# Does Eve have an "over-fishing" problem?

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/does-eve-have-an-over-fishing-problem/316641>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Tags:** pvp\
**Created:** [June 17, 2021, 8:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/does-eve-have-an-over-fishing-problem/316641 "2021-06-17T20:13:50Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 9:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/does-eve-have-an-over-fishing-problem/316641/101 "2021-06-18T21:12:29Z")

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Maybe. But you probably used some kind of scammy currency to make the fair deals.

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**Author:** ![Snowflake\_Sally](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/snowflake_sally/32/268113_2.png) [@Snowflake\_Sally](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Snowflake_Sally)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 9:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/does-eve-have-an-over-fishing-problem/316641/102 "2021-06-18T21:13:13Z")

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> [@Sol\_epoch](#):
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> You never bought anything in EVE! How you get your assets?

See, you know **nothing** about me or what I buy from whom and what and yet you insulted me as if you knew.  
Feck off.

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**Author:** ![Sol\_epoch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sol_epoch/32/379171_2.png) [@Sol\_epoch](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sol_epoch)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 9:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/does-eve-have-an-over-fishing-problem/316641/103 "2021-06-18T21:15:29Z")

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I seemed to have pressed the truth button with you of which you are trying to hide!

Please show where I insulted you and also show how you got your assets!

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**Author:** ![Snowflake\_Sally](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/snowflake_sally/32/268113_2.png) [@Snowflake\_Sally](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Snowflake_Sally)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 9:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/does-eve-have-an-over-fishing-problem/316641/104 "2021-06-18T21:15:37Z")

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> [@Xeux](#):
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> Maybe. But you probably used some kind of scammy currency to make the fair deals.

Well, I wasn’t going to ask my clients to pay me with potatoes now, was I ?

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**Author:** ![Admiral\_M\_fune](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/admiral_m_fune/32/259253_2.png) [@Admiral\_M\_fune](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Admiral_M_fune)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 9:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/does-eve-have-an-over-fishing-problem/316641/105 "2021-06-18T21:22:33Z")

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> [@Snowflake\_Sally](#):
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> Well, I wasn’t going to ask my clients to pay me with potatoes now, was I ?

I can pay you with ships and modules 😜 How many ships&modules would I need to buy a house from you?

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**Author:** ![Snowflake\_Sally](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/snowflake_sally/32/268113_2.png) [@Snowflake\_Sally](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Snowflake_Sally)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 9:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/does-eve-have-an-over-fishing-problem/316641/106 "2021-06-18T21:29:00Z")

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I’m sure the bank cares very little about ships, modules or EVE for that matter.  
I have a three bedroom right now, in the Ardennes going for €170K. You do the math, I’m off work for the weekend and I’d be damned to work for free on my days off 😜

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**Author:** ![Sol\_epoch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sol_epoch/32/379171_2.png) [@Sol\_epoch](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sol_epoch)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 9:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/does-eve-have-an-over-fishing-problem/316641/107 "2021-06-18T21:30:44Z")

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For 170 euro I will buy it!  
Three beds is very small though but will do for a short trip!

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**Author:** ![Sol\_epoch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sol_epoch/32/379171_2.png) [@Sol\_epoch](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sol_epoch)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 9:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/does-eve-have-an-over-fishing-problem/316641/108 "2021-06-18T21:32:19Z")

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Ahh! “K” added as an edit lol

Still cheap lol

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**Author:** ![Admiral\_M\_fune](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/admiral_m_fune/32/259253_2.png) [@Admiral\_M\_fune](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Admiral_M_fune)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 9:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/does-eve-have-an-over-fishing-problem/316641/109 "2021-06-18T21:41:14Z")

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> [@Snowflake\_Sally](#):
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> I have a three bedroom right now, in the Ardennes going for €170K. You do the math

I’m lousy at Maths. I’m only good enough to count the change I get back from the store, lmao.  
Three bedrooms is too big for me. It’s just me and a dog. Is it close to Bastogne? I know a guy who dreams of living there.

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**Author:** ![Snowflake\_Sally](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/snowflake_sally/32/268113_2.png) [@Snowflake\_Sally](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Snowflake_Sally)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 9:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/does-eve-have-an-over-fishing-problem/316641/110 "2021-06-18T21:51:03Z")

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> [@Ivanka\_Omanid](#):
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> And with the scarcity, there will be very hard to replace the losses.

That’s why I fly cheapass ships with cheapass modules. I don’t care if I get hunted down in a POS Ship, their loot would be crap and I can make it up in a few days. Meanwhile, they can’t be hunting me 24/7 so I’m still making a profit when their backs are turned.

> [@Admiral\_M\_fune](#):
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> Is it close to Bastogne? I know a guy who dreams of living there.

Round 40min ride. Why does he dream of living there?

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**Author:** ![Admiral\_M\_fune](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/admiral_m_fune/32/259253_2.png) [@Admiral\_M\_fune](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Admiral_M_fune)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 9:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/does-eve-have-an-over-fishing-problem/316641/111 "2021-06-18T21:54:53Z")

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He’s a WWII reenactment nut.

