# Dual Tank Astero dies to Heron

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dual-tank-astero-dies-to-heron/258060>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Tags:** pvp\
**Created:** [August 2, 2020, 4:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dual-tank-astero-dies-to-heron/258060 "2020-08-02T04:17:44Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/archer_en_tilavine/32/461718_2.png) [@Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Archer_en_Tilavine)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2020, 11:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dual-tank-astero-dies-to-heron/258060/82 "2020-08-02T11:06:50Z")

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Do you not remember the EVEmail you sent me? Check your sent EVEmails

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2020, 11:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dual-tank-astero-dies-to-heron/258060/83 "2020-08-02T11:08:01Z")

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Oh, wow.

Yeah, definitely not my proudest moment.

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**Author:** ![Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/archer_en_tilavine/32/461718_2.png) [@Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Archer_en_Tilavine)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2020, 11:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dual-tank-astero-dies-to-heron/258060/84 "2020-08-02T11:08:53Z")

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PM me on Discord… we need to talk… and it’s not EVE related 🤔

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2020, 11:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dual-tank-astero-dies-to-heron/258060/85 "2020-08-02T11:19:25Z")

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Can we like, _not_ talk about it? I’ve been hitting the rattlesnake powder pretty hard, sure, but I’ve been following the rules otherwise, and feel like I deserve a break…

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**Author:** ![Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/archer_en_tilavine/32/461718_2.png) [@Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Archer_en_Tilavine)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2020, 11:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dual-tank-astero-dies-to-heron/258060/86 "2020-08-02T11:23:02Z")

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😔🤷‍♂️

You know how to reach me

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**Author:** ![Brun\_Warbear](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brun_warbear/32/380353_2.png) [@Brun\_Warbear](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brun_Warbear)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2020, 11:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dual-tank-astero-dies-to-heron/258060/87 "2020-08-02T11:35:06Z")

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> [@Path\_Starbreaker](#):
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> I just loaded the paste into the armor repair thing for the first time… and set it to auto reload and to overload… I feel invincible.

This may have already been covered but generally you do not want your ancillaries to auto-reload. It takes a minute, which is often longer than the duration of a frigate brawl. During that minute the module is useless.

Better to have the reduced heal than no heal in most cases.

If you take the ancillary off auto cycle and off auto reload and just use it when you really need it the “ammo” should last the fight and if now you still have the reduced effectiveness which is better than nothing.

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**Author:** ![Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/archer_en_tilavine/32/461718_2.png) [@Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Archer_en_Tilavine)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2020, 11:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dual-tank-astero-dies-to-heron/258060/88 "2020-08-02T11:37:36Z")

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> [@Path\_Starbreaker](#):
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> I just loaded the paste into the armor repair thing for the first time… and set it to auto reload and to overload… I feel invincible.

Not sure if you meant “autoreload” or “autorepeat”. When it comes to ancillary armor repairers and ancillary shield boosters, autoreload is almost always _ **acceptable** _, but autorepeat is almost always a horrible idea.

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**Author:** ![Surly\_Bill](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/surly_bill/32/221329_2.png) [@Surly\_Bill](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Surly_Bill)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2020, 1:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dual-tank-astero-dies-to-heron/258060/89 "2020-08-02T13:12:22Z")

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You’re ready for pvp bro, keep at it. Go to zkillboard and look at other PVP’rs fits and what they are killing with them.

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**Author:** ![Kezrai\_Charzai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kezrai_charzai/32/394578_2.png) [@Kezrai\_Charzai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kezrai_Charzai)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2020, 1:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dual-tank-astero-dies-to-heron/258060/90 "2020-08-02T13:20:51Z")

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I may be remembering incorrectly, but it seems to me that about a couple months ago there was a similar thread about somebody trying a PvP run and getting nuked by a Heron?

So don’t feel too suckered, it happen, it’s a learning experience, you even turned it into a learning experience for other people as well with this thread. As long as you can afford the loss, all’s good.

At any rate, good thread, good try, and just a reminder of the rock-paper-scissors nature of EVE PvP.

(PS: There’ll probably be a half-dozen guys out trying ‘Astero-baiting’ fits for the next week or two, so best be ready for that.)

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**Author:** ![Daoden](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daoden/32/271841_2.png) [@Daoden](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daoden)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2020, 3:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dual-tank-astero-dies-to-heron/258060/91 "2020-08-02T15:22:43Z")

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Also @Path_Starbreaker if your on grid with a heron again and cloaked up, look at their ship, you can see gun and missile modules on the hull, if you see them you know its armed and ready to fight, if you see none its most likely not ready for fighting.

