# Dual Tank Astero dies to Heron

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dual-tank-astero-dies-to-heron/258060>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Tags:** pvp\
**Created:** [August 2, 2020, 4:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dual-tank-astero-dies-to-heron/258060 "2020-08-02T04:17:44Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Path\_Starbreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/path_starbreaker/32/221571_2.png) [@Path\_Starbreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Path_Starbreaker)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2020, 8:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dual-tank-astero-dies-to-heron/258060/61 "2020-08-02T08:38:27Z")

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2020.08.02 03:04:26

Victim: Path Starbreaker  
Corp: Sebiestor Tribe  
Alliance: Unknown  
Faction: Unknown  
Destroyed: Astero  
System: SS-GED  
Security: -0.2  
Damage Taken: 3028

Involved parties:

Name: Neant Final (laid the final blow)  
Security: 5.00  
Corp: From the Heaven we Strike  
Alliance: The Enceladus Nebula  
Faction: None  
Ship: Heron  
Weapon: Hobgoblin II  
Damage Done: 3028

Destroyed items:

Telemetry Processor, Qty: 28 (Cargo)  
Capacitor Console, Qty: 4 (Cargo)  
Enhanced Ward Console, Qty: 12 (Cargo)  
Small Auxiliary Nano Pump II  
Warp Scrambler II  
Burned Logic Circuit, Qty: 182 (Cargo)  
Logic Circuit, Qty: 29 (Cargo)  
Sisters Core Scanner Probe, Qty: 4 (Cargo)  
Sisters Core Scanner Probe, Qty: 8  
Small Ancillary Armor Repairer  
Tripped Power Circuit, Qty: 242 (Cargo)  
Small Auxiliary Nano Pump II  
Damaged Artificial Neural Network, Qty: 263 (Cargo)  
Artificial Neural Network, Qty: 22 (Cargo)  
Micro Circuit, Qty: 14 (Cargo)  
1MN Afterburner II  
Small Explosive Armor Reinforcer I  
Nanite Repair Paste, Qty: 18 (Cargo)  
Ward Console, Qty: 222 (Cargo)  
Malfunctioning Shield Emitter, Qty: 116 (Cargo)  
Hornet EC-300, Qty: 2 (Drone Bay)  
Intact Shield Emitter, Qty: 19 (Cargo)  
Navy Cap Booster 400  
Tangled Power Conduit, Qty: 11 (Cargo)  
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II  
Fried Interface Circuit, Qty: 183 (Cargo)  
Sisters Core Probe Launcher

Dropped items:

Scorched Telemetry Processor, Qty: 190 (Cargo)  
Metal Scraps, Qty: 9 (Cargo)  
Sisters Core Scanner Probe, Qty: 4 (Cargo)  
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II  
Relic Analyzer II  
Charred Micro Circuit, Qty: 208 (Cargo)  
Power Circuit, Qty: 2 (Cargo)  
Small Armor Repairer II  
Small Capacitor Booster II  
Reactive Armor Hardener  
Interface Circuit, Qty: 29 (Cargo)  
Carbon, Qty: 16 (Cargo)  
Hornet EC-300, Qty: 3 (Drone Bay)  
Navy Cap Booster 400, Qty: 8 (Cargo)  
Warrior II, Qty: 5 (Drone Bay)

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**Author:** ![Path\_Starbreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/path_starbreaker/32/221571_2.png) [@Path\_Starbreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Path_Starbreaker)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2020, 8:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dual-tank-astero-dies-to-heron/258060/62 "2020-08-02T08:39:08Z")

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That is what you wanted right? I guess the link does not work right.

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2020, 8:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dual-tank-astero-dies-to-heron/258060/63 "2020-08-02T08:42:25Z")

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It needs to be parsed, every item in Eve has an item ID that the game translates to something you can understand.

You’ve got a presence on Zkillboard but your recent loss isn’t showing, I don’t know if you’ve submitted an API key or if your presence if down to others with already submitted keys.

> **[Path Starbreaker | Character](https://zkillboard.com/character/2113205882/)**
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> Path Starbreaker: 3 ships destroyed and 11 ships lost.

> **[zkillboard.com / Faq | Information](https://zkillboard.com/information/faq/)**
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> zkillboard.com is a killboard for the Massively Multiplayer Online Role Playing Game (MMORPG) EVE-Online.

Edit, the killmail just appeared on zkill.

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**Author:** ![Path\_Starbreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/path_starbreaker/32/221571_2.png) [@Path\_Starbreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Path_Starbreaker)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2020, 8:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dual-tank-astero-dies-to-heron/258060/64 "2020-08-02T08:48:17Z")

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I just logged in and its there now!

Yeah, I logged in for a month a few years ago, another month a year after that… and now that the Rona is here I find myself with extra time and a desire to get off this planet lol.

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**Author:** ![Path\_Starbreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/path_starbreaker/32/221571_2.png) [@Path\_Starbreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Path_Starbreaker)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2020, 8:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dual-tank-astero-dies-to-heron/258060/65 "2020-08-02T08:50:41Z")

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Jeez including the implants it was like 325m total loss. That hurts my feelings.

