# Doctor Who event **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [January 4, 2022, 3:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/doctor-who-event/344252 "2022-01-04T15:02:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 30
**Author:** ![Terminal\_Insanity](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/terminal_insanity/32/383404_2.png) [@Terminal\_Insanity](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Terminal_Insanity)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2022, 1:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/doctor-who-event/344252/736 "2022-01-07T01:02:35Z")
> [@Aaron](#): > > Come on man, it’s a business partnership where both parties felt they have a stronger position working together and featuring on each others platforms. lmao “come on man, just view the advertisements! its good for the corporate bottom line!” ![shareholders](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/6/e/3/6e33e92f2785cadd12098b8c6fb3d1632c2fcab6.png) ---
**Author:** ![Aaron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aaron/32/379788_2.png) [@Aaron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aaron)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2022, 1:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/doctor-who-event/344252/738 "2022-01-07T01:10:55Z")
I think the BBC and CCP can learn from each other, CCP can learn from BBC’s old school ways, and CCP can help BBC come out of their old fashioned ways. ---
**Author:** ![Jin\_Endares](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jin_endares/32/413291_2.png) [@Jin\_Endares](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jin_Endares)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2022, 1:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/doctor-who-event/344252/740 "2022-01-07T01:13:50Z")
> [@Aaron](#): > > Come on man, it’s a business partnership where both parties felt they have a stronger position working together and featuring on each others platforms. From what I heard some CCP Devs say, it was the BBC that approached them for the crossover. Clearly CCP agreed it was a good synergy for both. For BBC they get a boost to their failing series (failing by their own hand, but that’s been beaten to death on the forums already), CCP gets a boost of newer players that hopefully many will stay on long after the event ends. ---
**Author:** ![Terminal\_Insanity](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/terminal_insanity/32/383404_2.png) [@Terminal\_Insanity](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Terminal_Insanity)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2022, 1:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/doctor-who-event/344252/743 "2022-01-07T01:15:26Z")
> [@Jin\_Endares](#): > > Clearly CCP agreed it was a good synergy for both no. they clearly agreed that money is good for their wallets and they don’t give a ■■■■ about the players anymore. If they cared about the players they would have asked them about this first. Instead of taking a wad of money to show us adverts. ---
**Author:** ![Jin\_Endares](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jin_endares/32/413291_2.png) [@Jin\_Endares](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jin_Endares)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2022, 1:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/doctor-who-event/344252/745 "2022-01-07T01:18:54Z")
> [@Terminal\_Insanity](#): > > no. they clearly agreed that money is good for their wallets and they don’t give a ■■■■ about the players anymore. If they cared about the players they would have asked them about this first. Instead of taking a wad of money to show us adverts. Here we go again… The game was created by CCP for profit. Period. Cool idea. New concept. Lots of fun. But was never a social experiment or entitlement. I don’t know what the business models are are MMO RPG’s but they must think there’s profits to be made. Nothing wrong with that. You’re free to leave anytime you’d like. ---
**Author:** ![Terminal\_Insanity](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/terminal_insanity/32/383404_2.png) [@Terminal\_Insanity](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Terminal_Insanity)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2022, 1:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/doctor-who-event/344252/747 "2022-01-07T01:27:25Z")
> [@Jin\_Endares](#): > > The game was created by CCP for profit actually, the game was created by hilmar and a few videogame nerds as a hobby. Thats why eve was so great at the beginning. For nerds, by nerds. But somewhere along the line they began hiring fresh “talent” with certificates, mobile developers, etc. And now we get things like the new skill UI, and Dr Who crossovers. And you can just see this play out in the concurrent player count. [https://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility](https://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility) you can just see the rise and fall. We were averaging 40k players during peak hours. Now we’re lucky to hit 20k. half the player base is gone. And its because of ■■■■ like the blackout, scarcity, skills UI, fozziesov, endless nerfs, etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2022, 1:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/doctor-who-event/344252/748 "2022-01-07T01:30:09Z")
