# Doctor Who event **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [January 4, 2022, 3:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/doctor-who-event/344252 "2022-01-04T15:02:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 24
**Author:** ![Ricky\_Tock](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ricky_tock/32/297351_2.png) [@Ricky\_Tock](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ricky_Tock)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2022, 7:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/doctor-who-event/344252/518 "2022-01-05T19:48:34Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > > [@Verlyn](#): > > > > Aiko does not care about the game’s health > > Nope, I don’t care. But you _have_ to care deeply about the game you are playing! Why do you not care as deeply as me? That must mean I am more virtuous than you, by merit of how much more I care! ---
**Author:** ![Leggone\_Stracks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/leggone_stracks/32/290900_2.png) [@Leggone\_Stracks](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Leggone_Stracks)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2022, 8:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/doctor-who-event/344252/524 "2022-01-05T20:29:06Z")
So what does one think of buying from folks who don’t take a few minutes to edit and correct their web site? From that Dr Who: Worlds Apart page: “Players much strategically outsmart their opponents by building decks that are able to combat a wide variety of tactics.” Or is English not their first language. ---
**Author:** ![Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zhalyd_lyehin/32/358574_2.png) [@Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zhalyd_Lyehin)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2022, 8:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/doctor-who-event/344252/526 "2022-01-05T20:32:07Z")
The same as from CCP’s announcement: Entertainment value and the knowledge that this is going to go exactly as people predict - down Gix’ throat. WHOVIANS! ![REDNES](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/9/6/5/96524d53cb22e8d34dff925203908c55729b363e.png) ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2022, 8:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/doctor-who-event/344252/528 "2022-01-05T20:34:32Z")
> [@Zhalyd\_Lyehin](#): > > The same as from CCP’s announcement: Entertainment value and the knowledge that this is going to go exactly as people predict - down Gix’ throat. Sorry bro, you ain’t my type 😃 > [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > I’m just excited that I finally get to introduce Dr Who themes into miner ganking. You say they’ve violated the Laws of Time as you blap them. You can also say you know their future as a Time Lord and that in the future they’ve committed terrible crimes, so you are killing them now to save people in the future. ---
**Author:** ![Nicolas\_Main-Guet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolas_main-guet/32/477312_2.png) [@Nicolas\_Main-Guet](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolas_Main-Guet)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2022, 8:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/doctor-who-event/344252/530 "2022-01-05T20:38:48Z")
> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#): > > It is the only thing. You can voice your opinion, but they won’t change it. So either accept it and play, or vote with your wallet. If you hit them where the money hurts, it may change. Crying in the forums won’t do it. Okay, let’s see if that terribad take that I already refuted is just due to you responding before having read my post in its entirety or not. > [@Gix\_Firebrand](#): > > Why would I waste time trying to impact a video game? It became not fun, so I stopped playing. However, there are tons of younger peeps who are still willing to shell out money for skins/BP rewards who don’t care about that. Yup… so it was just a random terribad take that I’ve already refuted… Damn. I’m starting to see a clear trend among the butthurts that spend a lot of time trying to shut down people voicing their opinions on the game. First they are clearly not the sharpest tools in the shed, and second they keep repeating that they don’t want to wast their time… and yet spend an insane amount of time, MORE TIME than anyone else actually, spamming literally meaningless sh!t on the forum. Here’s the bottom line (and I’ll have to repeat myself since reading comprehension doesn’t seem to be your strong suite): 1. The real world isn’t a binary one where you have only the choice to quite or bend over 2. Boycotting doesn’t work. 3. Sharing your feedback (negative or otherwise) on a forum is important to inform the developer and the rest of the community about your feeling on a particular matter. NOBODY outside of very low intelligence people like you think the goal of giving feedback is instant change from the devs. But just because it can’t stop a train that already left the station doesn’t mean it can’t give some clue for the next train on where to go, which leads to my next point 4. How do you expect the devs to know what to change if you literally don’t tell them anything? “huuuur they don’t listen so I don’t say anything and leave”… Great, and now what? The only thing you did is remove a problem from their map, the warning light that showed them something wasn’t working right is not off and only the people that are fine with the state of things are left, which actively push the game further into the wrong path. But as if you weren’t happy enough to help to push the game into the wrong path, you are now also trying to shut down people that do light the warning, thus accelerating the process of