# Drone ship pve in highsec l4 not viable anymore.. fix suggestion included **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [August 6, 2020, 6:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drone-ship-pve-in-highsec-l4-not-viable-anymore-fix-suggestion-included/258932 "2020-08-06T06:50:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2020, 4:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drone-ship-pve-in-highsec-l4-not-viable-anymore-fix-suggestion-included/258932/182 "2020-08-10T16:33:29Z")
> [@PI01\_Wanga](#): > > give me a reason why it’s viable for turret and missile build to brawl with their short range weapon but not drone? You can. But like other brawlers, it’s gonna take more effort and time. ---
**Author:** ![Mortlake](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mortlake/32/510240_2.png) [@Mortlake](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mortlake)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2020, 4:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drone-ship-pve-in-highsec-l4-not-viable-anymore-fix-suggestion-included/258932/183 "2020-08-10T16:34:45Z")
> [@PI01\_Wanga](#): > > i was looking for summoner play style mmorpg and found that eve online drone mechanism is similar to summoner. If you look hard enough, you can see anything in everything, I guess. ![fc1](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/0/1/01ad4c7c9b7a02bbad156acfcd865460b60ceca3.png) ---
**Author:** ![Mkikaden\_Tiragen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mkikaden_tiragen/32/243913_2.png) [@Mkikaden\_Tiragen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mkikaden_Tiragen)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2020, 5:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drone-ship-pve-in-highsec-l4-not-viable-anymore-fix-suggestion-included/258932/184 "2020-08-10T17:09:46Z")
The fact that you started adding suggestions in the discussion thread doesn’t remove the original premise of your post, which can be summed up as ‘I want to be able to do L4 missions with combat drones. The NPC AI is making that hard to do without losing drones or warping off to repair them. That isn’t fun, or fair.’ The answer has been given: manage aggro so your drones don’t die as quickly, or swap your (largely pointless) lasers for remote reps and repair your drones. If you want to propose new mechanics, you are in the wrong forum section - this is General Discussion, not Player Features & Ideas. Feel free to split your proposals off to a new thread in the right place for discussion of their merits - but don’t call people off-topic for dissecting your original post and the issues inherent to your fit and playstyle as it relates to your stated objective of running L4 missions in a droneboat. ---
**Author:** ![Syn\_Shi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syn_shi/32/242535_2.png) [@Syn\_Shi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syn_Shi)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2020, 6:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drone-ship-pve-in-highsec-l4-not-viable-anymore-fix-suggestion-included/258932/185 "2020-08-10T18:23:32Z")
You’re doing it wrong. Join nullsec block. Farm mucho isk risk free. ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2020, 6:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drone-ship-pve-in-highsec-l4-not-viable-anymore-fix-suggestion-included/258932/186 "2020-08-10T18:24:59Z")
> [@Max\_Deveron](#): > > OTHERWISE STFU YOU PANSY F-ING CAREBEAR!! omg such beautiful words this guy is a poet ---
**Author:** ![Foggy\_Bernstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/foggy_bernstein/32/407887_2.png) [@Foggy\_Bernstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Foggy_Bernstein)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2020, 6:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drone-ship-pve-in-highsec-l4-not-viable-anymore-fix-suggestion-included/258932/187 "2020-08-10T18:32:33Z")
> [@Max\_Deveron](#): > > ok OP you have mentioned the word “summoner” several times now… > > This is not WoW I was going to say, “Before you have an episode, be sure you’ve never called a character a toon”, but I was too late. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2020, 10:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drone-ship-pve-in-highsec-l4-not-viable-anymore-fix-suggestion-included/258932/188 "2020-08-10T22:26:06Z")
I’m going to throw the OP a bone, drones already “heal” when they’re in the drone bay, this is limited to shield regen; just like your ship. If drones could recover both armour and hull hitpoints automatically or at the cost of nanite paste etc, CCP would have to introduce a ship module that does the same; breaking the game for everybody, because such a module would be OP as feck and everybody would fit one. There’s a reason that ship repair modules are split between shield, armour and ~~lol~~ hull, as are remote repair modules. ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2020, 10:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drone-ship-pve-in-highsec-l4-not-viable-anymore-fix-suggestion-included/258932/189 "2020-08-10T22:34:50Z")
Also tethering repairs drones. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2020, 10:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drone-ship-pve-in-highsec-l4-not-viable-anymore-fix-suggestion-included/258932/190 "2020-08-10T22:40:05Z")
I could get behind command bursts affecting drones by treating them as part of a fleet. Someone’s bound to come up with some shenanigans though, which is why we can’t have nice things ☹ 😃 Edit, dammit wrong reply button. ---
