# Do you want more protection from people in highsec, or less?

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-more-protection-from-people-in-highsec-or-less/130176>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [December 29, 2018, 11:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-more-protection-from-people-in-highsec-or-less/130176 "2018-12-29T11:45:54Z")\
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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2019, 8:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-more-protection-from-people-in-highsec-or-less/130176/580 "2019-01-13T20:10:30Z")

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> [@Anderson\_Geten](#):
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> You have some issues.

Yes I do, with your lack of a sense of humour.

> There was “goonswarm” but no “grr” in my posts.

It’s a cultural thing, and a meme as old as Goonswarm itself.

> Do all CODE. member randomly imagine fullshit and then consider it as being anything “real” ? I mean, after dom who just affirmed nobody ever got killed by a gun IRL, you just affirmed random “grr” out of nowhere.

lol I’m a member of CODE.? You’re sadly mistaken my dear, nothing could be further from the truth.

> You sure both are salty, to need so much to imagine things because you know you are wrong.  
> Let it go, you are bad, your RP sucks, but that means you have potential !

/shakes head sadly.

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**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2019, 8:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-more-protection-from-people-in-highsec-or-less/130176/581 "2019-01-13T20:15:58Z")

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> [@Anderson\_Geten](#):
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> I mean, after dom who just affirmed nobody ever got killed by a gun IRL

what?

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**Author:** ![Qia\_Kare](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/qia_kare/32/279281_2.png) [@Qia\_Kare](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Qia_Kare)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2019, 8:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-more-protection-from-people-in-highsec-or-less/130176/582 "2019-01-13T20:25:46Z")

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I’m going to go ahead and take credit for being the progenitor of that ‘real life’ tangent when I wrote the following:

> [@Qia\_Kare](#):
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> I think the reaction to blowing up space pixels is disproportionately high or the reaction to people lashing out with bad behavior we certainly would not tolerate in real life is disproportionately low.

I thought my word choice was a little sketchy at the time, but I went ahead with it anyway. It seems self evident to me that blowing up space ships is ‘in game’, and part of the premise, so exempt from real life comparison, while promising violence and pestilence on actual people is ‘out of game’ and subject to real life social guidelines even when you use in game methods to communicate those threats.

At the time, I didn’t think I needed to state that explicitly, but I see now it’ll be less problematic in the future to go ahead and restate that I see a distinction.

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**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2019, 8:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-more-protection-from-people-in-highsec-or-less/130176/583 "2019-01-13T20:38:11Z")

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> [@Dom\_Arkaral](#):
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> what?

You just affirmed it when you said the article I linked was correct.

CCP said nobody (actually less than 1%) of people leaving the game say it is because of harassment.  
The article says this means nobody is leaving the game because of harassment.  
Nobody ever met someone who dies and said it was because he was shot by a gun.  
Following your logic, that means nobody was ever killed by a gun.

You just affirmed nobody was ever killed by a gun.

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**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2019, 8:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-more-protection-from-people-in-highsec-or-less/130176/584 "2019-01-13T20:40:01Z")

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> [@Anderson\_Geten](#):
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> You just affirmed nobody was ever killed by a gun.

I don’t know what drug you’re on right now, but you seem to be putting words into my mouth.

also, since you have nothing of value to post, you should really really stop posting your irrelevant and pretty offensive banter.

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**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2019, 8:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-more-protection-from-people-in-highsec-or-less/130176/585 "2019-01-13T20:42:59Z")

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> [@Dom\_Arkaral](#):
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> what drug you’re on right now

That’s called logic.  
You affirmed that nobody was ever killed by a gun.

I know it’s hard for you to realize how bad that article actually is, but you will get over it. One day. I hope.

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**Author:** ![Solecist\_Project](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solecist_project/32/479741_2.png) [@Solecist\_Project](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solecist_Project)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2019, 8:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-more-protection-from-people-in-highsec-or-less/130176/586 "2019-01-13T20:43:29Z")

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They’re forced to stop when no one responds.

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**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2019, 8:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-more-protection-from-people-in-highsec-or-less/130176/587 "2019-01-13T20:44:44Z")

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agreed @Solecist_Project

try harder @Anderson_Geten, we all know how you roll now, taking everything out of context to your “advantage” 😂  
pitiful

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**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2019, 8:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-more-protection-from-people-in-highsec-or-less/130176/588 "2019-01-13T20:45:37Z")

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finally, you agree that this article is completely wrong. I knew there was some hope for you.  
But I’m surprised. I thought it would take several decades for you to grow mature.