pushing the game further and further away into said wrong path. It always amazes me how clueless people like you, who obviously think very highly of themselves, are in reality. You keep trying to tell people what they should and should do and yet clearly don’t know what impacts thos things can have or not. > [@Gix\_Firebrand](#): > > Its the world we live in bruv. And we as gamers helped make it so. Yes, “gamers” like you who just stay silent when a problem arise and then try to silence people pointing out that problem. Sure, you’ve left, good job, you’ve now made sure that a large part of the player population is okay with what’s going on. > [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > whinewhinewhine > > crycrycry This is just getting sad and pathetic ngl. > [@Gix\_Firebrand](#): > > For real. Honestly its just crazy to me how much its made people crazy. Over a simple two week crossover event. But then again people complain about free SP so Nop. The only crazy people are are you, a guy that is literally too stupid for its own good, and that other guy over here who has now devolved into baby speak, you two are literally crazy. The rest of the people here are just doing what a forum is here for, sharing their opinion on what’s going on about the game, and it turns out, the vast majority of player don’t like it, and for some reason that seems to trigger you to no end, which says more about you than them tbh. ---
**Author:** ![Laurens\_en\_Daire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/laurens_en_daire/32/172007_2.png) [@Laurens\_en\_Daire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Laurens_en_Daire)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2022, 8:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/doctor-who-event/344252/534 "2022-01-05T20:56:35Z")
Well, I’ve had a day to mull over how I feel about this, I’ve seen the polarized crying that goes on the r/eve/ subreddit as well as plenty of ‘seriously, it’s why cry over a two week event, you don’t have to interact with it if you don’t want to’. But all in all, I just cannot see this in a positive light. Crossovers do not belong in EVE. It’s a self-contained universe with its own lore, and the focus should always be on that and the stories and experiences created by the personal stories of the players, corps and alliances. Having that overshadowed by a completely different franchise that isn’t even remotely similar in tone to EVE’s lore and visual aesthetics and central themes just does not sit right with me. I know that in game development, projects are undertaken months in advance so it’s not like having this event now is taking away time from rebalancing battleships and dreads, reworking structures and sov as conflict drivers but still, it’s about the message this sends versus showing that you’re actually continuing to make EVE a more interesting universe to be in long term ---
**Author:** ![Laurens\_en\_Daire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/laurens_en_daire/32/172007_2.png) [@Laurens\_en\_Daire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Laurens_en_Daire)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2022, 9:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/doctor-who-event/344252/537 "2022-01-05T21:06:06Z")
Think you might need a new hobby, other than patrolling a thread on a forum and trying to find posts to argue with. I don’t think sending a personal email to a dev would work any better in practice since they would likely get too many to read each one individually, but honestly all i can do for myself is to vent out how i feel to make myself feel like i did something and hope that some kind of a collective voice that I contributed towards could play part in steering EVE to a better future, with people and ships in open, non-instanced space and plenty of big and medium-sized fights happening, not just between massive null blocs but also smaller groups ---
**Author:** ![Leggone\_Stracks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/leggone_stracks/32/290900_2.png) [@Leggone\_Stracks](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Leggone_Stracks)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2022, 9:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/doctor-who-event/344252/538 "2022-01-05T21:12:59Z")
People working for ANY company need to be thoughtful (careful) about how they respond to emails. Many jobs have been lost due to email. ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2022, 9:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/doctor-who-event/344252/539 "2022-01-05T21:52:07Z")
> [@Nicolas\_Main-Guet](#): > > Boycotting doesn’t work. It isn’t a boycott bruv. I simply stopped giving them money cause its no longer fun LOL. > [@Nicolas\_Main-Guet](#): > > First they are clearly not the sharpest tools in the shed, and second they keep repeating that they don’t want to wast their time… and yet spend an insane amount of time, MORE TIME than anyone else actually, spamming literally meaningless sh!t on the forum. Oh no sir, you misunderstand. You are my content 😃 > [@Nicolas\_Main-Guet](#): > > Great, and now what? Find another game to play? ROFL. > [@Nicolas\_Main-Guet](#): > > The only thing you did is remove a problem from their map, the warning light that showed them something wasn’t working right is not off and only the people that are fine with the state of things are left, which actively push the game further into the wrong path. Actually when paying customers leave, its usually a bad sign 😃 > [@Nicolas\_Main-Guet](#): > > It always amazes me how clueless people like you, who obviously think very highly of themselves, are in reality. You keep trying to tell people what they should and should do and yet clearly don’t know what impacts thos