# Drifters vs Capsuleer's news as 10?

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drifters-vs-capsuleers-news-as-10/169971>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [June 26, 2019, 9:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drifters-vs-capsuleers-news-as-10/169971 "2019-06-26T21:51:13Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2019, 8:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drifters-vs-capsuleers-news-as-10/169971/324 "2019-07-01T20:12:46Z")

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> [@darkestkhan\_Eriker](#):
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> Even Olmecca? I find it hard to believe…

I don’t think the new CSM is in place yet. There is a handover period due to the need to have the NDA signed, etc.

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**Author:** ![darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darkestkhan_eriker/32/390091_2.png) [@darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/darkestkhan_Eriker)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2019, 8:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drifters-vs-capsuleers-news-as-10/169971/325 "2019-07-01T20:18:40Z")

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> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> Do you have crystal balls?

I do. TED - Temporal Estimation Device. We use it at work to foresee software requirements before users know what they want.

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**Author:** ![Wavemistress\_Moidel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wavemistress_moidel/32/211447_2.png) [@Wavemistress\_Moidel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wavemistress_Moidel)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2019, 8:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drifters-vs-capsuleers-news-as-10/169971/326 "2019-07-01T20:25:45Z")

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According to Aryth on the Meta show wow edition and i quote “The entire CSM is against this” .

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2019, 8:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drifters-vs-capsuleers-news-as-10/169971/327 "2019-07-01T20:26:37Z")

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Politicians out of touch with the public mood?

Only in a game eh!

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**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2019, 8:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drifters-vs-capsuleers-news-as-10/169971/328 "2019-07-01T20:28:46Z")

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> [@Wavemistress\_Moidel](#):
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> High-sec is way more dangerous than what you nullies call home.

That’s an interesting belief. Common, but just not really supported by CCP’s data on losses, especially since the wardec changes.

There’s 1212 highsec systems and 1202 of them present less risk than new players face against NPCs in the rookie and career agent systems.

Grabbing the summary from Dotlan from the ESI data:

![highsec](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/b/8/b85381ebb8fecaa96a23d58030aa27e87785051c.png)

The second most violent system in highsec is a Caldari career agent system, where the losses are nearly all, new players dying to NPCs. Same for #4, which is a Gallente career agent system. Same for #7, #8, #9 and #10, which are also all career agent systems (Caldari, Amarr, Gallente and Caldari respectively).

Six of the top 10 systems in highsec for ship loss are from new players losing ships to NPCs.

Of the remaining 4, Ambeke is dominated by losses to Triglavians, leaving just 3 systems of the top 10 where other players present risk. If you stay away from Jita and Perimeter, you elminate most of the risk all together.

So new players face more risk from NPCs in their first few days in game, than nearly all of the rest of highsec players face on a daily basis.

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**Author:** ![darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darkestkhan_eriker/32/390091_2.png) [@darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/darkestkhan_Eriker)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2019, 8:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drifters-vs-capsuleers-news-as-10/169971/329 "2019-07-01T20:47:21Z")

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I wouldn’t take this from a goon at a face value…

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**Author:** ![Maekchu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/maekchu/32/178692_2.png) [@Maekchu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Maekchu)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2019, 8:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drifters-vs-capsuleers-news-as-10/169971/330 "2019-07-01T20:47:44Z")

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Don’t you come in here with your facts and data to _General Discussion_.

Do you think we are trying to have a rational discussion going here? I just want my biases confirmed by others!

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**Author:** ![Emiko\_P\_eng](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/emiko_p_eng/32/243920_2.png) [@Emiko\_P\_eng](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Emiko_P_eng)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2019, 8:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drifters-vs-capsuleers-news-as-10/169971/331 "2019-07-01T20:47:55Z")

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Hehe!  
So Mittani’s lapdogs have started yapping 😃

Oh!  
Lovely more Salty Tears, from the bot brigade 😃

This is the best thing to happen in EVE in YEARS 😋

Keep it up CCP, Definitely keep going 🤣

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2019, 6:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drifters-vs-capsuleers-news-as-10/169971/332 "2019-07-02T06:01:06Z")

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But you did not make any comment about Niarja did you? 😛

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**Author:** ![Lily\_Inkura](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lily_inkura/32/174143_2.png) [@Lily\_Inkura](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lily_Inkura)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2019, 6:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drifters-vs-capsuleers-news-as-10/169971/333 "2019-07-02T06:34:59Z")

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> [@Emiko\_P\_eng](#):
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> Mittani’s lapdogs have started yapping 😃
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> Lovely more Salty Tears, from the bot brigade 😃
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> This is the best thing to happen in EVE in YEARS 😋
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> Keep it up CCP, Definitely keep going 🤣

OK. A question to no-one in particular. The above is a not-particularly subtle post. But why on earth was it flagged?