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**Author:** ![Path\_Starbreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/path_starbreaker/32/221571_2.png) [@Path\_Starbreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Path_Starbreaker)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2020, 3:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dual-tank-astero-dies-to-heron/258060/92 "2020-08-02T15:40:46Z")

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Thanks for the tips. Woke up and feel optimistic. I lost a lot of isk but I learned so much from that loss. Thinking about practicing in a high sec combat site with drone hot keys to pull them back before they die and managing cap correctly.

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**Author:** ![Solecist\_Project](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solecist_project/32/479741_2.png) [@Solecist\_Project](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solecist_Project)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2020, 3:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dual-tank-astero-dies-to-heron/258060/93 "2020-08-02T15:44:14Z")

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> [@Path\_Starbreaker](#):
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> Not sure hat the lesson is other than I am not ready for pvp.

If you had won, you’d be writing the opposite …  
… which means that your conclusion is nonsense.

It would be nonsense either way. Encouraged by a win, discouraged by a loss,  
without actually having enough data for a proper conclusion.

Grow smarter instead of tucking your tail in.

Go try again.

PS: Ive only read the first post.

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**Author:** ![Dravick\_Afterthought](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dravick_afterthought/32/282017_2.png) [@Dravick\_Afterthought](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dravick_Afterthought)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2020, 5:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dual-tank-astero-dies-to-heron/258060/94 "2020-08-02T17:32:02Z")

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Watch out for Herons…

I went after one at a Data site in our wormhole. Turned out all he had fitted was Scram, Web and tank. The Sabre that then decloaked, however, was another matter…

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2020, 8:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dual-tank-astero-dies-to-heron/258060/95 "2020-08-02T20:49:00Z")

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> [@Daoden](#):
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> modules on the hull, if you see them you know its armed and ready to fight, if you see none its most likely not ready for fighting.

I can’t stand using those hot keys. You need to have your focus in the proper place, and not like a chat window or something. What we need is on-screen UI buttons for drone control.

> [@Solecist\_Project](#):
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> Ive only read the first post.

Found your issue there, chief.

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**Author:** ![Jesoph\_Swolin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jesoph_swolin/32/383423_2.png) [@Jesoph\_Swolin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jesoph_Swolin)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2020, 9:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dual-tank-astero-dies-to-heron/258060/96 "2020-08-02T21:33:13Z")

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> [@Path\_Starbreaker](#):
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> Well, this is an expensive lesson. Not sure hat the lesson is other than I am not ready for pvp.

Just go play Faction Wars in frigates for half a year and you’ll learn all the lessons cheap. I went there immediately after completing the tutorials and I did perfectly fine. Finding people who are willing to share their knowledge also helps. Gives you new ideas you can experience. I’d be there doing smallgang or solo stuff if I didn’t desire to help the highsec people with their trig problem.

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2020, 2:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dual-tank-astero-dies-to-heron/258060/97 "2020-08-03T02:38:54Z")

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> [@Path\_Starbreaker](#):
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> Relic Analyzer II

That’s not a very useful PvP module.

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**Author:** ![Foggy\_Bernstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/foggy_bernstein/32/407887_2.png) [@Foggy\_Bernstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Foggy_Bernstein)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2020, 2:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dual-tank-astero-dies-to-heron/258060/98 "2020-08-03T02:52:09Z")

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> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#):
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> That’s not a very useful PvP module.

You are truly one of the most helpful personalities in the EVE-O forum. What a champ.

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**Author:** ![Foggy\_Bernstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/foggy_bernstein/32/407887_2.png) [@Foggy\_Bernstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Foggy_Bernstein)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2020, 2:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dual-tank-astero-dies-to-heron/258060/100 "2020-08-03T02:56:18Z")

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Of course!

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2020, 3:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dual-tank-astero-dies-to-heron/258060/101 "2020-08-03T03:04:15Z")

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I wish you sold other types of permits for those of us who don’t mine…

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**Author:** ![Foggy\_Bernstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/foggy_bernstein/32/407887_2.png) [@Foggy\_Bernstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Foggy_Bernstein)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2020, 3:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dual-tank-astero-dies-to-heron/258060/102 "2020-08-03T03:07:50Z")

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What a razor sharp wit you have.

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