things can have or not. Ah the irony. The air is rarefied where you are eh? Only you have secret knowledge huh 😃 > [@Nicolas\_Main-Guet](#): > > Yes, “gamers” like you who just stay silent when a problem arise and then try to silence people pointing out that problem. Sure, you’ve left, good job, you’ve now made sure that a large part of the player population is okay with what’s going on. From the amount of salt produced, its clear the majority of players don’t like it. Further proof that EVE is no longer EVE due to the player base. > [@Nicolas\_Main-Guet](#): > > Nop. The only crazy people are are you, a guy that is literally too stupid for its own good, and that other guy over here who has now devolved into baby speak, you two are literally crazy. > The rest of the people here are just doing what a forum is here for, sharing their opinion on what’s going on about the game, and it turns out, the vast majority of player don’t like it, and for some reason that seems to trigger you to no end, which says more about you than them tbh. We are sharing our opinions? Why is ours less valid than theirs? Interesting that its only less valid cause we don’t agree. Its ok bruv, your gas lighting is 2/10 at best 😃 > [@Verlyn](#): > > You mean, how the Force worked before or after the Sequels ? > > Did Rian Johnson Force Shadow his sperm down your throat ? The Force itself has also gone through several retconns. Ah yes, let the hate flow through you 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Ashterothi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ashterothi/32/459299_2.png) [@Ashterothi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ashterothi)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2022, 10:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/doctor-who-event/344252/548 "2022-01-05T22:29:10Z")
To be clear, neither the Doctor nor the Daleks are coming to New Eden. We are being pulled into their Universe do to _reasons_ on the Doctor Who side. To us it is just a really odd anomaly that happened for three weeks that one time. We bring back artifacts from this place, but nothing beyond just some debris around a spacetime anomaly comes from there to here. ---
**Author:** ![Xuxe\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuxe_xu/32/464660_2.png) [@Xuxe\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuxe_Xu)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2022, 10:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/doctor-who-event/344252/550 "2022-01-05T22:30:13Z")
> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#): > > > [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > > > I’m just excited that I finally get to introduce Dr Who themes into miner ganking. > > You say they’ve violated the Laws of Time as you blap them. You can also say you know their future as a Time Lord and that in the future they’ve committed terrible crimes, so you are killing them now to save people in the future. lol DAGNABBIT! Don’t make me laugh, this is a serious subject! > [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > I am a TIMELORD. You spelled Edgelord wrong. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2022, 10:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/doctor-who-event/344252/551 "2022-01-05T22:30:53Z")
> [@Ashterothi](#): > > To be clear, neither the Doctor nor the Daleks are coming to New Eden. We are being pulled into their Universe do to _reasons_ on the Doctor Who side. To us it is just a really odd anomaly that happened for three weeks that one time. > > We bring back artifacts from this place, but nothing beyond just some debris around a spacetime anomaly comes from there to here. Yep. And people darn losing their minds over a simple crossover event. It is delicious yet as it goes on longer I find it making me pity them. ---
**Author:** ![Ashterothi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ashterothi/32/459299_2.png) [@Ashterothi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ashterothi)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2022, 10:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/doctor-who-event/344252/552 "2022-01-05T22:33:13Z")
I just had a 2 hour interview with CCP Fozzie and Swift. I for one am satisfied that great measure was taken to make this work, and it is neither the first such wink to something in the real world (Toms Shuttle is an example) nor it is really the strangest thing that has happened recently. What this DOES do is confirm the theory that EVE Online exists in a multiverse of shards one of which is likely the EVE Echoes universe that was created by the Caroline Star event. ---
**Author:** ![Nicolas\_Main-Guet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolas_main-guet/32/477312_2.png) [@Nicolas\_Main-Guet](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolas_Main-Guet)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2022, 10:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/doctor-who-event/344252/553 "2022-01-05T22:35:48Z")
Sure, they wont add the Doctor Who character or the Daleks, they are just going to give everyone Doctor Who costumes and maybe even Dalek Ships which will stay in the game forever (well the costumes at least). So it’s okay guys, we won’t have thos things in the games during the 3 weeks, we just have people cosplaying as them in the game, forever. That totally makes it better. Can’t wait when I’ll be able to get a Rick hairdo with a some custom Sharingan eyes to go with my wearing the Doctor Who scarf and Michelle Rodriguez bandana. It’s okay tho guys, there events will only be here for a month max! Did you even played ANY game that has thos kind of limited crossovers that leave behind cosmetics? Anyone with even just a passing knowledge of that kind of stuff could tell you that they just trash the game aesthetic coherence forever. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2022, 10:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/doctor-who-event/344252/554 "2022-01-05T22:36:41Z")
