# Drifters vs Capsuleer's news as 10?

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**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [June 26, 2019, 9:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drifters-vs-capsuleers-news-as-10/169971 "2019-06-26T21:51:13Z")\
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**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2019, 10:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drifters-vs-capsuleers-news-as-10/169971/142 "2019-06-28T10:54:00Z")

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> [@Niriam\_DoT](#):
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> Amarr and other hubs have seen their part of trig bashing , I believe

Do yo have a proof of that ?

Amarr, Dodixie, Jita, Rens are the only systems in HS that are not anchorable in the game files. That means that you can’t anchor a citadel in them, but also _may_ mean this status is used to prevent event from happening in them.

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**Author:** ![Niriam\_DoT](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/niriam_dot/32/283318_2.png) [@Niriam\_DoT](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Niriam_DoT)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2019, 10:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drifters-vs-capsuleers-news-as-10/169971/143 "2019-06-28T10:56:54Z")

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I know as a fact, that Jita can’t have wormholes open there, but Amarr can, so I’m not that sure about the uniformity of that status between theses systems. To my knowledge Jita is one and unique, other hubs don’t have it’s privileges

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**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2019, 11:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drifters-vs-capsuleers-news-as-10/169971/144 "2019-06-28T11:06:29Z")

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maybe it’s not “can’t” but “so little probability that we’ll never see it”.

and maybe the probability is not linked to the system, but to geography statistics … Just saying.

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**Author:** ![Niriam\_DoT](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/niriam_dot/32/283318_2.png) [@Niriam\_DoT](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Niriam_DoT)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2019, 11:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drifters-vs-capsuleers-news-as-10/169971/145 "2019-06-28T11:18:42Z")

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That would be some weird statistics , as we regularly have seen Perimeter and New Caldari as well as Amarr as entries to the WH chain, but not a single time Jita has been seen. It is actually quite regular thing to have some WH open around 2 to 4 jumps from Jita.  
I don’t have the link unfortunately, but AFAIK it was confirmed officially by CCP, that Jita can’t have wormholes

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**Author:** ![Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zhalyd_lyehin/32/358574_2.png) [@Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zhalyd_Lyehin)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2019, 12:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drifters-vs-capsuleers-news-as-10/169971/146 "2019-06-28T12:01:38Z")

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One thing I find funny: Just a few years ago people were outraged when other people suggested that NPC should take care of capsuleer business/tasks like destroying structures/ships and so on. And now people cheer like crazy that drifters and triglavians and normal pirates do just that – that NPC create the content actual players were supposed to in the past. It is bonkers how mindless people are. 😇

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2019, 12:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drifters-vs-capsuleers-news-as-10/169971/147 "2019-06-28T12:05:34Z")

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Its almost like different people have different opinions.

Amazing.

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**Author:** ![Niriam\_DoT](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/niriam_dot/32/283318_2.png) [@Niriam\_DoT](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Niriam_DoT)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2019, 12:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drifters-vs-capsuleers-news-as-10/169971/148 "2019-06-28T12:06:47Z")

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Cheers for speaking about “people” as a unified entity , smart move there!

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**Author:** ![Vol\_Arm\_OOO](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vol_arm_ooo/32/213741_2.png) [@Vol\_Arm\_OOO](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vol_Arm_OOO)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2019, 1:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drifters-vs-capsuleers-news-as-10/169971/149 "2019-06-28T13:15:29Z")

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yes its a player based sandbox game - forcing people to pve is anti-sandbox

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**Author:** ![Vol\_Arm\_OOO](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vol_arm_ooo/32/213741_2.png) [@Vol\_Arm\_OOO](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vol_Arm_OOO)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2019, 1:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drifters-vs-capsuleers-news-as-10/169971/150 "2019-06-28T13:20:43Z")

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> [@Zhalyd\_Lyehin](#):
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> One thing I find funny: Just a few years ago people were outraged when other people suggested that NPC should take care of capsuleer business/tasks like destroying structures/ships and so on. And now people cheer like crazy that drifters and triglavians and normal pirates do just that – that NPC create the content actual players were supposed to in the past. It is bonkers how mindless people are.

