# Drone ship pve in highsec l4 not viable anymore.. fix suggestion included **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [August 6, 2020, 6:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drone-ship-pve-in-highsec-l4-not-viable-anymore-fix-suggestion-included/258932 "2020-08-06T06:50:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![PI01\_Wanga](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pi01_wanga/32/192508_2.png) [@PI01\_Wanga](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/PI01_Wanga)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2020, 11:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drone-ship-pve-in-highsec-l4-not-viable-anymore-fix-suggestion-included/258932/222 "2020-08-11T23:37:10Z")
> [@Daichi\_Yamato](#): > > Btw, if the EOS is tanking just fine, why are you warping away for repair? all my drone are damaged too much. lost 1 augmented hobgoblin. drone hating npc? even after i kill off all the small rats and left with battleship class rats, they still switch target from me to drone no matter how many times i relaunch them. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2020, 11:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drone-ship-pve-in-highsec-l4-not-viable-anymore-fix-suggestion-included/258932/223 "2020-08-11T23:44:18Z")
> [@PI01\_Wanga](#): > > even after i kill off all the small rats and left with battleship class rats, they still switch target from me to drone no matter how many times i relaunch them. That looks like the bug where the rats hate your drones. Next time, try to warp to a safe, exit your ship, then dock back in. ---
**Author:** ![PI01\_Wanga](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pi01_wanga/32/192508_2.png) [@PI01\_Wanga](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/PI01_Wanga)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2020, 11:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drone-ship-pve-in-highsec-l4-not-viable-anymore-fix-suggestion-included/258932/224 "2020-08-11T23:47:59Z")
> [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > Next time, try to warp to a safe, exit your ship, then dock back in. isn’t a bug supposed to be fix instead of a hidden workaround? relogging doesn’t fix it? how about after server restart? the bug still persist? ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2020, 11:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drone-ship-pve-in-highsec-l4-not-viable-anymore-fix-suggestion-included/258932/225 "2020-08-11T23:48:52Z")
> [@PI01\_Wanga](#): > > isn’t a bug supposed to be fix instead of a workaround? that’s the theory. The reality is, a bug becomes a feature . > [@PI01\_Wanga](#): > > relogging doesn’t fix it? how about after server restart? no, yes. Basically when this happens your ship becomes a very low priority for all rats, so your drones are attacked before you. ---
**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2020, 11:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drone-ship-pve-in-highsec-l4-not-viable-anymore-fix-suggestion-included/258932/226 "2020-08-11T23:53:10Z")
My advice is to get closer and try to draw aggro using your lasers. If your tanking is fine, shoot everything in the room with your lasers at least once until you have every enemy shooting you. Then poop drones and take out targets closest to you first, preferring destroyers and frigates. Pull drones in when they take damage to reset aggro. Rinse and repeat. Things should gradually get more manageable as you slowly clear the room and you can send drones further and further out. But like I said, that mission will be a pain for any brawler. ---
**Author:** ![Brun\_Warbear](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brun_warbear/32/380353_2.png) [@Brun\_Warbear](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brun_Warbear)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2020, 12:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drone-ship-pve-in-highsec-l4-not-viable-anymore-fix-suggestion-included/258932/227 "2020-08-12T00:00:11Z")
Your go to is always the same tired passive aggressive ad hominem garbage. You’re not worth holding a discussion with because you have so much contempt for everyone else. Honestly you’ve added nothing but baseless rhetoric to this thread and just insulted people who disagree with you. Enjoy whatever satisfaction you’re feeling. Your Pyrrhic “victory” is all yours. You have nothing to offer. ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2020, 12:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drone-ship-pve-in-highsec-l4-not-viable-anymore-fix-suggestion-included/258932/228 "2020-08-12T00:03:22Z")
If you want your drones to repair armor in the drone bay, then it should be a mod to fit. You want that advantage, then you should have to give up something/a slot. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2020, 12:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drone-ship-pve-in-highsec-l4-not-viable-anymore-fix-suggestion-included/258932/229 "2020-08-12T00:22:44Z")
> [@Brun\_Warbear](#): > > Your go to is always the same tired passive aggressive ad hominem garbage. Well, that’s an ad hominem. So you’re not worth discussing with yourself, I guess. > [@Brun\_Warbear](#): > > Your Pyrrhic “victory” is all yours. You have nothing to offer. I don’t think Pyrrhic means what you believe it means. ---