except there was no financial traction either end for this to happen. And delegate zero signed off on it, in regards to the lore aspect, and the ship skins do not look bad. ---
**Author:** ![Terminal\_Insanity](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/terminal_insanity/32/383404_2.png) [@Terminal\_Insanity](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Terminal_Insanity)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2022, 1:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/doctor-who-event/344252/749 "2022-01-07T01:35:09Z")
> [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](#): > > except there was no financial traction either end for this to happen oh really lol ahahahahha If you send me 500 million isk, i’ll contract you this rare, bridge-shaped ship i got ---
**Author:** ![Herzog\_Wolfhammer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/herzog_wolfhammer/32/452132_2.png) [@Herzog\_Wolfhammer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Herzog_Wolfhammer)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2022, 1:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/doctor-who-event/344252/750 "2022-01-07T01:57:57Z")
If there’s a suggestion box later on, I would like to suggest the next breakthrough or crossover to be with Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy. ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2022, 2:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/doctor-who-event/344252/751 "2022-01-07T02:00:53Z")
according to fozzie, something like this won’t happen again for quite a while. ---
**Author:** ![Herzog\_Wolfhammer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/herzog_wolfhammer/32/452132_2.png) [@Herzog\_Wolfhammer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Herzog_Wolfhammer)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2022, 2:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/doctor-who-event/344252/752 "2022-01-07T02:01:39Z")
Recalling what he did to rapid missile launchers, I can believe that. ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Kalus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lord_kalus/32/512583_2.png) [@Lord\_Kalus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lord_Kalus)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2022, 2:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/doctor-who-event/344252/753 "2022-01-07T02:09:44Z")
> [@Aaron](#): > > CCP can learn from BBC’s old school ways, and CCP can help BBC come out of their old fashioned ways. Do you really believe this event will cause either of those effects? Legit question, I am curious. ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2022, 2:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/doctor-who-event/344252/754 "2022-01-07T02:18:45Z")
> [@makrish1](#): > > Lol no. They introduced alpha characters in order to draw players to the game, in order to lower the barrier to entry and hence get more paying customers. It’s not rocket science. It’s the reason why most MMOs have become F2P, but have certain features locked behind paywalls. Literally yes. If you have an alpha account, you still count as an active player, just not subscriber. I’m sure they include you in the numbers. So uh, CCP still wins 😃 > [@makrish1](#): > > It is getting deeply involved with the game and the game environment, which is _also known as_ immersion. You can just as easily immerse yourself in a game for its gameplay, its environment, or its lore, as you can by RPing. I’ve spent hours reading up on WH40K lore, immersing myself in that universe, despite not owning any miniatures or pretending I’m a space marine. I’d still hate it if a faction suddenly found the wreck of a star destroyer by a warp rift. > > It’s like reading a book like the Silmarillion. You immerse yourself for the worldbuilding and the underlying narrative, rather than an attachment to any one character or pretending you’re a character in that book. ROFL. It isn’t bro. That’s lore. Reading up on it is lore. When you say immersion break, its because it breaks the RP you’re trying to do. Sorry bruv. > [@makrish1](#): > > Again, no. It breaks any reasonable action that any faction within EVE would take. Daleks are a genocidal alien race. If capsuleers can get from New Eden to wherever the Daleks are, it stands to reason that the Daleks can travel the other way. If they can, they would invade k-space and attack everything they see, as they’re genocidal. Once the empires realise the threat, they’d band together and some major aspects of gameplay _should_ stop to make sense in-universe, like FW. Once the limited time event was over, would the empires suddenly know and start FW again? Or would they start preparing again, a la Ender’s Game? > > If the goal was new content and gameplay, you could easily