Are you ready for a Catalyst with t2 modules?

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**Author:** ![Fale\_Einn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fale_einn/32/477432_2.png) [@Fale\_Einn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Fale_Einn)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 9:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/does-eve-have-an-over-fishing-problem/316641/112 "2021-06-18T21:56:31Z")

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None for you till you kill me

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**Author:** ![Snowflake\_Sally](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/snowflake_sally/32/268113_2.png) [@Snowflake\_Sally](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Snowflake_Sally)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 9:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/does-eve-have-an-over-fishing-problem/316641/113 "2021-06-18T21:58:23Z")

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> [@Admiral\_M\_fune](#):
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> Are you ready for a Catalyst with t2 modules?

The ship yes, the modules maybe. But that ship will not live long and prosper with me. Or is it for the PvP training?

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**Author:** ![Admiral\_M\_fune](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/admiral_m_fune/32/259253_2.png) [@Admiral\_M\_fune](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Admiral_M_fune)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 10:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/does-eve-have-an-over-fishing-problem/316641/114 "2021-06-18T22:02:43Z")

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> [@Snowflake\_Sally](#):
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> Or is it for the PvP training?

Yes, for that. I don’t want to let Han pay for everything and I have 6 Catalysts so I’m thinking we can use them for that.

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**Author:** ![Fale\_Einn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fale_einn/32/477432_2.png) [@Fale\_Einn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Fale_Einn)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 10:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/does-eve-have-an-over-fishing-problem/316641/115 "2021-06-18T22:16:41Z")

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> [@Mkikaden\_Tiragen](#):
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> You are allowed to use your own buddy invite to roll new characters with the bonus SP.

The best thing about me is that there are going to be so many of me.

- Smith

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**Author:** ![Jesoph\_Swolin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jesoph_swolin/32/383423_2.png) [@Jesoph\_Swolin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jesoph_Swolin)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 10:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/does-eve-have-an-over-fishing-problem/316641/116 "2021-06-18T22:29:08Z")

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> [@Ivanka\_Omanid](#):
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> In every other game, you can PVP the whole day without major consequences. Other games like Albion you have something similar to breeding grounds , where you can farm “safely” after commit to a full lose (Red and Black) zone. And if you take a loss you can always return farm a little and back to the action, therefore providing and a steady stream of prays for the hunters.
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> But EvE is much diferent when you take a loss that is very hard to recover, A Hunter can kill an explorer, said explorer needs a lot of time to recover from the that lost (especially new ones), In Eve every loss is definitive.

I would argue that there are forms of PVP in EVE that are perfectly sustainable. Point in case, [Faction Wars](https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Faction_warfare). This is because 80% of all things there are done by frigates, 10% by destroyers and the remaining 10% by other things™.

I have also made it my mission to educate the newbros I encounter, and [to prove to them that one can get dank killmails with just T1 hulls](https://zkillboard.com/character/2116386342/), T2/meta modules and T1 rigs. On average the frigates I undock cost somewhere between 5 and 10 million. By EVE standards that is cheap.

The LP one gets from kills and the complexes (which I prefer to view as a romantic PVP dinner table set for two) is more than sufficient to cover the losses. It’d probably be worth more if CCP didn’t allow those terrible bots to run the weird PVE missions that pay out the same LP, though.

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**Author:** ![Fale\_Einn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fale_einn/32/477432_2.png) [@Fale\_Einn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Fale_Einn)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2021, 12:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/does-eve-have-an-over-fishing-problem/316641/117 "2021-06-19T00:09:55Z")

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Nah, if that were the case they wouldn’t let you send them to your own email address. Or, maybe they like entrapment and make it easy to get your self in trouble. I’m kidding, I asked about this once in Rookie help and one of the ISD people said it was not a problem.

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**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2021, 8:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/does-eve-have-an-over-fishing-problem/316641/118 "2021-06-19T08:23:51Z")

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So beefy and yet I still hide mine away.

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**Author:** ![Long\_Tall\_Sallie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/long_tall_sallie/32/265995_2.png) [@Long\_Tall\_Sallie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Long_Tall_Sallie)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2021, 8:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/does-eve-have-an-over-fishing-problem/316641/119 "2021-06-19T08:44:01Z")

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> [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#):
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> So beefy and yet I still hide mine away.

What’s beefy?  
What is it you hide away?

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**Author:** ![Qia\_Kare](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/qia_kare/32/279281_2.png) [@Qia\_Kare](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Qia_Kare)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2021, 8:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/does-eve-have-an-over-fishing-problem/316641/120 "2021-06-19T08:51:27Z")

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He’s talking about his Orca, which is named Maggie.

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> > [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#):
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> > Does caring for my (_Maggie_) Orca’s wellbeing enough to be carebear eligible and potentially be considered whining?
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> > [@Karak\_Terrel](#):
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> > I personally don’t have the firepower to take down an Orca with a suicide gank. They are quite chewy, even when fighting them with other mechanics.
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> > [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#):
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> > So beefy and yet I still hide mine away.

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