# Doctor Who event

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/doctor-who-event/344252>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [January 4, 2022, 3:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/doctor-who-event/344252 "2022-01-04T15:02:11Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Telvar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/telvar/32/267249_2.png) [@Telvar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Telvar)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2022, 4:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/doctor-who-event/344252/480 "2022-01-05T16:50:20Z")

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so have i, they replaced the devs that hilmar sacked in CCP hq

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**Author:** ![Gadget\_Helmsdottir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gadget_helmsdottir/32/374037_2.png) [@Gadget\_Helmsdottir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gadget_Helmsdottir)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2022, 5:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/doctor-who-event/344252/481 "2022-01-05T17:14:39Z")

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Time traveller.

In _at least_ one episode, we watched the heat death of the universe on screen.

–Gadget isn’t even considering the new multi-verse implications from the Fluxx episodes.

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**Author:** ![Sa\_adi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sa_adi/32/296578_2.png) [@Sa\_adi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sa_adi)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2022, 5:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/doctor-who-event/344252/482 "2022-01-05T17:21:00Z")

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Tardis is clearly a hauler. You ever see how much room is in there? Will be the new meta replacing blockade runners…

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**Author:** ![Gadget\_Helmsdottir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gadget_helmsdottir/32/374037_2.png) [@Gadget\_Helmsdottir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gadget_Helmsdottir)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2022, 5:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/doctor-who-event/344252/483 "2022-01-05T17:22:06Z")

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Some say that Russel T Davies plays EvE, and is likely to be a Goon.

Maybe the Jovians are Time Lords.  
Maybe this will explain why the new Doc will be bald and can plug in to the TARDIS.

–Gadget hears the silliest things

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**Author:** ![Gadget\_Helmsdottir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gadget_helmsdottir/32/374037_2.png) [@Gadget\_Helmsdottir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gadget_Helmsdottir)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2022, 5:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/doctor-who-event/344252/484 "2022-01-05T17:24:05Z")

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So… nowhere to go but up, right?

–Gadget remembers worse times…

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**Author:** ![Mike\_Azariah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mike_azariah/32/512626_2.png) [@Mike\_Azariah](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mike_Azariah)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2022, 5:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/doctor-who-event/344252/485 "2022-01-05T17:24:43Z")

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> [@Aerious](#):
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> What’s next, Captain Kathryn Janeway will be making a appearance followed by the Borg!

Based on past events a fair part of the player base would side with the Borg

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**Author:** ![Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zhalyd_lyehin/32/358574_2.png) [@Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zhalyd_Lyehin)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2022, 5:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/doctor-who-event/344252/487 "2022-01-05T17:28:23Z")

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And in the end it would not matter who you side with anyway because the outcome is already determined and players have no meaningful control over it. Also speaking from past events.

WHOVIANS!

![REDNES](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/9/6/5/96524d53cb22e8d34dff925203908c55729b363e.png)

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2022, 5:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/doctor-who-event/344252/488 "2022-01-05T17:31:22Z")

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A proper scifi story explores how that kind of stuff affects the human condition.

Michael is an infallible wunderkind, so therefore is not a suitable subject.

“The human adventure is just beginning” quoth Motion Picture. Shame it ended with Generations.

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**Author:** ![Roger\_Douglas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/roger_douglas/32/300220_2.png) [@Roger\_Douglas](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Roger_Douglas)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2022, 5:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/doctor-who-event/344252/489 "2022-01-05T17:41:02Z")

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In the world of terrible ideas, this ranks up there.

Maybe blackout was preferable?

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**Author:** ![Nicolas\_Main-Guet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolas_main-guet/32/477312_2.png) [@Nicolas\_Main-Guet](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolas_Main-Guet)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2022, 5:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/doctor-who-event/344252/490 "2022-01-05T17:44:12Z")

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Tardis was always ingame, its called container, bigger inside than outside.

