# Do you want local? Vote! **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [March 22, 2018, 12:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-local-vote/65125 "2018-03-22T00:38:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Dyver\_Phycad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dyver_phycad/32/358575_2.png) [@Dyver\_Phycad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dyver_Phycad)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2018, 1:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-local-vote/65125/41 "2018-03-22T13:44:01Z")
> [@Oliver\_Delorean](#): > > Just check local chat… hostiles come! -\> Dock up immediately and log off. If you are one of those people, you are part of the problem. Local with hostiles does not force you to log of, it rather tells you to stop bearing and get into your combat ships. If you rather log off, you are part of the disease that makes EVE boring. ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2018, 3:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-local-vote/65125/42 "2018-03-22T15:26:13Z")
> [@Ima\_Wreckyou](#): > > Even CCP Cantmathgood is against local > > ![screen](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/c/b/cb727ce4e7648454b3250a9173f72bfb81a7962e.jpg) It’s amazing what a difference a few hours actually makes. ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/3/9/3977e44ac0a74e7eb822813fcee9208228211640.png) ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2018, 3:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-local-vote/65125/43 "2018-03-22T15:28:55Z")
As was pointed out, any number of alts can be used to pump the votes. The situation is certainly interesting, but this poll is not representational or valid, for many reasons, including its inclusion of LS/NS (as both NPC and Player) as the only other option. CCP, however, hopefully is watching the real data. ---
**Author:** ![Dyver\_Phycad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dyver_phycad/32/358575_2.png) [@Dyver\_Phycad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dyver_Phycad)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2018, 3:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-local-vote/65125/44 "2018-03-22T15:39:56Z")
Even if you use alts, the more characters vote, the harder it becomes to skew the vote and the more “legitimacy” (if you want to call it that anyway as it’s nothing but a meaningless opinion poll without any binding effects) the result holds. So far, 130 votes is anything but representative. ---
**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2018, 3:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-local-vote/65125/45 "2018-03-22T15:46:15Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > Local is a sector mechanic, not a player mechanic. Local is a “magic” intel tool that has no place in a sandbox. It is a crutch for weaker players who maybe should be playing WoW. ---
**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2018, 3:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-local-vote/65125/46 "2018-03-22T15:47:46Z")
> [@Lola\_Isabel](#): > > I also can log my 20 alts and try to manipulate it … This is why if they want to make key decisions based on player input there should be a vote at the Omega account level. ---
**Author:** ![Marsh\_Mauler](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/marsh_mauler/32/58086_2.png) [@Marsh\_Mauler](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Marsh_Mauler)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2018, 4:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-local-vote/65125/47 "2018-03-22T16:32:27Z")
only omegas get a voice? thats racist. ---
**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2018, 4:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-local-vote/65125/48 "2018-03-22T16:33:30Z")
It is a twist on “Put Up or Shut Up” 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Rocket\_Hellfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rocket_hellfire/32/396905_2.png) [@Rocket\_Hellfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rocket_Hellfire)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2018, 4:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-local-vote/65125/49 "2018-03-22T16:46:03Z")
Trying to force others into your play style… If you don’t want a local, there is a simple answer, move to a wormhole or just close your own local, problem solved. Everyone trying to make easy kills easier. lol. so sad. If you want a fight, go find one… oh wait, you don’t want a fight, you just want to pad your kb with indy kills. ---
**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2018, 5:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-local-vote/65125/50 "2018-03-22T17:02:03Z")
> [@Rocket\_Hellfire](#): > > move to a wormhole or just close your own local, problem solved. Welcome to the topic. For the 90745124093743th time, WH and NS are not the same ---
**Author:** ![Rocket\_Hellfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rocket_hellfire/32/396905_2.png) [@Rocket\_Hellfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rocket_Hellfire)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2018, 5:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-local-vote/65125/51 "2018-03-22T17:03:30Z")
ok, then close your own local and pretend everyone else was forced to obey your idiotic idea. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Charley\_Varrick](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/charley_varrick/32/134094_2.png) [@Charley\_Varrick](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Charley_Varrick)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2018, 5:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-local-vote/65125/52 "2018-03-22T17:04:31Z")
Too many players know the game mechanics by heart so I think removing local would be a nice shake up. However, local alone is not enough. Change up d-scan and how players are scanned with probes at the same time. If you are gonna change one you need to change the other! As for how to change them…Good luck finding something everyone agrees on. ---
**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2018, 5:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-local-vote/65125/53 "2018-03-22T17:06:52Z")
> [@Rocket\_Hellfire](#): > > ok, then close your own local and pretend everyone else was forced to obey your idiotic idea. Your “idea” ironically ends with a description of your idea 😄 ---
**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2018, 5:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-local-vote/65125/54 "2018-03-22T17:50:25Z")
> [@Xandar\_Dice](#): > > I mean only wormholes can have no local, local shoukd stay with null and low OIC, some bizarre perceived competition between WH and NS? NS can’t have this “special” feature? OMG LOL ---
**Author:** ![Makshima\_Shogo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/makshima_shogo/32/247769_2.png) [@Makshima\_Shogo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Makshima_Shogo)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2018, 6:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-local-vote/65125/55 "2018-03-22T18:03:03Z")
> [@Rocket\_Hellfire](#): > > ok, then close your own local and pretend everyone else was forced to obey your idiotic idea. > > 😉 You sound like a scared carebear, love how these topics bring people’s true personality out 😂 ---
**Author:** ![CCP\_Falcon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ccp_falcon/32/143229_2.png) [@CCP\_Falcon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CCP_Falcon)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2018, 6:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-local-vote/65125/56 "2018-03-22T18:30:47Z")
There’s already a thread open on local. This one is being closed. ---
**Author:** ![CCP\_Falcon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ccp_falcon/32/143229_2.png) [@CCP\_Falcon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CCP_Falcon)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2018, 6:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-local-vote/65125/57 "2018-03-22T18:30:51Z")
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