# Duels, even the dictionary says 1 v 1. I don't understand CCP **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [June 11, 2018, 1:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/duels-even-the-dictionary-says-1-v-1-i-dont-understand-ccp/82000 "2018-06-11T01:51:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Darquies\_Shade](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darquies_shade/32/410887_2.png) [@Darquies\_Shade](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Darquies_Shade)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2018, 1:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/duels-even-the-dictionary-says-1-v-1-i-dont-understand-ccp/82000/1 "2018-06-11T01:51:54Z")
Now before I go on this journey, I will not: A. name the cowardly punk who “pussed” out and brought a remote repping alt to the duel in Rens. B. Did not lose my ship, as I noss’d him enough to kill his systems and was able to warp away. C. will keep this rant to a low volume since him or I didn’t really lost jack but a couple of drones now when typing for the “definition of duel” in google this is what comes up: du·el ˈd(y)o͞oəl/ nounhistorical noun: duel; plural noun: duels 1. a contest with deadly weapons arranged between two people in order to settle a point of honor. CCP it seems to me that ever since I have played your wonderful(not sarcastic) game, you continuously put more and more stuff in the game where on the surface looks like you want honor and integrity put back into PVP and such. but after pulling back the layers more and more, it would just seem that these mechanics you put into your game becomes a “swindaler’s dream” ---
**Author:** ![Ildrara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ildrara/32/56659_2.png) [@Ildrara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ildrara)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2018, 2:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/duels-even-the-dictionary-says-1-v-1-i-dont-understand-ccp/82000/2 "2018-06-11T02:07:40Z")
> [@Darquies\_Shade](#): > > swindaler’s While you are digging in the dictionary you should look up what you type. ---
**Author:** ![Buoytender\_Bob](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/buoytender_bob/32/374377_2.png) [@Buoytender\_Bob](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Buoytender_Bob)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2018, 2:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/duels-even-the-dictionary-says-1-v-1-i-dont-understand-ccp/82000/3 "2018-06-11T02:12:45Z")
After dragging this issue through the help channel in game for 20 minutes, you decided to continue in here… Well, at least in here is the right place. Don’t let the windmill knock you off your mount during your upcoming quest for establishing fairness and honor in EVE. Best of luck. ---
**Author:** ![Darquies\_Shade](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darquies_shade/32/410887_2.png) [@Darquies\_Shade](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Darquies_Shade)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2018, 2:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/duels-even-the-dictionary-says-1-v-1-i-dont-understand-ccp/82000/4 "2018-06-11T02:23:34Z")
yea I just couldn’t wrap my head around the fact duel is not that in the case of eve. and really 20 min? lol as for Don quotie(there ya go Iidrara did I spell it right :D) just because you don’t see the wind doesn’t mean it can’t hurt you. ---
**Author:** ![Buggs\_LeRoach](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/buggs_leroach/32/376676_2.png) [@Buggs\_LeRoach](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Buggs_LeRoach)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2018, 2:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/duels-even-the-dictionary-says-1-v-1-i-dont-understand-ccp/82000/5 "2018-06-11T02:57:59Z")
13 years in this game you never realized eve players cheat and scam you must close local any time you go to jita … ---
**Author:** ![Votineque](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/votineque/32/380137_2.png) [@Votineque](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Votineque)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2018, 3:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/duels-even-the-dictionary-says-1-v-1-i-dont-understand-ccp/82000/6 "2018-06-11T03:06:51Z")
Disable the duel function in settings, there is no honor or fairness in Eve. If you think there is, you’ve already lost. ---
**Author:** ![Yozo\_Ellec0n](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yozo_ellec0n/32/348583_2.png) [@Yozo\_Ellec0n](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yozo_Ellec0n)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2018, 3:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/duels-even-the-dictionary-says-1-v-1-i-dont-understand-ccp/82000/7 "2018-06-11T03:12:10Z")
Bring homies and blast his logi next time. Don’t be a puss yourself. ---
**Author:** ![Luigi\_mon-de-sound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/luigi_mon-de-sound/32/422750_2.png) [@Luigi\_mon-de-sound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Luigi_mon-de-sound)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2018, 3:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/duels-even-the-dictionary-says-1-v-1-i-dont-understand-ccp/82000/10 "2018-06-11T03:45:09Z")
I thought remote assistance on a dueled player caused that remoter to incure suspect status… ---
**Author:** ![Darquies\_Shade](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darquies_shade/32/410887_2.png) [@Darquies\_Shade](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Darquies_Shade)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2018, 3:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/duels-even-the-dictionary-says-1-v-1-i-dont-understand-ccp/82000/11 "2018-06-11T03:47:59Z")
> [@Yozo\_Ellec0n](#): > > Bring homies and blast his logi next time. > Don’t be a puss yourself. gots to have friends in order to bring friends. > [@Luigi\_mon-de-sound](#): > > I thought remote assistance on a dueled player caused that remoter to incure suspect status… it prolly does, I wasn’t worring about him, I was dealing with the blaster fitted mega. I am just wonderin why its allowed in the first place, but hey leson learned. > [@Buggs\_LeRoach](#): > > 13 years in this game you never realized eve players cheat and scam you must close local any time you go to jita … I have no idea where you are getting this, but thanx for the reply? > [@Votineque](#): > > Disable the duel function in settings, there is no honor or fairness in Eve. > If you think there is, you’ve already lost. yep, your words ring true. . . Sad but true. ---
