# Do you want more protection from people in highsec, or less? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [December 29, 2018, 11:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-more-protection-from-people-in-highsec-or-less/130176 "2018-12-29T11:45:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 36
**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2019, 1:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-more-protection-from-people-in-highsec-or-less/130176/724 "2019-02-03T13:10:59Z")
> [@Crimson\_Avalanch](#): > > There needs to be more options to counter ganking. Right now you have to wait until someone’s shooting you and then it’s too late. You’re dead and they will be getting a visit from CONCORD shortly. It’s stupid to say you can’t protect yourself until you’re dead. And cry all they want, but so many changes have actually been made in favor of the ganker. Oh they will say otherwise. That carebear tears forces devs into nerfing ganking, but that’s not really the case. This isn’t true. There are a lot of things you can do to avoid a gank. That’s why red frog have a 99.9% success rate. What A LOT of people do is wait until it’s too late before they try and do anything, and that’s why they feel helpess. Also, can you list the buffs to ganking in say the past 5 years? ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2019, 1:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-more-protection-from-people-in-highsec-or-less/130176/725 "2019-02-03T13:38:52Z")
I prefer honest people being insulting than dishonest people like yourself. 🙂 > [@Aedaxus](#): > > See, such a general blanket statement works both ways. No, actually it doesn’t, because they don’t gank and I do. I also don’t run around making suggestions about things I don’t actually do, unlike them. I’m also not a notorious liar, unlike them. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2019, 1:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-more-protection-from-people-in-highsec-or-less/130176/726 "2019-02-03T13:41:38Z")
> [@Solstice\_Projekt](#): > > I’m also not a notorious liar, You are. That’s why nobody cares about your opinion. ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2019, 1:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-more-protection-from-people-in-highsec-or-less/130176/727 "2019-02-03T13:42:19Z")
Well, our posting history and the replies to it prove me right … … and you wrong … … so … … nothing else needed to be added. 🙂 Have a nice day. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2019, 1:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-more-protection-from-people-in-highsec-or-less/130176/728 "2019-02-03T13:44:35Z")
And that’s why all there is in your posts are insults. Because you know you are wrong, so instead of taking the effort to either argue or accept your error you can only insult people. EVERY time you argument is about the person when the topic is not, it means you are wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Aedaxus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aedaxus/32/393915_2.png) [@Aedaxus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aedaxus)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2019, 1:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-more-protection-from-people-in-highsec-or-less/130176/730 "2019-02-03T13:53:02Z")
> [@Solstice\_Projekt](#): > > I prefer honest people being insulting than dishonest people like yourself. 🙂 The world is not almost filled with dishonest people, it is filled with almost honest people. I suspect that any change in the ganking mechanic involves the ‘gankee’, thus they can freely voice their opinions here, you fellow capsuleer. ---
**Author:** ![Yonna\_Leczarovitz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yonna_leczarovitz/32/218320_2.png) [@Yonna\_Leczarovitz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yonna_Leczarovitz)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2019, 1:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-more-protection-from-people-in-highsec-or-less/130176/731 "2019-02-03T13:57:32Z")
Censured ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2019, 1:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-more-protection-from-people-in-highsec-or-less/130176/732 "2019-02-03T13:59:16Z")
> [@Yonna\_Leczarovitz](#): > > and where’s the fun in that?? Who are you to tell people what is fun and what is not ? ---
**Author:** ![Yonna\_Leczarovitz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yonna_leczarovitz/32/218320_2.png) [@Yonna\_Leczarovitz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yonna_Leczarovitz)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2019, 2:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-more-protection-from-people-in-highsec-or-less/130176/734 "2019-02-03T14:13:47Z")
Censured ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2019, 2:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-more-protection-from-people-in-highsec-or-less/130176/735 "2019-02-03T14:16:50Z")
That was not a question. That was you affirming people can’t find fun if they don’t lose ships. And while I personally agree with you, a lot of people prefer station trading to pew pew. I don’t see no reason to look down on those people. ---
**Author:** ![Avaelica\_Kuershin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/avaelica_kuershin/32/478139_2.png) [@Avaelica\_Kuershin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Avaelica_Kuershin)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2019, 4:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-more-protection-from-people-in-highsec-or-less/130176/736 "2019-02-03T16:58:59Z")
> [@Rivr\_Luzade](#): > > Forcing criminals to use structures as hideouts instead of invulnerable NPC stations is the better way to do it. > [@Daichi\_Yamato](#): > > Also, can you list the buffs to ganking in say the past 5 years? Ironically, using structures with tethers can be seen as a minor buff although it also gives intel to anyone observing. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2019, 5:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-more-protection-from-people-in-highsec-or-less/130176/737 "2019-02-03T17:18:23Z")
