# Drone ship pve in highsec l4 not viable anymore.. fix suggestion included **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [August 6, 2020, 6:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drone-ship-pve-in-highsec-l4-not-viable-anymore-fix-suggestion-included/258932 "2020-08-06T06:50:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2020, 3:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drone-ship-pve-in-highsec-l4-not-viable-anymore-fix-suggestion-included/258932/21 "2020-08-06T15:45:09Z")
I am pretty sure that different rats use different AI. Once a mercenary aggro’s you, he isn’t going to ever attack your drones. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2020, 4:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drone-ship-pve-in-highsec-l4-not-viable-anymore-fix-suggestion-included/258932/22 "2020-08-06T16:01:55Z")
AFAIK there’s always a chance that an NPC will switch targets once locked on to anything, IIRC there’s also a loose class system in action; frigates may attack lights + bigger, cruisers mediums + bigger and battleships heavies. I have seen a battleship NPC trying to kill light drones with heavy missiles though, dumbass. ---
**Author:** ![Cygnus\_Carta](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cygnus_carta/32/217843_2.png) [@Cygnus\_Carta](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cygnus_Carta)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2020, 4:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drone-ship-pve-in-highsec-l4-not-viable-anymore-fix-suggestion-included/258932/23 "2020-08-06T16:10:57Z")
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**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2020, 4:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drone-ship-pve-in-highsec-l4-not-viable-anymore-fix-suggestion-included/258932/24 "2020-08-06T16:37:27Z")
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**Author:** ![Xuxe\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuxe_xu/32/464660_2.png) [@Xuxe\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuxe_Xu)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2020, 5:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drone-ship-pve-in-highsec-l4-not-viable-anymore-fix-suggestion-included/258932/25 "2020-08-06T17:42:50Z")
> [@PI01\_Wanga](#): > > …unable to l4 farm succesfully Good. Search the forums to see the same complaints in regards to nullsec anomolies and drone AI changes to see how those who wished to play the game dealt with that. Essentially use a drone navigation computer or two, train drone navigation skill, pay attention and manage the drones rather than depending on them to pause between automatically aquiring another target, pop frigates first. yw ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2020, 5:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drone-ship-pve-in-highsec-l4-not-viable-anymore-fix-suggestion-included/258932/26 "2020-08-06T17:59:18Z")
> [@PI01\_Wanga](#): > > due to this, i would like to suggest a fix to make drone pve content viable again. drone need to have rapid regen while dock in ship to regen lost hull/armor/shield. so we can carry 2 squadron of drone (250m3) and switch between them while 1 squadron repair on mothership. > > what is your opinion? No, go away. ---
**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2020, 6:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drone-ship-pve-in-highsec-l4-not-viable-anymore-fix-suggestion-included/258932/27 "2020-08-06T18:05:18Z")
No, drones are still extremely powerful for PVE despite all the changes and the extra NPC damage resist to drones. ---
**Author:** ![God\_Emperor\_Kane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/god_emperor_kane/32/399336_2.png) [@God\_Emperor\_Kane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/God_Emperor_Kane)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2020, 6:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drone-ship-pve-in-highsec-l4-not-viable-anymore-fix-suggestion-included/258932/28 "2020-08-06T18:06:04Z")
If nobody asked. Can I have your stuff? Because we both know CCP is not going to change it. ---