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**Author:** ![Sa\_adi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sa_adi/32/296578_2.png) [@Sa\_adi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sa_adi)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2022, 6:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/doctor-who-event/344252/491 "2022-01-05T18:06:59Z")

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But you are only keeping one property in mind - the Tardis can move through time so you can always just bloop back to a time before a gate camp was there and move through safely and then bloop forward again. So much better than a container 😉

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**Author:** ![Sa\_adi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sa_adi/32/296578_2.png) [@Sa\_adi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sa_adi)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2022, 6:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/doctor-who-event/344252/492 "2022-01-05T18:18:04Z")

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> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#):
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> I don’t know what the problem is

I absolutely believe that you don’t. I won’t trash hisec ganking, knock yourself out. But if that is your game play, it is likely that you don’t know why people with different play styles are annoyed that effort goes into events like this when there are significant issues with multiple playstyles that go unaddressed and have for years. Nobody really cares about this dumb event, but many care that time and effort went into it to the detriment of other long overdue corrections.

I’m glad you guys are excited for this - great. Doesn’t mean that others share your joy or should feel as though they can’t speak their mind.

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**Author:** ![Von\_DeMoreno](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/von_demoreno/32/491525_2.png) [@Von\_DeMoreno](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Von_DeMoreno)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2022, 6:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/doctor-who-event/344252/493 "2022-01-05T18:23:46Z")

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I’m not a Whovian, though I’m not anti-Whovian, either. While this crossover doesn’t really make sense to me because it’s never been established they’re in the same universe, I don’t really care if EVE does a Dr. Who event. It’s not going to end the world or end the game, and if I can get something valuable (in terms of ISK or just “the cool factor”), then okay.

If CCP were to announce that EVE is now a Dr. Who game from this point forward and everything was retconned to fit with the Who lore, _then_ I’d have an issue, only because that’d be like taking the Star Trek franchise and retconning it so it becomes part of the Star Wars franchise. As long as they aren’t doing something that extreme, I’m okay with one-off events like this.

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**Author:** ![Sa\_adi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sa_adi/32/296578_2.png) [@Sa\_adi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sa_adi)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2022, 6:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/doctor-who-event/344252/494 "2022-01-05T18:31:02Z")

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My knee jerk reaction is to agree, but on second thought, I might be ok with this if it meant aborting this NFT nonsense, and end to trash daily login “rewards” and less obnoxious marketing / NES tie in to game. I might actually really like it if it meant more investment for development **as long as it stayed on billboards in game as they are presently configured.** I generally ignore them anyway and have no memory for what i’ve seen on the bill boards in game, lol.

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**Author:** ![Xucca](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xucca/32/373499_2.png) [@Xucca](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xucca)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2022, 6:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/doctor-who-event/344252/496 "2022-01-05T18:43:15Z")

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I have no idea of what this is about. No Dr. Which fan here, sry.

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**Author:** ![Hadrian\_Tobran](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hadrian_tobran/32/373681_2.png) [@Hadrian\_Tobran](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hadrian_Tobran)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2022, 7:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/doctor-who-event/344252/499 "2022-01-05T19:09:34Z")

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Just went to the doctor who sub Reddit to see if anyone there actually looked to start playing Eve. There are already Eve players in the sub telling folks to stay away from Eve because the player base here hates this event and will be toxic. You guys are doing the lord’s work. Keep all new players for this event away and make them as unwelcome as possible. High sec gankers need to pull double shifts.

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**Author:** ![Verlyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/verlyn/32/435163_2.png) [@Verlyn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Verlyn)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2022, 7:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/doctor-who-event/344252/501 "2022-01-05T19:12:04Z")

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> [@Hadrian\_Tobran](#):
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> There are already Eve players in the sub telling folks to stay away from Eve because the player base here hates this event and will be toxic. You guys are doing the lord’s work.

Gee gosh, you think the brainiacs at PA/CCP saw that one coming … ??

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**Author:** ![Aaron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aaron/32/379788_2.png) [@Aaron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aaron)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2022, 7:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/doctor-who-event/344252/511 "2022-01-05T19:22:47Z")

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She’s cute, I want to squeeze her little face cheeks.