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2019, 8:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-more-protection-from-people-in-highsec-or-less/130176/589 "2019-01-13T20:49:31Z")

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![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/d/7/d7e4060ccd8f953c4fe3216ebf81861d9c40f2ba.gif)

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**Author:** ![Clockwork\_Robot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/clockwork_robot/32/13535_2.png) [@Clockwork\_Robot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Clockwork_Robot)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2019, 8:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-more-protection-from-people-in-highsec-or-less/130176/590 "2019-01-13T20:53:40Z")

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How you gonna “agree” with S.P. and then _immediately_ invite further conversation?

🙄

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**Author:** ![Avaelica\_Kuershin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/avaelica_kuershin/32/478139_2.png) [@Avaelica\_Kuershin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Avaelica_Kuershin)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2019, 8:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-more-protection-from-people-in-highsec-or-less/130176/591 "2019-01-13T20:53:59Z")

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> [@Anderson\_Geten](#):
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> You have some issues.

This hole you’re digging… you need to stop before you fall right into it. Being wrong on a detail is not a crime.

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2019, 8:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-more-protection-from-people-in-highsec-or-less/130176/592 "2019-01-13T20:55:23Z")

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> [@Avaelica\_Kuershin](#):
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> This hole you’re digging… you need to stop

No, no, no.

I have an excavator that will be available for hire tomorrow morning, and Anderson is a potential customer.

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**Author:** ![Clockwork\_Robot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/clockwork_robot/32/13535_2.png) [@Clockwork\_Robot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Clockwork_Robot)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2019, 9:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-more-protection-from-people-in-highsec-or-less/130176/593 "2019-01-13T21:07:48Z")

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In before someone makes a joke about buying a mining permit for that hole.

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**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2019, 9:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-more-protection-from-people-in-highsec-or-less/130176/594 "2019-01-13T21:35:26Z")

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yeah, bring me that escalator !

> [@Avaelica\_Kuershin](#):
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> Being wrong on a detail is not a crime.

Yeah but their tears are delicious.

It’s not about the crime. It’s about them not understanding that this kind of article is full of fallacies, and the only joke here is pretending the author of them is anywhere near serious. But it’s so obvious that it makes the joke fall low, so I’m looking toward that excavator, and I heard it’s tear-fuelled so dom is gonna gimme energy for a decade. Hopefully I can reach their humor level before dom’s tear dry out.

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**Author:** ![Solecist\_Project](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solecist_project/32/479741_2.png) [@Solecist\_Project](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solecist_Project)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2019, 9:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-more-protection-from-people-in-highsec-or-less/130176/595 "2019-01-13T21:50:16Z")

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so you’re just like all those jerkwads who love farming tears and “bully” people?

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**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2019, 9:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-more-protection-from-people-in-highsec-or-less/130176/596 "2019-01-13T21:54:50Z")

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I’m not saying I’m not a jerkwards (whatever this means), but I just can’t help when I see people mixing things up and putting up absurd argument, to show how absurd it is.  
_especially_ when they claim to be tough guys but actually can’t accept when they are shown wrong. Then I ask me to show, on the doll, where the truth did hurt them. It makes those little kiddies feel better, and I am happy, for I followed His way, and in the light of His infinite knowledge I am now bathing.

Hmm, jerkward, maybe.

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**Author:** ![Solecist\_Project](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solecist_project/32/479741_2.png) [@Solecist\_Project](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solecist_Project)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2019, 9:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-more-protection-from-people-in-highsec-or-less/130176/597 "2019-01-13T21:56:13Z")

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His ?

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**Author:** ![Foggy\_Bernstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/foggy_bernstein/32/407887_2.png) [@Foggy\_Bernstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Foggy_Bernstein)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2019, 10:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-more-protection-from-people-in-highsec-or-less/130176/598 "2019-01-13T22:01:16Z")

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> [@Dom\_Arkaral](#):
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> judging by the constant threads about them both here and on reddit, I’d say so

Yeah, but CODE starts most of those threads. I guess that’s one thing they learned from the little bees.

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**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2019, 10:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-more-protection-from-people-in-highsec-or-less/130176/599 "2019-01-13T22:02:38Z")

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For all I care,  
should I say Her ?  
I would not dare  
assume a gender.

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