**Author:** ![PI01\_Wanga](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pi01_wanga/32/192508_2.png) [@PI01\_Wanga](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/PI01_Wanga)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2020, 10:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drone-ship-pve-in-highsec-l4-not-viable-anymore-fix-suggestion-included/258932/29 "2020-08-06T22:23:24Z")
> [@Drone ship pve in highsec l4 not viable anymore.. fix suggestion included](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drone-ship-pve-in-highsec-l4-not-viable-anymore-fix-suggestion-included/258932/18): > > When all else fails, break out the nasty drones. Bit pricey but nice, especially if you’re sat on a stockpile of one or both. Geckos and their medium brothers the ‘subverted’ JVN-UC49 i tested using 2 geckos, 2 augmented hammerhead, 1 augmented hobgoblin. i bring 2 squad of these to test. almost all drones in both squad are damaged and 1 hobgoblin lost. i tested on l4 mission world collide. (not completed due to losing 1 hobgoblin and most drone in low health). constantly relaunch drone and enemy (including battleship) constantly retarget my drone. > [@Drone ship pve in highsec l4 not viable anymore.. fix suggestion included](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drone-ship-pve-in-highsec-l4-not-viable-anymore-fix-suggestion-included/258932/16): > > I’ll lay odds that he’s leaving frigates on field and that they’re killing his light drones while they go and autokill all of the things; he should be prioritising his targets not letting the drones choose them at random. Elite frigates are absolute bastards for murdering Henry the Hobgoblin II and his friends i doubt EOS can tank the whole room by taking out all frigate first. > [@Drone ship pve in highsec l4 not viable anymore.. fix suggestion included](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drone-ship-pve-in-highsec-l4-not-viable-anymore-fix-suggestion-included/258932/11): > > I think the drone aggro mechanisms in the low to mid end PVE are pretty terrible. A simple solution to everyone’s issues with drones would be to treat them like turrets and launchers. Make NPC’s not target drones, but the drones don’t automatically move on to the next target, you have to tell them to do that. i don’t mind manually tell the drone to target next. > [@Drone ship pve in highsec l4 not viable anymore.. fix suggestion included](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drone-ship-pve-in-highsec-l4-not-viable-anymore-fix-suggestion-included/258932/8): > > This just validates that the changes are working. > [@Drone ship pve in highsec l4 not viable anymore.. fix suggestion included](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drone-ship-pve-in-highsec-l4-not-viable-anymore-fix-suggestion-included/258932/3): > > Good, thats the point of them bot still roam the server in whatever ship automatically. as for afk farming, making pilot need to constantly return for repair while launching another drone to replace the one being repair will definitely solve the afk farming as well. > [@Drone ship pve in highsec l4 not viable anymore.. fix suggestion included](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drone-ship-pve-in-highsec-l4-not-viable-anymore-fix-suggestion-included/258932/7): > > I mission level fours with drones, and no significant problems have me agonizing for change. True, the drone game is more challenging,and some do get lost, but that expense isn’t any more than gun ammo or missiles others must expend to run the same content. Honestly, before the changes it was shameful using the same five drones for months while others are paying running ammo expenses. To find angst in using drones seems more the condition of someone who either wants to unleash them and go wat… even if you are using t1 drones, how often can you replace them before you need make a drone reinforcement run? beside, gecko cost 100m.. losing 1 = takes forever to farm it back. how much ammo can you buy with 100m? if you say it’s only fair for player to lose drone as turret/missile boat need to pay ammo, i won’t mind they start implementing ammo for drone as well. > [@Drone ship pve in highsec l4 not viable anymore.. fix suggestion included](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drone-ship-pve-in-highsec-l4-not-viable-anymore-fix-suggestion-included/258932/5): > > This. Or more accurately: “I’m just farming ISK for some reason and CCP have succeeded in their stated objective of reducing that.” The idea that NPCs actively attack the things that are hurting them isn’t unreasonable - they attack a gunship or a missile ship that is firing on them, they use weapon and sensor disruption to degrade the attacker’s capabilities as well as direct fire. The anomaly was that they didn’t try to defeat drones, and that has been resolved (in part) by more aggressive … i agree. that’s why i suggested to auto repair drone while in drone boy so that you can relaunch it after it has been fix mid combat instead of warping away to station when you are in angel extravaganza bonus room. thanks for all your constructive reply. greatly appreciate it. as for the trolls, you