have the same by introducing a new CCP-concept alien race, rather than relying on an IP that’s 60 years old. No it doesn’t ROFL, considering we’re going there, not them coming to us. And no, they can’t travel to EVE per the owners of the IP, who control the lore and the canon. No matter what you think can happen, its moot unless CCP says otherwise. So this alternative storyline you are concocting means nothing because it isn’t official. Its basically wattpad fanfic. Man. You try real hard and still end up wrong. And you still quit a game over a scarf. It is _delicous_. > [@Jin\_Endares](#): > > CCP explained that it’s because of some rare new materials and tech you can make filaments to go to Who-space, PLUS, a new and rare natural phenomena that allows this crossing which will end at the event close. > > So it would seem it is a temporary thing… 🙄 > > But…even CCP says this confirms multiverse in the EVE game so who knows what may happen next. As they can as owners of the IP, which can dictate lore and canon. Hell, CCP could retconn everyone tomorrow as being part of the Matrix and New Eden is simply a simulation and there ain’t sweet all you can do about it. > [@Terminal\_Insanity](#): > > The ingame event is an advertisement for a failed franchise. Not even Dr Who fans like Dr Who anymore. > The game is going to be permanently ruined because from now on, this game’s lore is going to be polluted with trash IRL ads. That’s a nice _opinion_ you got there 😃 You seem to be trying to pass it off as fact. > [@Terminal\_Insanity](#): > > **These items will never be removed from the game. You will see them on a daily basis. And they exist for the sole purpose of advertising.** > Bootlickers and sycophants are the reason game companies can get away with abusing the player base. > > Sycophants and Masochists. Natrual Born Bootlickers. Again I feel like you simply toss around jargon without really understanding it. Although if I’m being honest wouldn’t you qualify as a masochist as you seem to be in great pain yet you keep coming back to daddy CCP for more. Interesting 😃 > [@Jin\_Endares](#): > > From what I have heard, there will be some new clothing and skins. Otherwise nothing else will remain after the event. People are literally just throwing tantrums over scarves. Like in a month it’ll be forgotten and I’ll look back on all these cry threads and just _chortle_. > [@Terminal\_Insanity](#): > > same. i just subbed for 4 months, days before this was announced. I feel like its a waste of money because i have zero interest in playing the game after hearing this ■■■■. > > Homeworld was on sale. Playing that, and Gods Will Be Watching. Maybe i’ll do a replay of Icewind Dale after that. I’m just gonna start replaying older games. Let the kids have their turd sandwiches. So CCP ganked your soul and your money. Excellent 😃 > [@Terminal\_Insanity](#): > > Even if i don’t own the skin. Its still going to be listed right there with all the others. I’m going to be reminded of Dr Who every single time i open that skin window up. Who knew a British bloke could trigger people so hard 😃 LOL, imagine being this dude and being traumatized by a fictional character. Holy quafe. I legit like laugh snorted in real life. Thankee 😃 > [@Terminal\_Insanity](#): > > How is it not an ad? the whole purpose of it being there is to advertise Dr Who to eve players. Thats why this is happening. A ship skin not an ad bruv. Please learn advertising kthx. > [@Terminal\_Insanity](#): > > And everyone gets to “enjoy” that advertisement every single time they open their skin window. You realize by your logic the other skins are advertisements by CCP right? So why don’t you cry about those? > [@Terminal\_Insanity](#): > > lolwut? Its the BBC. They’re at the front of the progressive’s civil war. They’re the ones who call everyone racist and sexist if you disagree with them. > > Which, unsurprisingly, is exactly what’s happening in this forum already. The BBC has already infected this game with its woke politics. > > **We’re already being accused of being sexists and racists for not liking the corporate advertisements.** Uh huh. You been taking that lithium or > [@Terminal\_Insanity](#): > > they clearly agreed that money is good for their wallets Imagine a for profit company liking money. Its crazy! > [@Terminal\_Insanity](#): > > blackout, I wish every system had permanent blackout 😃 ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2022, 2:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/doctor-who-event/344252/755 "2022-01-07T02:23:41Z")
While I don’t like the idea of Eve Online doing a crossover event or particularly like the initial subject matter for this event, I can see how it could be tied in with the Eve Universe after viewing the general story-line description for Doctor Who in wikipedia. > _Doctor Who_ depicts the adventures of a Time Lord called the Doctor, an extraterrestrial being who appears to be human. The Doctor explores the universe in a time-traveling space ship called the TARDIS. The TARDIS exterior appears as a blue British police box which was a common sight in Britain in 1963 when the series first aired. With various companions, the Doctor combats foes, works to save civilizations and helps people in need. ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Kalus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lord_kalus/32/512583_2.png) [@Lord\_Kalus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lord_Kalus)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2022, 2:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/doctor-who-event/344252/756 "2022-01-07T02:40:12Z")
