# Do you want to learn how to PvP in EVE? Give the 20 Frigate Plan a try

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**Category:** Warfare & Tactics\
**Tags:** guide\
**Created:** [July 19, 2018, 12:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-to-learn-how-to-pvp-in-eve-give-the-20-frigate-plan-a-try/90653 "2018-07-19T00:52:11Z")\
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**Post date:** [July 19, 2018, 1:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-you-want-to-learn-how-to-pvp-in-eve-give-the-20-frigate-plan-a-try/90653/5 "2018-07-19T13:45:00Z")

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I feel like maybe 10 brawlers, then 10 kiters then 10 neut focused would be the way to go.

I tried with kiting tristans with this and struggled to get positive results. I then went to more of a brawl fit (well… an 8km Tormentor that didn’t need to focus on range much) and it was much easier. when I came back to the Tristan that was easier too.

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