are free to flame as your opinion too. after thinking about it with all your input, i still think making drone auto repair on drone bay is good. perhaps i don’t mean fast repair like carrier mechanic, but maybe few minutes depending on the severity of the damage? this way, it will make sense to carry multiple squadron of the same type so while 1 squadron is being slowly repair, you can launch another one to take it’s place. alternative suggestion by other/me: 1. make rats stop targeting drone but remove drone autotargeting so pilot need to manually target just like turrent. (@Ira_Infernus) 2. make drone consume ammo as well just like turret 3. increase drone bay capacity so we can carry enough squadron of the same type to finish 1 l4 mission like angel extravaganza and world collide without needing to dock up and repair. again, what do you think? your opinion is greatly appreciated. ---
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2020, 10:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drone-ship-pve-in-highsec-l4-not-viable-anymore-fix-suggestion-included/258932/30 "2020-08-06T22:36:51Z")
> [@PI01\_Wanga](#): > > i doubt EOS can tank the whole room by taking out all frigate first. Yeah, a COMMAND SHIP is having trouble tanking. A class of ships that are known for the extreme ability to tank and highest T2 resistance profiles. **Link your fit.** ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2020, 10:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drone-ship-pve-in-highsec-l4-not-viable-anymore-fix-suggestion-included/258932/31 "2020-08-06T22:37:43Z")
> [@PI01\_Wanga](#): > > l4 mission world collide This is one of the worst missions to be using drones for, all variants of it are decidedly drone unfriendly, the elite ships munch them like popcorn. You’re better off with a missile boat tbh. > angel extravaganza lvl 4 This has numerous elite frigates that love to kill drones, it’s doable in a drone boat but you have to keep your drones on passive and a rack full of guns or missiles in the high slots. Spawn management will also help with drone aggro, if you don’t already know the triggers then eve survival is your friend. [https://eve-survival.org/wikka.php?wakka=MissionReports](https://eve-survival.org/wikka.php?wakka=MissionReports) ---
**Author:** ![PI01\_Wanga](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pi01_wanga/32/192508_2.png) [@PI01\_Wanga](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/PI01_Wanga)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2020, 10:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drone-ship-pve-in-highsec-l4-not-viable-anymore-fix-suggestion-included/258932/32 "2020-08-06T22:44:33Z")
> [@Drone ship pve in highsec l4 not viable anymore.. fix suggestion included](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drone-ship-pve-in-highsec-l4-not-viable-anymore-fix-suggestion-included/258932/31): > > This is one of the worst missions to be using drones for, all variants of it are decidedly drone unfriendly, the elite ships munch them like popcorn. You’re better off with a missile boat tbh. angel extravaganza lvl 4 This has numerous elite frigates that love to kill drones, it’s doable in a drone boat but you have to keep your drones on passive and a rack full of guns or missiles in the high slots. Spawn management will also help with drone aggro, if you don’t already know the triggers t… l4 mission world collide battleship… not really battleship but the entire room drop aggro on me and target drone. rats that i didn’t aggro also target drone for whatever reason. i have rack full of medium pulse laser on my tested EOS and i do use them when i get into range. i was using afterburner for a bit of speed tanking in EOS. ---
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2020, 10:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drone-ship-pve-in-highsec-l4-not-viable-anymore-fix-suggestion-included/258932/33 "2020-08-06T22:46:33Z")
> [@PI01\_Wanga](#): > > i have rack full of medium pulse laser on my tested EOS and i do use them when i get into range. i was using afterburner for a bit of speed tanking in EOS. Link. Your. Fit. ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2020, 10:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drone-ship-pve-in-highsec-l4-not-viable-anymore-fix-suggestion-included/258932/34 "2020-08-06T22:46:53Z")
Stick a small armor rep in a high slot. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2020, 10:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drone-ship-pve-in-highsec-l4-not-viable-anymore-fix-suggestion-included/258932/35 "2020-08-06T22:47:04Z")