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**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2022, 7:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/doctor-who-event/344252/515 "2022-01-05T19:38:25Z")

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> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#):
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> Maybe you’re just not seeing it this way (yet), but these events (and not just _this_ event, but events stretching back to when reward queues became a thing) have the effect of chipping away at player agency, which is in fact why many people are upset.
> 
> Case in point: the outcome of the Triglavian invasion was in large part predetermined. Another example is how the gate to Stain was built without any genuine player input. And there was that mining event a few months ago where CCP pretty much explicitly threatened to punish anyone who interfered with event runners in a PvP manner.
> 
> I would be careful about casting my lot with the makers today just because this specific event doesn’t upset you, because at some point in the future they might have another event, and _that_ one might have some new and improved mechanics in it, such as the inability to attack other players, or the need to buy event-specific items directly from the cash shop, which are good examples of what certain casual demographics _expect_ from their games today.
> 
> The betrayal you’ll feel when that happens will feel much worse than how good poking fun of the people who are upset by the Dr. Who thing feels today.
> 
> There’s a _reason_ we protested CCP’s “$800 jeans” so many years ago, when the ostensibly _rational_ reaction should’ve been to ignore it and just let people buy them if they wanted to, because it’s not really “your business” and you don’t have to “take part if you don’t enjoy it.”

Oh I def know what you mean. Hopefully this show’s peeps we are in fact not alts, considering we do disagree sometime 😃

I’m fully aware that day may come, and when it does, I’ll fly off into the sunset again. No dramatics or post. You’ll just stop seeing me in game and here posting. When UO finally caved to the carebears, I quietly gave away me stuff to the homies, PKed a dude , took a nostalgic run around Yew and then fought as much blood eles as I could until I died and then I logged out for the last time.

> [@Verlyn](#):
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> I dont plan my time as in a “vidya game” in Eve.
> 
> It’s literally quite different to what you would be accustomed to, but I cant expect you to even show a shred of understanding of it. Many here will know what I’m talking about.

ROFL. In one breath you acknowledge I’m a vet and in another try to condescend cause the ground you on is shaky. I definitely understand what you are talking about it. And I know that you don’t actually play EVE the way you think you do. If you did, you would already be calculating how this event could benefit you. Instead you’re crying in the forums 😃

> [@Verlyn](#):
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> “constantly evolving”, that’s an overly vague excuse all companies use to death when its time to justify their BS.

Not really. Its called reality my boy. Again learn to EVE and take a business class kthx.

> [@Verlyn](#):
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> TLJ was a the nonsensical mess and dickcontest response from a narcissistic Johnson about JJ’s, albeit, bland story and direction.

Not really. But then most casual SW fans have no idea how the Force works anyways so

> [@Gragnor](#):
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> It has gone from having its own lore; its own storyline; being one instance, pvp oriented, dark and scary, brutal and treacherous space sandbox to this.
> 
> It is no longer a sanbdbox. Scarcity destroyed any notion of its being a player driven economy. You have destroyed any notion of players controlling what happens in the game wuth your stupid, pointless changes.

I would disagree. Its the players who’ve changed. The fact that there is no treachery anymore as you put it, isn’t on CCP. Its on players who don’t want to risk losing anything.

Scarcity happened literally because people farmed to a crazy point. You also have to reflect on the longevity of the game and the impact of having everyone on one server.

Did CCP create the blue donut?

The chip truth is the majority of the people playing EVE has changed. It isn’t cutt-throat not because CCP nerfed your ore, but that your knife got dull and you can’t be bothered to sharpen it.

The gamall vegur is always there for you bruv. But only you can walk it.

> [@D\_Maniac\_Tryambaka](#):
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> Only way to get into there heads is to unsub. 5 paid accounts unsubbed. Last one expires tomorrow. That’s a substantial amount of money which i could save to go on holiday with. Enjoy your mess CCP, Dev team I hope you will put on your résumé that you drove the largest space MMO into the ground. Well-done

So uh, could I get that _stuff_ or

> [@Devilish\_Ledoux](#):
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> Don’t apologize to that poser. He’s not a vet; he’s an ex-player who was gone for 7 years and only returned 3 months ago. He’s probably not even on an Omega account. He’s just here to troll everything you say. Ignore him.

I did return recently, yes 😃 Oh and I’m def Omega ROFL. I’m not going to grind in game for ISKies just to play. I can easily sub one account and then play for fun 😃 I’m glad you’re paying attention to me tho 😃

> [@Sith\_Gappeq](#):
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> all this crossover stuff is ruining games. check out “magic the gathering”. they are doing fortnite and streetfighter crossovers now and the community hates it. still they are in a better position than CCP is, because they have tenths of million of players (still growing), while EVE is on a declining position since a decade.