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2020, 8:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dual-tank-astero-dies-to-heron/258060/66 "2020-08-02T08:52:23Z")

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Try getting podded with a full set of Genolution core implants because you undocked in a pod, with a criminal timer.

That hurt; at today’s prices somewhere in the region of 700 million isk.

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**Author:** ![Trevor\_Dalech](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/trevor_dalech/32/410287_2.png) [@Trevor\_Dalech](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Trevor_Dalech)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2020, 8:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dual-tank-astero-dies-to-heron/258060/67 "2020-08-02T08:52:24Z")

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Your astero fit is solid, that heron fit is just specifically fit to bait and kill astero. I’ve occasionally seen that, and similar, herons around, but most herons do not fit or fly like that. You just had bad luck that this was your first.

Keep up the good work protecting archeological sites from looters!

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2020, 8:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dual-tank-astero-dies-to-heron/258060/68 "2020-08-02T08:59:52Z")

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> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#):
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> Try getting podded with a full set of Genolution core implants because you undocked in a pod, with a criminal timer.
> 
> That hurt.

Yes, but have you ever lost 10B in a suicide gank at the height of your PvP career?

![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/0/8/0840ff31b011e564ea719aba3876b424bea1f9da.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2020, 9:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dual-tank-astero-dies-to-heron/258060/69 "2020-08-02T09:00:15Z")

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ouch

and rofl

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2020, 9:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dual-tank-astero-dies-to-heron/258060/70 "2020-08-02T09:00:33Z")

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![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/c/0/c035f0f3e57ac42d7187b508c24d983445bfda2e.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2020, 9:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dual-tank-astero-dies-to-heron/258060/71 "2020-08-02T09:02:14Z")

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**Author:** ![Wanda\_Fayne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wanda_fayne/32/377654_2.png) [@Wanda\_Fayne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wanda_Fayne)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2020, 9:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dual-tank-astero-dies-to-heron/258060/72 "2020-08-02T09:05:27Z")

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Nobody liked this post? 😶

This is the kind of thread you _should like_. Guy does some research, builds a ship and goes out to **pvp**. Gets killed, talks to the guy who killed him, comes to community and asks for help so he can learn from his mistakes and do pvp bettter.

+1

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2020, 9:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dual-tank-astero-dies-to-heron/258060/73 "2020-08-02T09:08:14Z")

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tbh I think the responses more than compensate for the like deficit; but yeah we should.

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2020, 9:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dual-tank-astero-dies-to-heron/258060/74 "2020-08-02T09:09:17Z")

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See my post #57. I feel like that’s a better idea.

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**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2020, 9:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dual-tank-astero-dies-to-heron/258060/75 "2020-08-02T09:45:39Z")

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> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#):
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> if you had whined and moaned about how unfair it was that you died to a cheap ship the responses would have been very different.

Oh yeah!

 ![Evil laugh](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/d/4d01701aadf73f96bd7a3e03cf8cc0d65050727f.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2020, 9:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dual-tank-astero-dies-to-heron/258060/76 "2020-08-02T09:50:34Z")

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Poor Nicky is sad he doesn’t get to raid the forum trashcan today because the owners realized the apple wasn’t rotten yet and took it back into the house.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2020, 9:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dual-tank-astero-dies-to-heron/258060/77 "2020-08-02T09:55:47Z")

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This is a great thread.

11/10 saved with all hands.

Its beautiful.

No sarcasm.

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**Author:** ![Cygnus\_Carta](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cygnus_carta/32/217843_2.png) [@Cygnus\_Carta](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cygnus_Carta)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2020, 10:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dual-tank-astero-dies-to-heron/258060/79 "2020-08-02T10:51:29Z")

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I’ve not real all of the replies, I’m lazy, but you encountered a battle Heron. Generally equiped with T2 rockets and some ancillary shield boosters (when used in WH space) Your Dual repped cap boosted Astero should with this if used right and it’s the “if used right” where he got you. He probably took out your drones and you didn’t realize it.

It takes a ton of experience and a bunch of understanding to become a good pvper, dying/failing is part of that process. The fact that you tried in the first place already means that you’re pvping.

You generally find Battle Herons in obvious locations, so like a direct WH very close to a trade hub like Jita and always sitting near the WH itself or at a planet. You don’t see too many of them though so you really just got unlucky to end up in this situation and then you lacked the experience to win. Which is to be expected.

At the very least it shows you that you don’t win by using X ship, you win by being better prepared for X situation.

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**Author:** ![Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/archer_en_tilavine/32/461718_2.png) [@Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Archer_en_Tilavine)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2020, 11:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dual-tank-astero-dies-to-heron/258060/80 "2020-08-02T11:04:08Z")

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@Destiny_Corrupted put the mezcal away, cry less

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2020, 11:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dual-tank-astero-dies-to-heron/258060/81 "2020-08-02T11:05:58Z")

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