> [@PI01\_Wanga](#): > > rack full of medium pulse laser on my tested EOS Why? That’s a monstrosity; how long have you been actively playing Eve? ---
**Author:** ![Xuxe\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuxe_xu/32/464660_2.png) [@Xuxe\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuxe_Xu)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2020, 10:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drone-ship-pve-in-highsec-l4-not-viable-anymore-fix-suggestion-included/258932/36 "2020-08-06T22:51:34Z")
> [@PI01\_Wanga](#): > > what is your opinion? That you should adapt to the ways things actually are _now_ in the game rather than wish. > [@PI01\_Wanga](#): > > again, what do you think? your opinion is greatly appreciated. Obviously not. You were given answers but if you choose to dismiss what you don’t want to hear as “trolling”…well…whatever…good luck… ---
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2020, 10:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drone-ship-pve-in-highsec-l4-not-viable-anymore-fix-suggestion-included/258932/37 "2020-08-06T22:51:47Z")
We’re gonna find out that all of OP’s problems came because his Eos was fit really badly, lmao. Medium pulse lasers on an EOS, omg. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2020, 10:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drone-ship-pve-in-highsec-l4-not-viable-anymore-fix-suggestion-included/258932/38 "2020-08-06T22:52:41Z")
I mean, an arty shield Myrmidon is fun, but a laser Eos? ---
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2020, 10:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drone-ship-pve-in-highsec-l4-not-viable-anymore-fix-suggestion-included/258932/39 "2020-08-06T22:54:15Z")
I like how OP ran away as soon as he was asked to show his fit. ---
**Author:** ![PI01\_Wanga](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pi01_wanga/32/192508_2.png) [@PI01\_Wanga](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/PI01_Wanga)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2020, 10:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drone-ship-pve-in-highsec-l4-not-viable-anymore-fix-suggestion-included/258932/40 "2020-08-06T22:58:50Z")
> [@Drone ship pve in highsec l4 not viable anymore.. fix suggestion included](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drone-ship-pve-in-highsec-l4-not-viable-anymore-fix-suggestion-included/258932/33): > > Link. Your. Fit. > [@Drone ship pve in highsec l4 not viable anymore.. fix suggestion included](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drone-ship-pve-in-highsec-l4-not-viable-anymore-fix-suggestion-included/258932/37): > > We’re gonna find out that all of OP’s problems came because his Eos was fit really badly, lmao. Medium pulse lasers on an EOS, omg. > [@Drone ship pve in highsec l4 not viable anymore.. fix suggestion included](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drone-ship-pve-in-highsec-l4-not-viable-anymore-fix-suggestion-included/258932/38): > > I mean, an arty shield Myrmidon is fun, but a laser Eos? > [@Drone ship pve in highsec l4 not viable anymore.. fix suggestion included](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drone-ship-pve-in-highsec-l4-not-viable-anymore-fix-suggestion-included/258932/39): > > I like how OP ran away as soon as he was asked to show his fit. the reason i choose laser is due the ammo cargo space constraint. i was using the ship cargo to carry extra drone… and laser ammo last forever. i didn’t post my fit because i was lazy to log into my account… but since there is high demand, here you go. [Eos, Eos Singularity] Federation Navy Drone Damage Amplifier Federation Navy Drone Damage Amplifier Federation Navy Drone Damage Amplifier Federation Navy Drone Damage Amplifier Centum B-Type Multispectrum Energized Membrane Reactive Armor Hardener Centum A-Type Medium Armor Repairer Corelum A-Type 10MN Afterburner Federation Navy Omnidirectional Tracking Link Republic Fleet Large Cap Battery Medium Micro Jump Drive Imperial Navy Heavy Pulse Laser Imperial Navy Heavy Pulse Laser Imperial Navy Heavy Pulse Laser Imperial Navy Heavy Pulse Laser Black Eagle Drone Link Augmentor Medium Drone Durability Enhancer II Medium Drone Durability Enhancer II Warrior II x5 ‘Augmented’ Hammerhead x4 ‘Augmented’ Hobgoblin x1 Salvage Drone I x5 Gecko x4 Imperial Navy Multifrequency M x12 Tracking Speed Script x1 Federation Navy Drone Navigation Computer x1 [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drone-ship-pve-in-highsec-l4-not-viable-anymore-fix-suggestion-included/258932.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drone-ship-pve-in-highsec-l4-not-viable-anymore-fix-suggestion-included/258932.md?page=3)