\_Femoti](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/melina_femoti/32/396520_2.png) [@Melina\_Femoti](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Melina_Femoti)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2024, 9:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-think-eves-population-is-declining-or-incresing-and-why/441935/206 "2024-06-13T09:36:59Z")
Nathing wrong with the CCP at all. The sad part is this, nowdays gameing community. They dont wanna play with a good game. Everyone is a gamer for 2 hours/week. This game maded for no life or real gamers who can sit 3-24 hours front of the game. This maded for us who playing with passion. But look around whats happening in the gamer community. Look the popular game streamers. 1-2 day playing something then next game. And nowdays every game is a gender propaganda. Every game in the focus just with gender propaganda. The EVE is " uninteresting " because its a normal game. From 2000 to now the gamer community just grow so big and fast. But the quality is much worst. Maybe i am wrong but i think nathing wrong with the EVE or the CCP. They still making content and makeing a good game. And the CCP dont really need to do " more ", The EVE world it self a random content in every second. The problem the new players want everything take what is done, but when they need make itself the content then just turn away. I think, but its only me. Little co-oping with the Star Citizen maybe bring some players here. You know not so wild just little promoting here and there. Just a little PR. Anyway the short form nathing wrong with the EVE online. This all about the new generation gamers. ---
**Author:** ![Kezrai\_Charzai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kezrai_charzai/32/394578_2.png) [@Kezrai\_Charzai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kezrai_Charzai)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2024, 10:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-think-eves-population-is-declining-or-incresing-and-why/441935/207 "2024-06-13T10:29:30Z")
> [@Melina\_Femoti](#): > > This all about the new generation gamers. Certainly there has been some change in gamers habits. The world changes and people change with it. In 2003 when EVE launched we didn’t all have smartphones that could play games, didn’t have Facebook and Youtube to waste our time on, didn’t have hundreds of thousands of other games out there doing their very best to get our attention. Just keep in mind that nearly all the “old school” gamers who played EVE ‘back then’ are still out there and still gaming. They’ve just moved on to games that deliver more value to them than EVE does. They’re the exact same generation they were before, but their needs and values have changed along with the rest of the world. CCP needs to continue to listen to their own (and their players’) advice: It’s EVE - adapt or die. ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2024, 11:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-think-eves-population-is-declining-or-incresing-and-why/441935/208 "2024-06-13T11:30:10Z")
> [@Kezrai\_Charzai](#): > > Just keep in mind that nearly all the “old school” gamers who played EVE ‘back then’ are still out there and still gaming. They’ve just moved on to games that deliver more value to them than EVE does. They’re the exact same generation they were before, but their needs and values have changed along with the rest of the world. You just made up this nonsense with zero supportive evidence. The forum is full of this sort of thing…people just theorycrafting what they think everyone is doing, usually to suit whatever narrative they wish to portray. ---
**Author:** ![Max\_Deveron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/max_deveron/32/245870_2.png) [@Max\_Deveron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Max_Deveron)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2024, 11:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-think-eves-population-is-declining-or-incresing-and-why/441935/209 "2024-06-13T11:49:36Z")
> [@Shiny\_Garemoko](#): > > There are no wrong ways to play. The actual saying is: There is no correct way to play EvE, but there is a wrong way to play. ---
**Author:** ![Jedagh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jedagh/32/423739_2.png) [@Jedagh](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jedagh)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2024, 1:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-think-eves-population-is-declining-or-incresing-and-why/441935/210 "2024-06-13T13:05:10Z")
> [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > You just made up this nonsense with zero supportive evidence I think the reduction of EvE players from 60k concurrent online characters to 30k is evidence enough to support her “nonsense” as you call it. All I see from you is bragging on the forum and attacking members whose opinions contradict your rosy picture of this game, which is nonsense in itself. I understand that you worship your CCP gods but you don’t need to shove your belief down everybody’s throat. And before you use your favorite nonsense comeback of “_There is no evidence you ever undocked_” well, guess what, I’m a scout alt so if there were any evidence of my undocking that would mean I’m not doing my job correctly. Another truth for you: Nobody cares how many kills you have so you can tone down the bragging and maybe bring something useful to the forum instead. Happy Alt day! o7 ---
**Author:** ![hambogen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hambogen/32/423904_2.png) [@hambogen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/hambogen)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2024, 2:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-think-eves-population-is-declining-or-incresing-and-why/441935/211 "2024-06-13T14:24:39Z")
So since windows 7 access being close how many dropped off after that and how many others that have abandoned windows as a whole couldn’t be bothered with Linux and the mess / new education to figure it out how to even get up and running. i know there will be those stout loyal crusaders preaching for windows upgrades and scary viruses , "insert’ ( CLICK ON DUMB THINGS GET VIRUS ) no actual operating system but anyway keep the copulas scared, i digress. So what impact has this had realistically ? or as usual over the years with ccp nothing to see here and no records were found, genuine tin foil hatters thoughts please. cheers ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2024, 4:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-think-eves-population-is-declining-or-incresing-and-why/441935/212 "2024-06-13T16:55:25Z")