I mean hate is a strong word. The DnD set re-printed some cards I thought lost forever so there’s that. You also aren’t forced to buy the new cards if you don’t want to. My play group plays with the only two rules, besides the standard rules of course, no proxies and whatever you willing to pay to play with, you can. It isn’t unusual to see revised dual lands and Tolarians hitting the board. It also makes for interesting card combos.

> [@Aisha\_Katalen](#):
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> He was omega at least 2 weeks ago. Also (and don’t get me wrong I’m not a fan of his posting) he’s not trolling THE forum, he’s trolling YOUR forum.

I am indeed, still Omega 😃 Currently finally learning Amarr frig V, despite hating de lasers.

> [@Cypherous](#):
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> Yeah this was always on the cards after the game essentially went free to play

This. I don’t get why people don’t understand the reality they are living in.

> [@Cypherous](#):
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> EVE is a free to play game now, yes this is the future, enjoy it while it lasts because every game will eventually turn out like this 🙂

Sadly you right. It’s been this way for a while and its going to get worse. Its even seeped into fighting games and the like.

People are confused and think I support this move. Its not that I support or don’t support. I’m a realist. This is what it is now. However, that doesn’t stop you from blapping other players, scamming other players and generally doing bad things to people.

EVE has always been EVE. Its we who have changed.

> [@Jenny\_Hong](#):
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> The same way your mother did.

Eh I give this a 2/10. Honestly your mom stuff is bottom barrel. At least try a little harder 😃 And course my mom touched me? I mean she had to feed me, change me and all of that, hug me and kiss my toesies and such. Did your mom not? Huh. I pity you bruv 😃

> [@Jenny\_Hong](#):
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> DON’T throw that out like a challenge, please! Between CCP and this community there could be some truly abominable responses. I mean “the dumbest thing you can possibly imagine” covers a lot of territory with this crew.

You mean retconning the lore so that we are actually a lost Cylon colony? I approve 😃

> [@Sa\_adi](#):
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> Yes. They have a checklist of game styles they are smacking around. If yours hasn’t been hit yet (or multiple times already), just wait.

Mine has already been hit and hit several times. It and computer failure is what led me to leave the first time. But again, you just have to adapt. And even when I did leave, I def did not cry in the forums or in game LOL.

> [@Jenny\_Hong](#):
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> the political agenda the rainbow represents

Oof. One of those too.

> [@Cilla\_Cybin](#):
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> Dr Who long since ceased to be sci-fi and became a wise-cracking comedy show. I got tired of the wisecracks literally every 10 seconds. It might have worked for Han Solo a few times in Star Wars, but it just got irritating in Dr Who. That level of jokes and puns means they no longer take their own ‘sci-fi’ show seriously.
> 
> Alas…the level of wisecracking has extended even into Lost In Space, Star Trek - Discovery, The Witcher, yada, yada…as if ’ we don’t do scary any more ’ has become the norm and someone has to be doing a joke every 10 seconds to placate the snowflakes.
> 
> At this rate, by the time they do finally release Half Life 3 we’ll be battling Teletubbies and My Little Pony and the end boss will be Mr Bean.

Mm for the Matt Smith era, definitely. I would say you might enjoy Capaldi’s run. Jokes still, but much more dry than Smith.

I also hold the heretical opinion that Capaldi has been the best Dr in recent times.

> [@Nicolas\_Main-Guet](#):
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> Nah, it’s not. It’s actually so bad as a show and so antithetic to what Startrek is supposed to be about I’m honestly astonished anyone could use “good story” and Discovery in the same sentence with a straight face.

DS9 is still my fav TBH.

> [@Aaron](#):
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> So the Sphere Data, it’s origin, and the fact it’s melding with Discovery and evolving isn’t a proper sci-fi story?
> 
> The spore drive?
> 
> The fact they jumped 800 years into the future?

I’m not caught up on New Trek yet, but I’ve heard good things.

> [@Cilla\_Cybin](#):
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> Dr Who became _the_ worst culprit for this. It’s as if they are embarrassed about presenting a scary plot to the snowflakes and have to lighten it up every few minutes with puns and jokes. Star Trek has followed suit.

