# Do you want more protection from people in highsec, or less? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [December 29, 2018, 11:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-more-protection-from-people-in-highsec-or-less/130176 "2018-12-29T11:45:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2019, 10:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-more-protection-from-people-in-highsec-or-less/130176/122 "2019-01-03T10:53:41Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > and it is classic forum trolling in that they accuse the person who puts them right of not playing so you put them right and then they accuse you of being elite and boasting and making the discussion about me. We’ll just pretend you and wolfhammer don’t do the exact same thing. ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2019, 10:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-more-protection-from-people-in-highsec-or-less/130176/123 "2019-01-03T10:53:42Z")
If there was enough financial incentive, one or more of the major alliances could shutdown high-sec indefinitely. Null-sec still relies on high-sec for trade and income to some extent, but when that day finally comes… ---
**Author:** ![Foggy\_Bernstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/foggy_bernstein/32/407887_2.png) [@Foggy\_Bernstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Foggy_Bernstein)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2019, 11:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-more-protection-from-people-in-highsec-or-less/130176/124 "2019-01-03T11:15:16Z")
> [@Mevatla\_Vekraspek](#): > > And trust me, the US debate is polite and civil compared to what can happen elsewhere. No. You trust me when I say that from the outside looking in, the U.S. is one of the worst. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2019, 11:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-more-protection-from-people-in-highsec-or-less/130176/125 "2019-01-03T11:19:08Z")
> [@Daichi\_Yamato](#): > > We’ll just pretend you and wolfhammer don’t do the exact same thing. You can pretend what ever you want mate. Some real classics above. So let me repeat it: Make scanning for cargo and fits a suspect offense in hisec, it will create content. ---
**Author:** ![Killer\_Gandry](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/killer_gandry/32/110744_2.png) [@Killer\_Gandry](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Killer_Gandry)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2019, 11:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-more-protection-from-people-in-highsec-or-less/130176/126 "2019-01-03T11:20:01Z")
Been out of game for almost 7 years, so thanks for the advice. But PoS structures I still have to scan down and those also count towards having a structure in space. Also have to check every bloody system for a PoCo. So as it is it’s all in favor of the deccer since they have a laid out playingfield of sorts. So add the locator agent for the nearest structure of the attacking corp. This should only be available for the defending corp and not the attacking one. ---
**Author:** ![Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mevatla_vekraspek/32/377519_2.png) [@Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mevatla_Vekraspek)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2019, 11:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-more-protection-from-people-in-highsec-or-less/130176/127 "2019-01-03T11:20:03Z")
LMAO, no way, i live in Reunion island, a french department in indian ocean and in my region only one elected official has never served jail time. 20 years ago, to be able to vote you needed your ID and your machete. Americans are polite children when it comes to politics. ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2019, 11:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-more-protection-from-people-in-highsec-or-less/130176/128 "2019-01-03T11:26:07Z")
So today do you still need your ID - or just your machete? ---
**Author:** ![Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mevatla_vekraspek/32/377519_2.png) [@Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mevatla_Vekraspek)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2019, 11:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-more-protection-from-people-in-highsec-or-less/130176/129 "2019-01-03T11:27:51Z")
ID only, the last big bad trouble maker passed away 15 years ago. Political fights for independance can be nasty. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2019, 11:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-more-protection-from-people-in-highsec-or-less/130176/130 "2019-01-03T11:33:22Z")
Needs more Danny Trejo. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mevatla_vekraspek/32/377519_2.png) [@Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mevatla_Vekraspek)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2019, 11:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-more-protection-from-people-in-highsec-or-less/130176/131 "2019-01-03T11:35:44Z")
No, normal people are more scary, they kill for real. ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/7/b/7bee2b8fe3880e018d9181c15191beef65046ae2.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2019, 11:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-more-protection-from-people-in-highsec-or-less/130176/132 "2019-01-03T11:40:55Z")
Oh I know, blame a military upbringing for the dark and flippant humour. My old man did time in Northern Ireland and Bosnia, people with a cause or power can be truly evil bastards to each other. ---
**Author:** ![Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mevatla_vekraspek/32/377519_2.png) [@Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mevatla_Vekraspek)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2019, 11:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-more-protection-from-people-in-highsec-or-less/130176/133 "2019-01-03T11:45:40Z")
That’s what i was trying to say to Froggy, US politics are pretty soft, even with all the protests and the nasty tricks and lies. ---
**Author:** ![Balos\_Tritapo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/balos_tritapo/32/89875_2.png) [@Balos\_Tritapo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Balos_Tritapo)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2019, 11:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-more-protection-from-people-in-highsec-or-less/130176/134 "2019-01-03T11:47:57Z")
Well…the military IS responsible for the most dark things that happen in the world… Never see a pacifust kill or torture anybody that does not wear his colors… ---
**Author:** ![Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mevatla_vekraspek/32/377519_2.png) [@Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mevatla_Vekraspek)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2019, 11:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-more-protection-from-people-in-highsec-or-less/130176/135 "2019-01-03T11:49:52Z")
No, armies are just tools. The interest they serve can be corrupted. ---
**Author:** ![Balos\_Tritapo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/balos_tritapo/32/89875_2.png) [@Balos\_Tritapo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Balos_Tritapo)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2019, 11:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-more-protection-from-people-in-highsec-or-less/130176/136 "2019-01-03T11:51:18Z")
Then it would be no problem to get rid of those “tools” so it cannot be misused… ---
**Author:** ![Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mevatla_vekraspek/32/377519_2.png) [@Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mevatla_Vekraspek)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2019, 11:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-more-protection-from-people-in-highsec-or-less/130176/137 "2019-01-03T11:55:07Z")
Go ahead, show us how you disarm entire armies. ---
**Author:** ![Balos\_Tritapo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/balos_tritapo/32/89875_2.png) [@Balos\_Tritapo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Balos_Tritapo)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2019, 12:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-more-protection-from-people-in-highsec-or-less/130176/138 "2019-01-03T12:00:08Z")
If they are not needed they disarm themselves… simply go home 🙂 Same with national states… One central goverment is enough… ---
**Author:** ![Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mevatla_vekraspek/32/377519_2.png) [@Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mevatla_Vekraspek)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2019, 12:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-more-protection-from-people-in-highsec-or-less/130176/139 "2019-01-03T12:05:03Z")
Of course, and they pay their rents and mortgages with government benefits. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2019, 12:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-more-protection-from-people-in-highsec-or-less/130176/140 "2019-01-03T12:05:54Z")
> [@Balos\_Tritapo](#): > > Well…the military IS responsible for the most dark things that happen in the world… Nope, that would be politicians. The military like diplomacy, is a tool of politics. > Never see a pacifust kill or torture anybody that does not wear his colors… Most soldiers hope for peace, because they bear the real costs of war. They do what they do so that you don’t have to. ---
**Author:** ![Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mevatla_vekraspek/32/377519_2.png) [@Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mevatla_Vekraspek)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2019, 12:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-more-protection-from-people-in-highsec-or-less/130176/141 "2019-01-03T12:06:13Z")
Oh, and what do you do with people who disagree with your vision? do you reeducate them or you exterminate them? [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-more-protection-from-people-in-highsec-or-less/130176.md?page=6) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-more-protection-from-people-in-highsec-or-less/130176.md?page=8)