**Author:** ![Max\_Deveron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/max_deveron/32/245870_2.png) [@Max\_Deveron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Max_Deveron)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2020, 2:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drone-ship-pve-in-highsec-l4-not-viable-anymore-fix-suggestion-included/258932/230 "2020-08-12T02:25:38Z")
Op, you keep mentioning worlds collide… not sure what space you are in… But in Caldari space… Serpentis side… Burn away and aggro everything, launch drones…they will engage properly and the frigs stay on your ship (aggro), after you have aggroed the room. Guristas side: A little different cause teh frigs are mostly Dire Pithi, you need to slowly aggro each pocket as you burn out, blap the frigs with rails or something…once the Dires are gone, launch drones and wipe the room. ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2020, 2:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drone-ship-pve-in-highsec-l4-not-viable-anymore-fix-suggestion-included/258932/231 "2020-08-12T02:26:37Z")
@Anderson_Geten > [@MB\_ThePhotographer](#): > > If you want your drones to repair armor in the drone bay, then it should be a mod to fit. You want that advantage, then you should have to give up something/a slot. Well? ---
**Author:** ![Skip\_Lorry](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/skip_lorry/32/244808_2.png) [@Skip\_Lorry](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Skip_Lorry)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2020, 6:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drone-ship-pve-in-highsec-l4-not-viable-anymore-fix-suggestion-included/258932/232 "2020-08-12T06:03:18Z")
> [@PI01\_Wanga](#): > > ok, i didn’t watch the video, just check for the date. anyway, still it’s not the problem due to the “newer” update. beside, as you said, he use it to “tank” dps. as a sacrificial drone. not really a drone ship then. Anomic Missions are highsec L4. Drones are viable used in them. The ship even had two drone damage amps. WTF it’s not really a drone ship? Because it used drones in a way you didn’t think of? Think different. 🍎 ---
**Author:** ![PI01\_Wanga](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pi01_wanga/32/192508_2.png) [@PI01\_Wanga](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/PI01_Wanga)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2020, 7:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drone-ship-pve-in-highsec-l4-not-viable-anymore-fix-suggestion-included/258932/233 "2020-08-12T07:08:19Z")
> [@Daichi\_Yamato](#): > > shoot everything in the room with your lasers at least once until you have every enemy shooting you > [@Daichi\_Yamato](#): > > But like I said, that mission will be a pain for any brawler. Wow… as drone brawler you have to shoot everything in the room once before launching drone… and this is the same pain as any brawler like turret and missile? Sorry, but i disagree cause your statement already said it’s far more crazy for drone ship compare to turret/missile. > [@MB\_ThePhotographer](#): > > You want that advantage, then you should have to give up something/a slot. Agreed. That’s why i suggested a high slot module for this. They could even made it active cycle and consume some capacitor with nanite as ammo. > [@Skip\_Lorry](#): > > The ship even had two drone damage amps. WTF it’s not really a drone ship? So, your definition of drone ship is fitting drone damage amps? I guess vindicator is a drone ship then cause they also fit drone damage amps with turret damage amps for higher dps. Sorry to inform you, but my definition of drone ship is higher drone dps then turrets/missiles. ---
**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2020, 7:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drone-ship-pve-in-highsec-l4-not-viable-anymore-fix-suggestion-included/258932/234 "2020-08-12T07:10:50Z")
> [@PI01\_Wanga](#): > > Sorry, but i disagree cause your statement already said it’s far more crazy for drone ship compare to turret/missile. Have you tried running L4 missions in a blaster Astarte yet? Because then you may understand what i mean. ---
**Author:** ![Cygnus\_Carta](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cygnus_carta/32/217843_2.png) [@Cygnus\_Carta](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cygnus_Carta)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2020, 8:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drone-ship-pve-in-highsec-l4-not-viable-anymore-fix-suggestion-included/258932/235 "2020-08-12T08:59:14Z")
> [@PI01\_Wanga](#): > > rattlesnake is not a drone boat. it’s more of a missile boat. Easy solution then, don’t rely on its drones… but use its missiles. Or does that mess up your “perfectly crafted” (dumb logic) reasoning as to why things need to change. Use sentries, stop being bad. Problem solved. ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2020, 11:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drone-ship-pve-in-highsec-l4-not-viable-anymore-fix-suggestion-included/258932/236 "2020-08-12T11:58:14Z")