I do disagree with the retconn of the Time War. Not that I enjoy genocide of course, but it was such an essential part of who the Dr actually is. Honestly, I think the way back is to have them make a similar choice again. To be put in an impossible situation and choose the only slightly less terrible option. They’ve flirted with it in the past, but I think they gotta go full bore now.

> [@Cilla\_Cybin](#):
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> Except that when Michael goes and does all the prior red angel incidents before jumping 800 years into the future…including somehow miraculously rescuing herself…they completely forget that originally the red angel had been revealed to be Michael’s mother. Not even the temporal police can sort that one out. I guess the audience were just not supposed to notice 🙂

Its why I’m generally not a fan of time travel unless strict rules are in place. The thing I do disagree with Who on, is that the rules of Time seem to be becoming bendy, which isn’t good.

> [@Telvar](#):
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> This is honestly rubbish but if we are going down the fortnite route, when are we getting the walking dead crossover

We already got zombies in EVE lore bruv.

> [@Gadget\_Helmsdottir](#):
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> In _at least_ one episode, we watched the heat death of the universe on screen.

That was a good episode.

> [@Mike\_Azariah](#):
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> Based on past events a fair part of the player base would side with the Borg

I mean to be fair, they do have some pretty sweet tech and we are basically almost Borg in game anyways so

> [@Roger\_Douglas](#):
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> Maybe blackout was preferable?

I am fan of blackout for every single sector of space so

> [@Sa\_adi](#):
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> I’m glad you guys are excited for this - great. Doesn’t mean that others share your joy or should feel as though they can’t speak their mind.

You can speak your mind for sure. And also be mined for salt in turn. Welcome to EVE 😃

> [@Verlyn](#):
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> It has long been a fact that Aiko does not care about the game’s health and development and just cares about pewing red boxes in her thrasher.
> 
> Her brain being too small to apprehend complex problems, hence all the ganking.
> 
> It’s ok, we still love her though.

Or she in fact, plays EVE 😃

> [@Hadrian\_Tobran](#):
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> Just went to the doctor who sub Reddit to see if anyone there actually looked to start playing Eve. There are already Eve players in the sub telling folks to stay away from Eve because the player base here hates this event and will be toxic. You guys are doing the lord’s work. Keep all new players for this event away and make them as unwelcome as possible. High sec gankers need to pull double shifts.

Man that’s sad to hear. If corps were smart, they’d mine this event for newbros to swell ranks and get more peeps to play. I guess CCP must be telling those peeps to go over there right? LOL. We do it ourselves and peeps don’t even realize it.

> [@Verlyn](#):
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> Gee gosh, you think the brainiacs at PA/CCP saw that one coming … ??

That the player base would sabotage itself? Unsure but probably.

> [@Nicolas\_Main-Guet](#):
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> And yet, you are the one with the most post in that thread.
> 
> Also, you realize that “us people” aren’t just one person but a collective of individuals, right?  
> You realize that there’s not a single “people” that is doing thos fifty threads, right?
> 
> It hurts my brain that I have to explain that kind of basic concept here of all places.

I wish it was only the one thread. The amount of crying thats been done over the past 2 days is embarassing. Peeps can never say EVE is full of tough villainy scum of the Interwebs ever again. Dr Who literally made you cry your eyes out.

> [@Nicolas\_Main-Guet](#):
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> Also, telling people that have problems with some elements in the product they PAY FOR to just leave is straight up moronic and you should frankly be embarrassed to even type that.

It isn’t tho. Cause the whole point is that its voluntary. No one is forcing you to pay or to play. If you don’t like it, vote with your wallet and go.

For example, I used to play COD pretty regularly until the most recent adoption of the BP system and locking guns behind a paywall. Once that happened, I simply stopped playing. No dramatic posts on their forums or reddit. I simply stopped spending money on a game I no longer enjoyed.

Amazing concept right?

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**Author:** ![Leggone\_Stracks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/leggone_stracks/32/290900_2.png) [@Leggone\_Stracks](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Leggone_Stracks)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2022, 7:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/doctor-who-event/344252/516 "2022-01-05T19:43:37Z")

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At least before Niarja winked out. Sick the Centaurans (sp?) on the Trigs. They would certainly respect each other.

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