> [@Nicolas\_Main-Guet](#): > > they just trash the game aesthetic coherence forever. god forbid they add a SCARF to eve online that would just RUIN the game forever ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2022, 10:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/doctor-who-event/344252/555 "2022-01-05T22:39:30Z")
> [@Ashterothi](#): > > I just had a 2 hour interview with CCP Fozzie and Swift. I for one am satisfied that great measure was taken to make this work, and it is neither the first such wink to something in the real world (Toms Shuttle is an example) nor it is really the strangest thing that has happened recently. > > What this DOES do is confirm the theory that EVE Online exists in a multiverse of shards one of which is likely the EVE Echoes universe that was created by the Caroline Star event. Exactly. Peeps be crying over something that isn’t even that serious. Its embarrassing frankly. If I was CCP, I’d reduce everyone’s trig standings to -10 for a day and have them invade every single system with fleets at every single celestial. But that’s just me 😃 > [@Nicolas\_Main-Guet](#): > > Sure, they wont add the Doctor Who character or the Daleks, they are just going to give everyone Doctor Who costumes and maybe even Dalek Ships which will stay in the game forever (well the costumes at least). > > So it’s okay guys, we won’t have thos things in the games during the 3 weeks, we just have people cosplaying as them in the game, forever. > > That totally makes it better. > Can’t wait when I’ll be able to get a Rick hairdo with a some custom Sharingan eyes and while wearing the Doctor Who scarf and Michelle Rodriguez bandana. > > It’s okay tho guys, there events will only be here for a month max! > > Did you even played ANY game that has thos kind of limited crossovers that leave behind cosmetics? > Anyone with even just a passing knowledge of that kind of stuff could tell you that they just trash the game aesthetic coherence forever. I doubt it’ll be hulls, its just gonna be skins for existing ships like always. And yea probably clothes. Is a scarf worse than that cringe edgelord mask everyone uses? I’ve never related more to Snope in my life man. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2022, 10:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/doctor-who-event/344252/557 "2022-01-05T22:40:09Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > god forbid they add a SCARF to eve online I wish they’d add a codpiece. ---
**Author:** ![Cade102](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cade102/32/462300_2.png) [@Cade102](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cade102)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2022, 11:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/doctor-who-event/344252/568 "2022-01-05T23:01:53Z")
It’s not that the first EVE crossover event is Dr Who. It’s not that EVE is having crossover events. It’s that this is being done instead of and at the expense of a plethora of long-standing EVE Online core gameplay issues that players and the CSM have been flagging up for YEARS without anything being done to fix them. It’s the exact same level of hubris and arrogance that blew up in their faces 11 years ago during the Summer of Rage. That ended up with World of Darkness being canned, 200 devs losing their jobs and CCP offices around the world being closed. It seems that CCP have forgotten about that and have gone back to taking us all for granted. If the various major issues in EVE Online were being addressed, then nobody would be overly angry at crossovers. They’re harmless fun and decent advertising opportunities. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2022, 11:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/doctor-who-event/344252/569 "2022-01-05T23:07:28Z")
> [@Cade102](#): > > It’s the exact same level of hubris and arrogance that blew up in their faces 11 years ago during the Summer of Rage. The only mistake CCP has made is listening to crybaby whiners, who now feel entitled to throw a tantrum everytime they dislike something. ---
**Author:** ![Nicolas\_Main-Guet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolas_main-guet/32/477312_2.png) [@Nicolas\_Main-Guet](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolas_Main-Guet)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2022, 11:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/doctor-who-event/344252/570 "2022-01-05T23:11:33Z")
TBF, the cancellation of World of Darkness, and Dust, was more about CCP massively overstretching its resources and getting coned into believing in the VR lie, thus sinking even more resources in there to the point where they were heavily in the red, so much so that it’s the main reason why they had to sell out to Pearl Abyss in the end. Speaking of Dust, that’s probably the biggest missed opportunity out there, WoD was never going to succeed, not in the WoW heydays that killed most MMOs at the time anyway, but dust had a legit shot at going somewhere… if it was released on PC. Welp, it’s dead now and we’ll never get it back, plus CCP burned its wing after flying to close to the sun so they’ll probably never get the resources they once had to try again now they they have to feed their new masters (which is probably the reason why they are pulling that awful event in the first place). [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/doctor-who-event/344252.md?page=23) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/doctor-who-event/344252.md?page=25)