**Author:** ![Brun\_Warbear](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brun_warbear/32/380353_2.png) [@Brun\_Warbear](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brun_Warbear)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2020, 1:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drone-ship-pve-in-highsec-l4-not-viable-anymore-fix-suggestion-included/258932/191 "2020-08-11T01:25:27Z")
> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#): > > I could get behind command bursts affecting drones by treating them as part of a fleet. I mean, if you want an Orca to mine more than a Hulk and a Rorqual to mine more then 7 Hulks. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2020, 1:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drone-ship-pve-in-highsec-l4-not-viable-anymore-fix-suggestion-included/258932/192 "2020-08-11T01:40:15Z")
There is that. ☹ I didn’t actually think about that one I was more along the lines of the armour and shield boosts. On second thoughts let’s not go there, 'tis a silly place. ---
**Author:** ![Serene\_Repose](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/serene_repose/32/384960_2.png) [@Serene\_Repose](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Serene_Repose)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2020, 2:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drone-ship-pve-in-highsec-l4-not-viable-anymore-fix-suggestion-included/258932/193 "2020-08-11T02:21:22Z")
I think the OP has been ably refuted on all points. He refuses to acknowledge this, which is quite obtrusive. But, we’re not dicessing here if quantum gravity is the cosmological constant. There isn’t an infinite amount of points in this non-issue. The original poster refusing to admit the arguments against have prevailed doesn’t constitute debate. For the sake of the internet groaning under the weight of all this text howsabout slamming the lid on this and moving on? ---
**Author:** ![Spc\_One](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/spc_one/32/399501_2.png) [@Spc\_One](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Spc_One)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2020, 7:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drone-ship-pve-in-highsec-l4-not-viable-anymore-fix-suggestion-included/258932/194 "2020-08-11T07:15:04Z")
> [@Brun\_Warbear](#): > > Losing drones is always an acceptable solution. Then loosing turrets would also be nice. NPC shoots you with special weapon and you loose one turret. This would be awesome. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2020, 7:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drone-ship-pve-in-highsec-l4-not-viable-anymore-fix-suggestion-included/258932/195 "2020-08-11T07:58:45Z")
or just losing your ship, randomly. At the very least, reduce your ammos. How cool would that be, to have to reload your rack of RHML just because rats make it go from 20 to 10 ammos !!! ---
**Author:** ![Spc\_One](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/spc_one/32/399501_2.png) [@Spc\_One](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Spc_One)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2020, 8:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drone-ship-pve-in-highsec-l4-not-viable-anymore-fix-suggestion-included/258932/196 "2020-08-11T08:00:33Z")
Best thing would be if your ship gets stuck and you can’t do any damage (no turrets and drones left) to them and they can’t kill you, you can’t warp out. So that you have to sit 24 hours in front of eve, and wait for downtime. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2020, 8:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drone-ship-pve-in-highsec-l4-not-viable-anymore-fix-suggestion-included/258932/197 "2020-08-11T08:21:11Z")
I think we should make it that rats shooting a ship can add heat to a module. When a rat adds heat to a module that is already burnt, it is destroyed. This would mimic the state with drones perfectly. ---
**Author:** ![Sylvia\_Kildare](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sylvia_kildare/32/416948_2.png) [@Sylvia\_Kildare](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sylvia_Kildare)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2020, 8:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drone-ship-pve-in-highsec-l4-not-viable-anymore-fix-suggestion-included/258932/198 "2020-08-11T08:30:04Z")
OP: just switch to Navy drones instead. Geckos, augmented, t2 drones… all great for damage and all… but navy tanks best. I think there’s even implants now to increase your drone tanks… and ofc the Guristas line of ships helps with that. So yeah, go Rattlesnake/Gila/Worm and go navy drones. HTH. (or start using sentries and staying with them so you can insta-scoop if they start taking damage) ---
**Author:** ![Cygnus\_Carta](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cygnus_carta/32/217843_2.png) [@Cygnus\_Carta](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cygnus_Carta)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2020, 9:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drone-ship-pve-in-highsec-l4-not-viable-anymore-fix-suggestion-included/258932/199 "2020-08-11T09:01:41Z")
> [@Spc\_One](#): > > Then loosing turrets would also be nice. they lose ammo. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2020, 10:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drone-ship-pve-in-highsec-l4-not-viable-anymore-fix-suggestion-included/258932/200 "2020-08-11T10:06:59Z")
they don’t. they **USE** ammo. ---
**Author:** ![Brun\_Warbear](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brun_warbear/32/380353_2.png) [@Brun\_Warbear](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brun_Warbear)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2020, 10:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drone-ship-pve-in-highsec-l4-not-viable-anymore-fix-suggestion-included/258932/201 "2020-08-11T10:15:04Z")
Argue semantics all you want. A ship with no ammo is analogous to a ship with no drones. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drone-ship-pve-in-highsec-l4-not-viable-anymore-fix-suggestion-included/258932.md?page=9) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drone-ship-pve-in-highsec-l4-not-viable-anymore-fix-suggestion-included/258932.md?page=11)