I have ganked, stop projecting! ---
**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2019, 5:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-more-protection-from-people-in-highsec-or-less/130176/738 "2019-02-03T17:49:29Z")
> [@Avaelica\_Kuershin](#): > > Ironically, using structures with tethers can be seen as a minor buff although it also gives intel to anyone observing. Even if we were to count that as one, apparently there are ‘so many’. Wondering what ‘so many’ means and how that compares to how many nerfs there have been. ---
**Author:** ![R-0-B-0-C-O-P](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/r-0-b-0-c-o-p/32/474175_2.png) [@R-0-B-0-C-O-P](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/R-0-B-0-C-O-P)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2019, 6:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-more-protection-from-people-in-highsec-or-less/130176/739 "2019-02-03T18:20:57Z")
What good is the intel when it’s attached to a cheap, disposable structure? Even if you were to get rid of it, there’d be another one up before you finish the structure timer. Players with security standing of -2.5 or lower ought to not be able to tether in order to evade Facpo. It’s just another bullet point on the list of things that are wrong with structures. Security status is something that gankers should take into consideration depending on the type of ganking they are doing. Using tether to bypass this aspect of the game isn’t ideal as a whole. ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2019, 6:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-more-protection-from-people-in-highsec-or-less/130176/740 "2019-02-03T18:54:38Z")
I challenge you to a contest. the better ganker wins. - as -5sec or lower only. - who ganks most pods wins. - targets must be above 1.0sec. - you must be the only on the pod’s killmail. - no scouts. - in Urlen, 1.0sec. Structures for staging will be provided and are already on their way You might have been _ganking_ … … but you’re **not** a ganker! Who the hell do you think you are? Accept my challenge or just stop talking, mate! ---
**Author:** ![Avaelica\_Kuershin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/avaelica_kuershin/32/478139_2.png) [@Avaelica\_Kuershin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Avaelica_Kuershin)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2019, 6:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-more-protection-from-people-in-highsec-or-less/130176/741 "2019-02-03T18:58:21Z")
I honestly can’t think of anything else that could be considered a buff to ganking. I was (occasionally) mining when they buffed the barges and remember the freighter buff (which some people stubbornly refuse to use) ---
**Author:** ![Satsuki\_Omega-G](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/satsuki_omega-g/32/153477_2.png) [@Satsuki\_Omega-G](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Satsuki_Omega-G)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2019, 6:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-more-protection-from-people-in-highsec-or-less/130176/742 "2019-02-03T18:59:35Z")
Suicide ganking, as controversial as it may be, is still hilarious. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2019, 7:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-more-protection-from-people-in-highsec-or-less/130176/743 "2019-02-03T19:09:33Z")
> [@Solstice\_Projekt](#): > > Accept my challenge or just stop talking, mate! I challenge YOU ! Don’t post on the forum ! Accept my challenge or just stop talking. ---
**Author:** ![Foggy\_Bernstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/foggy_bernstein/32/407887_2.png) [@Foggy\_Bernstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Foggy_Bernstein)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2019, 7:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-more-protection-from-people-in-highsec-or-less/130176/744 "2019-02-03T19:14:04Z")
> [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > or just stop talking. It’ll never happen. Blathering in this forum is all he has left in his life that has any meaning. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2019, 9:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-more-protection-from-people-in-highsec-or-less/130176/745 "2019-02-03T21:08:40Z")
> [@Solstice\_Projekt](#): > > I challenge you to a contest. > > the better ganker wins. > > - as -5sec or lower only. > - who ganks most pods wins. > - targets must be above 1.0sec. > - you must be the only on the pod’s killmail. > - no scouts. > - in Urlen, 1.0sec. > > Structures for staging will be provided and are already on their way > > You might have been _ganking_ … > … but you’re **not** a ganker! > > Who the hell do you think you are? > Accept my challenge or just stop talking, mate! I have ganked, that is what I said. I have no issues ganking people who I deem to be my enemy in game, simple as that. As for your pathetic little challenge, I have to ask is that how you define a ganker, perhaps you should add to that list ganking people in starter systems while you are at it? [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-more-protection-from-people-in-highsec-or-less/130176.md?page=35) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-more-protection-from-people-in-highsec-or-less/130176.md?page=37)