> [@Jedagh](#): > > I think the reduction of EvE players from 60k concurrent online characters to 30k is evidence enough to support her “nonsense” as you call it. Nope…that’s utter nonsense too. Lay off the Quafe. > [@Jedagh](#): > > I understand that you worship your CCP gods Nah…I just grasp that with some players the situation is very much like this… ![PastDismalKookaburra-size_restrictedac2a024ad5cbee25](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/e/6/3/e639a65d774c94c5a6958b8f269a94c81cef11bd.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2024, 4:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-think-eves-population-is-declining-or-incresing-and-why/441935/213 "2024-06-13T16:58:24Z")
> [@Jedagh](#): > > Nobody cares how many kills you have so you can tone down the bragging Make me. Oh…I forgot…none of you guys ever undock. ---
**Author:** ![Jedagh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jedagh/32/423739_2.png) [@Jedagh](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jedagh)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2024, 5:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-think-eves-population-is-declining-or-incresing-and-why/441935/214 "2024-06-13T17:03:50Z")
> [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > Nope…that’s utter nonsense too ![1000001442](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/1/5/9/15967b86bec2016e2886e305ce86c19b0c2e6128.jpeg) > [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > Nah…I just grasp that with some players the situation is very much like this All you are grasping is your own hubris and self-importance. > [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > Make me Forum warrior indeed. > [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > Oh…I forgot…none of you guys ever undock > [@Jedagh](#): > > And before you use your favorite nonsense comeback of “_There is no evidence you ever undocked_” well, guess what, I’m a scout alt so if there were any evidence of my undocking that would mean I’m not doing my job correctly I guess you can barely read too, Mr. Pewpew. ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2024, 5:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-think-eves-population-is-declining-or-incresing-and-why/441935/215 "2024-06-13T17:39:41Z")
> [@Jedagh](#): > > All you are grasping is your own hubris and self-importance. Nah…simply pointing out that THE biggest whiners on the forum are invariably those who actually play the game the least. You sit there in dock and whine about a game you barely even play. _Some_ of us actually undock more often than once a year ! ---
**Author:** ![Jedagh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jedagh/32/423739_2.png) [@Jedagh](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jedagh)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2024, 5:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-think-eves-population-is-declining-or-incresing-and-why/441935/216 "2024-06-13T17:51:03Z")
> [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > whiners Favorite word of the forum warrior. As if throwing that word about makes you better than anyone. It’s a pathetic attempt to get a rise out of the dull-minded. > [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > You sit there in dock and whine about a game you barely even play Rectification: I sit there in dock and pass on intel. But of course that’s too hard to understand for mindless f1 monkeys like you. > [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > _Some_ of us actually undock more often than once a year ! Oh wow, what an accomplishment! You take “risks” in a pixelated world. Ha-haaa!! ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2024, 5:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-think-eves-population-is-declining-or-incresing-and-why/441935/217 "2024-06-13T17:52:19Z")
> [@Jedagh](#): > > It’s a pathetic attempt to get a rise out of the dull-minded. Well you did take the bait…didn’t you. ---
**Author:** ![Jedagh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jedagh/32/423739_2.png) [@Jedagh](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jedagh)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2024, 5:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-think-eves-population-is-declining-or-incresing-and-why/441935/218 "2024-06-13T17:52:49Z")
> [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > Well you did take the bait…didn’t you. Rectification: You took the bait _first_ 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2024, 5:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-think-eves-population-is-declining-or-incresing-and-why/441935/219 "2024-06-13T17:54:10Z")
Ah…now we’re down to the ‘nanananana’ level you have clearly conceded defeat. Yay…another forum killboard record. ---
**Author:** ![Jedagh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jedagh/32/423739_2.png) [@Jedagh](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jedagh)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2024, 5:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-think-eves-population-is-declining-or-incresing-and-why/441935/220 "2024-06-13T17:54:54Z")
> [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > you have clearly conceded defea Yes, I lost a match of forum PvP to a f1 monkey. Congratulations. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-think-eves-population-is-declining-or-incresing-and-why/441935.md?page=10) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-think-eves-population-is-declining-or-incresing-and-why/441935.md?page=12)