> [@PI01\_Wanga](#): > > thanks to the ai keep switching aggro to drone Are you sure this isn’t because of the “drone bug”? The one where, mistakenly, the AI constantly targets your drones instead of your ship but when you eject your ship and get back in the drone aggro stops? ---
**Author:** ![Skip\_Lorry](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/skip_lorry/32/244808_2.png) [@Skip\_Lorry](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Skip_Lorry)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2020, 2:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drone-ship-pve-in-highsec-l4-not-viable-anymore-fix-suggestion-included/258932/237 "2020-08-12T14:45:03Z")
> [@PI01\_Wanga](#): > > Sorry to inform you, but my definition of drone ship is higher drone dps then turrets/missiles. You should really look into what people are telling you before responding. ![anomic_gnosis](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/8/5/8575f0fccb799ae2a9b534ce9d8ac044bf44052f.png) ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2020, 4:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drone-ship-pve-in-highsec-l4-not-viable-anymore-fix-suggestion-included/258932/238 "2020-08-12T16:39:59Z")
> [@PI01\_Wanga](#): > > due to this, i would like to suggest a fix to make drone pve content viable again. drone need to have rapid regen while dock in ship to regen lost hull/armor/shield. so we can carry 2 squadron of drone (250m3) and switch between them while 1 squadron repair on mothership. EVE has a thing called ‘remote repair modules’ that work on friendly ships as well as **drones**. Maybe instead of asking for new functionality, make use of existing functionality? Bonus points: using remote repair modules will sometimes draw aggro from rats. ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2020, 9:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drone-ship-pve-in-highsec-l4-not-viable-anymore-fix-suggestion-included/258932/239 "2020-08-12T21:46:48Z")
> [@Gerard\_Amatin](#): > > ‘remote repair modules’ I said this before. I don’t know if it still works because it’s not worth doing when there are better ships for the few missions that have bad agro for drones. When the 1st drone takes agro, pull it back the the drone bay breaking lock. The npc’s now agro more drones, but usually split their agro. Launch the 1st drone, set to orbit and repair while calling in the next aggroed drones. At this point, it’s usually just best to recall all of them now breaking lock on the drones and taking agro on my ship. Launch drones, set them to orbit and repair them. Then/rinse/repeat. It’s not worth doing, but it can be done. ---
**Author:** ![Troilus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/troilus/32/223576_2.png) [@Troilus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Troilus)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2020, 7:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drone-ship-pve-in-highsec-l4-not-viable-anymore-fix-suggestion-included/258932/240 "2020-08-13T07:31:53Z")
OP needs to git gud. I have zero problems using drones in a Domi/Ishtar/Gila on L4 missions, and neither does . I ran Worlds Collide a few days ago with my Domi, and then again in my Ishtar. You have to pay attention to when the rats start yellowboxing your drones, and watch their health. Use faction drones if you’re worried about their hp, plus they track better. Geckos are entirely unnecessary on L4 missions. Augmented drones are for special use cases, you should mostly be swapping between factions and T2s. I can’t believe we’re having a serious discussion about this. Pull aggro before launching and recall your drones when the start to take damage. Stop being lazy. And even when you do everything right, you can lose a drone from sudden mass aggro, but that’s why your bay has space for spares. You can’t expect to just launch drones and AFK. Learn to play the game, a major part of it is choosing the right fit for the job and figuring out how to fly it optimally. It sounds like you want to fly your fits suboptimally and still succeed, good luck with that. Also, go run some filaments solo in a Worm and tell me the Guristas ships aren’t drone boats. They have the single strongest set of hull bonuses for drones outside of maybe an Ishtar and the best bonuses for drone durability. Also, Worm solo abyss is good training for keeping your drones alive. Especially on the Tessera waves. ---
**Author:** ![Gergoran\_Moussou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gergoran_moussou/32/381607_2.png) [@Gergoran\_Moussou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gergoran_Moussou)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2020, 9:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drone-ship-pve-in-highsec-l4-not-viable-anymore-fix-suggestion-included/258932/241 "2020-08-13T09:03:58Z")
Are we still laughing at OP for saying that Rattlesnake isn’t primarily a drone ship? I’ve looked at a few Rattlesnake fits, fleet doctrine and PVE, to see what the main source of damage is. Not missiles… [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drone-ship-pve-in-highsec-l4-not-viable-anymore-fix-suggestion-included/258932.md?page=11) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drone-ship-pve-in-highsec-l4-not-viable-anymore-fix-suggestion-included/258932.md?page=13)