# Do you want more protection from people in highsec, or less?

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**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [December 29, 2018, 11:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-more-protection-from-people-in-highsec-or-less/130176 "2018-12-29T11:45:54Z")\
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**Author:** ![Clockwork\_Robot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/clockwork_robot/32/13535_2.png) [@Clockwork\_Robot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Clockwork_Robot)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2019, 5:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-more-protection-from-people-in-highsec-or-less/130176/560 "2019-01-13T17:33:13Z")

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On the off chance that you’re not deliberately misconstruing my statement… The power I was referring to, is in the paradigm that the ganker is the one who decides whether or not any social bond is going to be formed.

Not in whether or not the carebears have an equal chance to stop the gank. Not in game balance, but in where we are socially.

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**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2019, 5:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-more-protection-from-people-in-highsec-or-less/130176/561 "2019-01-13T17:44:35Z")

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> [@Dom\_Arkaral](#):
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> with stuff 100% presented by CCP

100% created from the author.

especially, those two sentences :  
“New players who get killed are _less_ likely to quit!”  
“almost no one who quits the game does so because he lost a ship or felt “harassed””  
were not presented as this by CCP.

(and of course the title of the article)

So yes, this article is falsifying what CCP presented.

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2019, 6:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-more-protection-from-people-in-highsec-or-less/130176/562 "2019-01-13T18:07:35Z")

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It’s called journalistic licence. An author’s inherent subjectivity often colouring their work.

Much like your own posting is coloured by your own, subjective, opinion.

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**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2019, 6:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-more-protection-from-people-in-highsec-or-less/130176/563 "2019-01-13T18:08:28Z")

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![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/e/a/ea0cd126557740d9bcdf6e1c0b9b8416e225c023.jpeg)

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/7/8/7865887b8b768fec6bdb30ce8ad6eb9c6ba67ddb.jpeg)

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/2/9/29ff590a49fa6ff2cfa22aab608b6385c2be23d2.jpeg)  
(ty @Tora_Bushido for the pics)

a presentation by CCP Rise is of course false /s

your response to it just proves that you hate anything proving you wrong 😂  
which is why you’re always so angry about things

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**Author:** ![Solecist\_Project](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solecist_project/32/479741_2.png) [@Solecist\_Project](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solecist_Project)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2019, 6:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-more-protection-from-people-in-highsec-or-less/130176/564 "2019-01-13T18:26:27Z")

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Can someone please give me a list of in game activities the New Order has covered so far?

Is it only ganking?

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**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2019, 6:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-more-protection-from-people-in-highsec-or-less/130176/565 "2019-01-13T18:26:38Z")

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This presentation does not say what is written in the article.  
Just as someone affirming in an article “Dom akraral said he eats carrots” does not make you eat carrots.

BTW you just affirmed nobody ever gets killed by a gun IRL. that’s completely stupid and I think you should be told how dumb you are.

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**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2019, 6:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-more-protection-from-people-in-highsec-or-less/130176/566 "2019-01-13T18:28:52Z")

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-structure destruction  
-tear harvesting  
-death threat harvesting  
-supercap dunking

> [@Anderson\_Geten](#):
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> Just as someone affirming in an article “Dom akraral said he eats carrots” does not make you eat carrots.

if there’s a picture of me eating carrots in said article, it pretty much confirms the statement…

gf

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**Author:** ![Solecist\_Project](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solecist_project/32/479741_2.png) [@Solecist\_Project](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solecist_Project)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2019, 6:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-more-protection-from-people-in-highsec-or-less/130176/567 "2019-01-13T18:30:13Z")

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No I meant ingame activities backed by game mechanics, like mining, PI, mission running, mining, etc.

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**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2019, 6:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-more-protection-from-people-in-highsec-or-less/130176/568 "2019-01-13T18:31:49Z")

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ignore the middle two then 😛

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**Author:** ![Solecist\_Project](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solecist_project/32/479741_2.png) [@Solecist\_Project](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solecist_Project)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2019, 6:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-more-protection-from-people-in-highsec-or-less/130176/569 "2019-01-13T18:34:06Z")

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Well, there’s room for growth then…

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**Author:** ![Solecist\_Project](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solecist_project/32/479741_2.png) [@Solecist\_Project](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solecist_Project)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2019, 6:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-more-protection-from-people-in-highsec-or-less/130176/570 "2019-01-13T18:39:05Z")

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Is it correct to claim the the CODE. alliance is the single most well known alliance in highsec, if not throughout the whole cluster?

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**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2019, 6:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-more-protection-from-people-in-highsec-or-less/130176/571 "2019-01-13T18:41:35Z")

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judging by the constant threads about them both here and on reddit, I’d say so

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**Author:** ![Solecist\_Project](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solecist_project/32/479741_2.png) [@Solecist\_Project](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solecist_Project)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2019, 6:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-more-protection-from-people-in-highsec-or-less/130176/572 "2019-01-13T18:44:46Z")

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Do you have a list (or know how to dig one out) of corporations and or alliances officially being a part of, or supporting the New Order?

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**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2019, 6:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-more-protection-from-people-in-highsec-or-less/130176/573 "2019-01-13T18:47:04Z")

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goonswarm federation, they masters.

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**Author:** ![Solecist\_Project](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solecist_project/32/479741_2.png) [@Solecist\_Project](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solecist_Project)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2019, 6:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-more-protection-from-people-in-highsec-or-less/130176/574 "2019-01-13T18:49:33Z")

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They’ve both officially and inofficially parted ways long ago due to disagreements in the higher ranks.

Source: Former CODE. alliance executor, former director of KarmaFleet and former high ranking goon member.

Thanks, though. Not your fault you’re not up to date. Of course this doesn’t mean there aren’t goons in CODE., just that the organisatorial ties have been cut.

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**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2019, 6:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-more-protection-from-people-in-highsec-or-less/130176/575 "2019-01-13T18:50:31Z")

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no, but from past experiences, it was quite extensive when I was in the alliance 🙂

> [@Solecist\_Project](#):
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> Thanks, though. Not your fault you’re not up to date.

inb4 reeeeeeee

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**Author:** ![Solecist\_Project](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solecist_project/32/479741_2.png) [@Solecist\_Project](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solecist_Project)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2019, 6:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-more-protection-from-people-in-highsec-or-less/130176/576 "2019-01-13T18:53:31Z")

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Is the New Order wardec branch gone? Just now recalled that was a thing.

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**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2019, 6:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-more-protection-from-people-in-highsec-or-less/130176/577 "2019-01-13T18:56:09Z")

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no, but I don’t think they’re as active as they once were.

I know they do delete citadels lately, quite efficiently too

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2019, 7:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-more-protection-from-people-in-highsec-or-less/130176/578 "2019-01-13T19:30:54Z")

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> [@Anderson\_Geten](#):
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> goonswarm federation, they masters.

Obligatory Grr Goons.  
 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/6/0/60e3b34fb9282df5ae3e26c5ad3a9ab0d2baaf00.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2019, 7:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-more-protection-from-people-in-highsec-or-less/130176/579 "2019-01-13T19:49:39Z")

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You have some issues. There was “goonswarm” but no “grr” in my posts. Do all CODE. member randomly imagine fullshit and then consider it as being anything “real” ? I mean, after dom who just affirmed nobody ever got killed by a gun IRL, you just affirmed random “grr” out of nowhere.

You sure both are salty, to need so much to imagine things because you know you are wrong.  
Let it go, you are bad, your RP sucks, but that means you have potential !

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