CCP created terrible content with the citadels - they thought people would bash them all the time. But unfortunately it is boring, unrewarding tedious content. So rather then fix it to encourage player action, ccp spins up bots to do the job.

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**Author:** ![Tygg\_Essex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tygg_essex/32/135949_2.png) [@Tygg\_Essex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tygg_Essex)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2019, 2:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drifters-vs-capsuleers-news-as-10/169971/151 "2019-06-28T14:22:10Z")

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I never understood what was so impressive about refusing to engage with the “PVE” content created for a “game” that you choose to play. Like “Oh no, if I do any PVE, the PVP gods will disown me.”

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**Author:** ![Zambusi\_Omatu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zambusi_omatu/32/208809_2.png) [@Zambusi\_Omatu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zambusi_Omatu)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2019, 3:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drifters-vs-capsuleers-news-as-10/169971/152 "2019-06-28T15:19:34Z")

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Man, I just wish CPP would’ve gave us a heads up on this. We all knew the Triglavians were coming…but this…with the Drifters suprise attacks showing up unannounced…this is madness.

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**Author:** ![Yonna\_Leczarovitz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yonna_leczarovitz/32/218320_2.png) [@Yonna\_Leczarovitz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yonna_Leczarovitz)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2019, 3:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drifters-vs-capsuleers-news-as-10/169971/153 "2019-06-28T15:40:49Z")

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Censured

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**Author:** ![Vol\_Arm\_OOO](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vol_arm_ooo/32/213741_2.png) [@Vol\_Arm\_OOO](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vol_Arm_OOO)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2019, 3:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drifters-vs-capsuleers-news-as-10/169971/154 "2019-06-28T15:42:52Z")

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> [@Tygg\_Essex](#):
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> I never understood what was so impressive about refusing to engage with the “PVE” content created for a “game” that you choose to play. Like “Oh no, if I do any PVE, the PVP gods will disown me.”

For me that’s an easy question to answer - the pve is awful boring grindy nonsense that has no meaning in a game which is all about actual consequences.

And I don’t care that some random rat can kill my blingy ship if I get a bad role - that is not consequences - just bad luck. I came to eve to shoot players not rats. If I’m going to die it’s going to be to other players not some random rat that rolled lucky.

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**Author:** ![Max\_Deveron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/max_deveron/32/245870_2.png) [@Max\_Deveron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Max_Deveron)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2019, 3:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drifters-vs-capsuleers-news-as-10/169971/155 "2019-06-28T15:44:02Z")

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Well its not a bug…

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**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2019, 4:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drifters-vs-capsuleers-news-as-10/169971/156 "2019-06-28T16:20:51Z")

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I know you have read the new player FAQ, why do you intentionally lie? To deceive others?

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**Author:** ![Black\_Ambulance](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/black_ambulance/32/48290_2.png) [@Black\_Ambulance](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Black_Ambulance)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2019, 4:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drifters-vs-capsuleers-news-as-10/169971/157 "2019-06-28T16:32:20Z")

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May we have a small fleet of drifters , I guess 20 should be fine in Jita on 4-4 undock ? ty

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**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2019, 4:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drifters-vs-capsuleers-news-as-10/169971/158 "2019-06-28T16:41:10Z")

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Why? What would that do?

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**Author:** ![Black\_Ambulance](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/black_ambulance/32/48290_2.png) [@Black\_Ambulance](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Black_Ambulance)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2019, 4:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drifters-vs-capsuleers-news-as-10/169971/159 "2019-06-28T16:45:15Z")

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A cleanup 😃

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**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2019, 4:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drifters-vs-capsuleers-news-as-10/169971/160 "2019-06-28T16:47:07Z")

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Of what?

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**Author:** ![Terak\_Romaller](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/terak_romaller/32/374271_2.png) [@Terak\_Romaller](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Terak_Romaller)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2019, 4:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drifters-vs-capsuleers-news-as-10/169971/161 "2019-06-28T16:56:58Z")

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Is it me or is there something ironic in “I can’t go safely ratting NPCs because of all these NPC’s attacking me”?

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