EVE has no time lords. EVE has no extraterrestrials. EVE has no time traveling space ships. (TiDi, as a result of heavy combat and with a lack of movement, doesn’t really count) EVE has no police boxes. EVE has no brittain. EVE has no companions in ships. EVE could give a ■■■■ less about civilizations and would rather watch people in need burn alive. I can see how you might think this is a fitting and appropriate match up. ---
**Author:** ![Jin\_Endares](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jin_endares/32/413291_2.png) [@Jin\_Endares](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jin_Endares)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2022, 2:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/doctor-who-event/344252/757 "2022-01-07T02:44:38Z")
> [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#): > > works to save civilizations and helps people in need. That’s the part about the Doctor which has changed and irks fans. The Doctor was never about going around and seeking out injustices to fight, help the needy etc. He was just out having a good time and adventure found him. In fact he upset the apple cart often trying to help (which came back to haunt him in later stories). ---
**Author:** ![Leggone\_Stracks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/leggone_stracks/32/290900_2.png) [@Leggone\_Stracks](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Leggone_Stracks)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2022, 3:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/doctor-who-event/344252/758 "2022-01-07T03:03:07Z")
Yeah. The Whoverse is litterally version 2, after a universe crash and reboot. And for you DBA folks, it had the biggest rollback ever. ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2022, 3:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/doctor-who-event/344252/759 "2022-01-07T03:04:47Z")
> [@Lord\_Kalus](#): > > EVE has no time lords. EVE has no extraterrestrials. EVE has no time traveling space ships. (TiDi, as a result of heavy combat and with a lack of movement, doesn’t really count) EVE has no police boxes. EVE has no brittain. EVE has no companions in ships. EVE could give a ■■■■ less about civilizations and would rather watch people in need burn alive. I can see how you might think this is a fitting and appropriate match up. Good thing it isn’t coming into EVE then 😃 And uh, EVE hasn’t been dangerous in a long time bruv. > [@Leggone\_Stracks](#): > > Yeah. The Whoverse is litterally version 2, after a universe crash and reboot. And for you DBA folks, it had the biggest rollback ever. I am sad about the Time War retconn, because to me the Dr isn’t really the Dr anymore after that. I’m hoping they retconn the retconn 😃 ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2022, 4:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/doctor-who-event/344252/760 "2022-01-07T04:15:08Z")
> [@Lord\_Kalus](#): > > I can see how you might think this is a fitting and appropriate match up. I never said anything like that. I said after reading the wikipedia description of Doctor Who, I can see how it _ **could** _ be tied in with the Eve Universe. * * * > [@Jin\_Endares](#): > > > [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#): > > > > works to save civilizations and helps people in need. > > That’s the part about the Doctor which has changed and irks fans. > > The Doctor was never about going around and seeking out injustices to fight, help the needy etc. He was just out having a good time and adventure found him. In fact he upset the apple cart often trying to help (which came back to haunt him in later stories). Sounds almost like a ‘Q’ from Star Trek… Anyway, I’m not a big Doctor Who fan and was just going by what the wikipedia description stated. * * * However I do wish people would actually read the core content of what I posted: > [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#): > > I don’t like the idea of Eve Online doing a crossover event or particularly like the initial subject matter for this event ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2022, 4:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/doctor-who-event/344252/761 "2022-01-07T04:27:47Z")
Nothing alien etc is going to be injected in the lore aspect per se… Capsuleers won’t know that they encountered aliens, and nothing in game is going to have any names etc from Dr Who. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/doctor-who-event/344252.md?page=29) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/doctor-who-event/344252.md?page=31)