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**Author:** ![Dravick\_Afterthought](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dravick_afterthought/32/282017_2.png) [@Dravick\_Afterthought](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dravick_Afterthought)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2019, 6:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drifters-vs-capsuleers-news-as-10/169971/334 "2019-07-02T06:44:17Z")

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Some Mittani-lover is going round flagging non-hagiographic posts containing his name - happened to me on another thread.

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**Author:** ![Abruzzi\_Oskold](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/abruzzi_oskold/32/279259_2.png) [@Abruzzi\_Oskold](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Abruzzi_Oskold)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2019, 6:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drifters-vs-capsuleers-news-as-10/169971/335 "2019-07-02T06:54:22Z")

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That’s the only way they can apply their same information filtering they do on “other” forums.

By the time it is un-flagged, the thread has moved on and far less will see it than if they didn’t abuse the flagging system.

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2019, 6:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drifters-vs-capsuleers-news-as-10/169971/336 "2019-07-02T06:58:54Z")

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I make sure to read all flagged posts.

I would think some poor tender little hello kitty fan flagged that post.

I have some CODE players following me around flagging my posts because I blocked them, it is a strangled cry for attention which I find highly amusing and pathetic.

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**Author:** ![Foggy\_Bernstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/foggy_bernstein/32/407887_2.png) [@Foggy\_Bernstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Foggy_Bernstein)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2019, 7:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drifters-vs-capsuleers-news-as-10/169971/337 "2019-07-02T07:01:40Z")

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> [@Dravick\_Afterthought](#):
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> hagiographic

Not often I’m stumped by one my fellow forumites. I had to look that one up.

> [@Abruzzi\_Oskold](#):
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> By the time it is un-flagged, the thread has moved on and far less will see it than if they didn’t abuse the flagging system.

Dude? You telling me you don’t click on every grayed out post?

> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> I make sure to read all flagged posts.

As do most here, I’m sure.

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**Author:** ![Abruzzi\_Oskold](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/abruzzi_oskold/32/279259_2.png) [@Abruzzi\_Oskold](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Abruzzi_Oskold)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2019, 7:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drifters-vs-capsuleers-news-as-10/169971/338 "2019-07-02T07:09:50Z")

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> [@Foggy\_Bernstein](#):
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> As do most here, I’m sure.

I think you may be assuming too much.

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**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2019, 7:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drifters-vs-capsuleers-news-as-10/169971/339 "2019-07-02T07:24:02Z")

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> [@Foggy\_Bernstein](#):
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> As do most here, I’m sure.

I usually find those the most entertaining, if a little unhinged at times.

Unfortunately the new flagging system is still being used for forum PVP, though it seems to be settling down a bit.

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**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2019, 7:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drifters-vs-capsuleers-news-as-10/169971/341 "2019-07-02T07:26:45Z")

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> [@Lily\_Inkura](#):
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> OK. A question to no-one in particular. The above is a not-particularly subtle post. But why on earth was it flagged?

Maybe because calling people dogs is an insult ?  
That’s a reason why I would flag it if it wasn’t already.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2019, 7:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drifters-vs-capsuleers-news-as-10/169971/342 "2019-07-02T07:28:48Z")

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> [@Anderson\_Geten](#):
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> calling people dogs is an insult

Mostly to dogs

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**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2019, 7:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drifters-vs-capsuleers-news-as-10/169971/343 "2019-07-02T07:29:40Z")

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especially when people say they follow a mitten.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2019, 7:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drifters-vs-capsuleers-news-as-10/169971/344 "2019-07-02T07:30:10Z")

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Maybe they meant kitten.

That would be adorable.

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