# Do you want more protection from people in highsec, or less? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [December 29, 2018, 11:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-more-protection-from-people-in-highsec-or-less/130176 "2018-12-29T11:45:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 33
**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2019, 10:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-more-protection-from-people-in-highsec-or-less/130176/661 "2019-01-29T22:54:13Z")
> [@Baron\_Cimetiere](#): > > So I ask can CCP and the CSM do something about it? In some games you get 30 days invulnerability or till you reach a certain level. How about CCP does something like it, There are protections for new players, perhaps a little research. ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2019, 7:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-more-protection-from-people-in-highsec-or-less/130176/662 "2019-01-30T07:50:40Z")
> [@Baron\_Cimetiere](#): > > I started the same year Eve came out and yes I post this using an alt. Coward. ---
**Author:** ![BIade\_Runner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/biade_runner/32/143170_2.png) [@BIade\_Runner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/BIade_Runner)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2019, 8:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-more-protection-from-people-in-highsec-or-less/130176/663 "2019-01-30T08:16:23Z")
Everyone living in high sec are carebears. No exception. The only difference between the carebears dwelling in high sec space (there is also another species who live in null sec) is that some admit who they are, and the others repress their true nature and live in denial 😉 “Is true that we also live in high sec using the safety of stations and the concord protections, but we are not carebears because [insert here some convoluted rationalization] and [some more rationalizations]”. ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2019, 8:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-more-protection-from-people-in-highsec-or-less/130176/664 "2019-01-30T08:50:17Z")
Indeed. People who need to hide the face behind their words have no words worth considering. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2019, 9:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-more-protection-from-people-in-highsec-or-less/130176/665 "2019-01-30T09:34:34Z")
So says a player who talks big while running around in a cheap thrasher. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2019, 1:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-more-protection-from-people-in-highsec-or-less/130176/667 "2019-01-30T13:03:39Z")
Speaking of people being cowards, why did you use an alt to join Spectrum? Too scared of being labeled as a bully? 😂 ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2019, 3:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-more-protection-from-people-in-highsec-or-less/130176/668 "2019-01-30T15:22:45Z")
If the value of your ship defines the value of your … epeen … … then that’s not my problem. ---
**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2019, 3:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-more-protection-from-people-in-highsec-or-less/130176/669 "2019-01-30T15:34:52Z")
> [@Solstice\_Projekt](#): > > Indeed. People who need to hide the face behind their words have no words worth considering. Even if you post on a main you are still anonymous, so it is all ■■■■■■■■ when it comes to alts and mains on the forums. Also I can tell you as a software engineer (30 years experience) from a developer standpoint there are no alts or mains, only customers. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2019, 4:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-more-protection-from-people-in-highsec-or-less/130176/670 "2019-01-30T16:22:24Z")
> [@Dom\_Arkaral](#): > > Speaking of people being cowards, why did you use an alt to join Spectrum? Too scared of being labeled as a bully? 😂 Is that what you do when war decking people, to ask that of me? > [@Solstice\_Projekt](#): > > If the value of your ship defines the value of your … epeen … If only it was so, but it defines the size of your balls. > [@Solstice\_Projekt](#): > > … then that’s not my problem. Which means it is 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2019, 5:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-more-protection-from-people-in-highsec-or-less/130176/671 "2019-01-30T17:30:14Z")
> [@Baron\_Cimetiere](#): > > So I ask can CCP and the CSM do something about it? In some games you get 30 days invulnerability or till you reach a certain level. How about CCP does something like it, It already exists. They call them starter systems and new players cannot be killed or scammed without dire consequences to those that killed them. ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2019, 6:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-more-protection-from-people-in-highsec-or-less/130176/672 "2019-01-30T18:20:30Z")
In general. I once held a suspect noob in a starter system tackled and introduced him to our (former) culture. I explained him what’s going on, why the current situation is hilarious and “forced” him to write a praising forum post in exchange for five million isk. He loved it! This stuff doesn’t happen in any other game. : D ---
**Author:** ![Galaxy\_Pig](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/galaxy_pig/32/374625_2.png) [@Galaxy\_Pig](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Galaxy_Pig)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2019, 7:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-more-protection-from-people-in-highsec-or-less/130176/673 "2019-01-30T19:25:57Z")
> [@BIade\_Runner](#): > > Everyone living in high sec are carebears. No exception. What if you just live there so you can hunt them? So carebears are carebears and also the people who kill carebears are carebears? I feel like the term becomes inexact and unuseful at this point. ---
**Author:** ![Avaelica\_Kuershin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/avaelica_kuershin/32/478139_2.png) [@Avaelica\_Kuershin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Avaelica_Kuershin)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2019, 8:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-more-protection-from-people-in-highsec-or-less/130176/674 "2019-01-30T20:03:00Z")
> [@Galaxy\_Pig](#): > > > [@BIade\_Runner](#): > > > > Everyone living in high sec are carebears. No exception. > > What if you just live there so you can hunt them? > > So carebears are carebears and also the people who kill carebears are carebears? > > I feel like the term becomes inexact and unuseful at this point. Indeed, whether we operate in null, low, high or wormholes, we are all carebears. 💓🐻 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2019, 8:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-more-protection-from-people-in-highsec-or-less/130176/675 "2019-01-30T20:06:54Z")
Some are care(ful)bears ,others are care(less)bears; and then there’s the care(free)bears with AK’s. ---
**Author:** ![March\_rabbit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/march_rabbit/32/453160_2.png) [@March\_rabbit](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/March_rabbit)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2019, 10:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-more-protection-from-people-in-highsec-or-less/130176/676 "2019-01-31T10:13:21Z")
Something-something taking actual risks… 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2019, 10:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-more-protection-from-people-in-highsec-or-less/130176/677 "2019-01-31T10:24:49Z")
Some people are in dire need of “Getting a Life”, I guess. ---
**Author:** ![Clockwork\_Robot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/clockwork_robot/32/13535_2.png) [@Clockwork\_Robot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Clockwork_Robot)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2019, 7:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-more-protection-from-people-in-highsec-or-less/130176/678 "2019-02-02T19:02:14Z")
> [@Baron\_Cimetiere](#): > > At that time players were friendly and helpful Horse manure. ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2019, 8:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-more-protection-from-people-in-highsec-or-less/130176/679 "2019-02-02T20:25:02Z")
Actually this is probably the most accurate part. He’s not really an old player, though. A so old player wouldn’t hide behind an alt. Nowadays most older people are still quite nice after blowing you up, though. We just hate the whiners and due to them being whiners, they tend to be more visible. ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2019, 8:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-more-protection-from-people-in-highsec-or-less/130176/680 "2019-02-02T20:26:53Z")
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**Author:** ![Qia\_Kare](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/qia_kare/32/279281_2.png) [@Qia\_Kare](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Qia_Kare)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2019, 9:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-more-protection-from-people-in-highsec-or-less/130176/681 "2019-02-02T21:41:33Z")
> This is a response to a deleted post by the OP asking an ISD member to remove fraudulent voters from the poll. I think you should leave it as is, with the explanations of what took place and why the results are skewed. Opinions on the topic aside, it does illustrate that some voices are disproportionately louder than others. Awareness of that fact should encourage folks to pay more attention to the speaker’s identity and less to their decibels. To conceal the deception with a correction and leave people ignorant that it occurred would help preserve its effectiveness as a tactic, which I’m sure you don’t want to do. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-more-protection-from-people-in-highsec-or-less/130176.md?page=32) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-more-protection-from-people-in-highsec-or-less/130176.md?page=34)