**Author:** ![Yozo\_Ellec0n](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yozo_ellec0n/32/348583_2.png) [@Yozo\_Ellec0n](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yozo_Ellec0n)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2018, 5:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/duels-even-the-dictionary-says-1-v-1-i-dont-understand-ccp/82000/12 "2018-06-11T05:37:37Z")
Then make some friends. EVE is an MMO. ---
**Author:** ![Noragen\_Neirfallas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/noragen_neirfallas/32/375148_2.png) [@Noragen\_Neirfallas](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Noragen_Neirfallas)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2018, 5:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/duels-even-the-dictionary-says-1-v-1-i-dont-understand-ccp/82000/13 "2018-06-11T05:45:37Z")
Wait you haven’t taken the time to learn mechanics in the last 6 years… Haven’t made a friend in game in 13 and for some reason haven’t worked out there is no fair in eve… But you were able to work out how to and where to post this… I smell a troll tbh ---
**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2018, 6:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/duels-even-the-dictionary-says-1-v-1-i-dont-understand-ccp/82000/14 "2018-06-11T06:02:37Z")
I really don’t see the problem here? Because the mechanic as it is allows perfectly well for what you describe as “honourable duel”. It however does not magically insulate you or your enemy from the rest of EVE, because why should it do that? It also does not force your enemy to be “honourable” if he does not want to. If you want to do a “honourable duel” then maybe find someone you trust first and inform yourself how the game mechanics around that work. ---
**Author:** ![Sere\_O\_Asis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sere_o_asis/32/374997_2.png) [@Sere\_O\_Asis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sere_O_Asis)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2018, 6:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/duels-even-the-dictionary-says-1-v-1-i-dont-understand-ccp/82000/15 "2018-06-11T06:11:21Z")
I would like to point out there are a few players, myself included, who like to fly their logi ships, occasionally, and 3rd party in on other player’s fights. There have been a lot of neutral alt repper comments lately, in various threads, discussing player’s who use an _alt_ to rep them during a fight. I want to point out it is not always the opposition’s alts. Sometimes, it’s someone like me, just out flying around, looking to busybody. 🙂 Last year, I flew around as Sinq Laison Fire and Rescue, and “joined in” on a number of occasions. It’s fun. You see a fight, maybe someone says something in local, and you make a snap decision on who to support, and you rep them. You can be the hero(ine) and the villain(ess) all in one encounter. A genuine chaos agent, and I am very glad the game allows for this. ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2018, 6:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/duels-even-the-dictionary-says-1-v-1-i-dont-understand-ccp/82000/16 "2018-06-11T06:36:36Z")
> [@Darquies\_Shade](#): > > name the cowardly punk who “pussed” out and brought a remote repping alt to the duel > in Rens That doesn’t make him a “puss”, but your statement makes you look like a loser. In real life, if he had won, you would be dead, without the opportunity to call him a “puss”. Kudos, though, for beating him even with a repper. Still, if he had won you would have whined like a little girl. ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2018, 6:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/duels-even-the-dictionary-says-1-v-1-i-dont-understand-ccp/82000/17 "2018-06-11T06:41:13Z")
> [@Darquies\_Shade](#): > > honor and integrity put back into PVP This part made me laugh. : D EVE is a lot like real life in these regards, and real life is not the fantasy world you live in. ---
**Author:** ![Black\_Pedro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/black_pedro/32/257285_2.png) [@Black\_Pedro](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Black_Pedro)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2018, 7:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/duels-even-the-dictionary-says-1-v-1-i-dont-understand-ccp/82000/18 "2018-06-11T07:38:53Z")
> [@Solstice\_Projekt](#): > > > honor and integrity put back into PVP > > This part made me laugh. : D Here’s a thought for you OP. Can you have real honour and integrity if such things are forced by the game mechanics? Those things have to be earned by actions, and if you have no choice but to respect the sanctity of a duel by divine game mechanics, can it be said that you are truly honourable? After all, there isn’t anything else you could do - you know, free will and all that. I think duels are fine as @Ima_Wreckyou said. They do allow two honourable combatants to turn off their CONCORD protection and settle their differences on the field of battle. What they don’t do is create a magical bubble outside the game universe where you are immune to the actions of the other players. I mean, in a game where anyone can intrude on your game experience and explode you at anytime, how could it be any other way? Someone can crash your duel, or your opponent can be dishonourable. That’s life in the sandbox. If you absolutely must have a private, 1v1, take it to the test server. ---
**Author:** ![NotTheSmartestCookie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/notthesmartestcookie/32/168266_2.png) [@NotTheSmartestCookie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/NotTheSmartestCookie)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2018, 8:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/duels-even-the-dictionary-says-1-v-1-i-dont-understand-ccp/82000/19 "2018-06-11T08:56:35Z")
If you have been paying attention you will have noticed that the Abysmal dungeon system probably also covers 80% of the work on implementing an arena system. Honorable 1v1 or 5v5 coming to EVE soon™. ---
**Author:** ![Poleander](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/poleander/32/77194_2.png) [@Poleander](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Poleander)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2018, 9:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/duels-even-the-dictionary-says-1-v-1-i-dont-understand-ccp/82000/20 "2018-06-11T09:37:27Z")
EVE is a game played by people. People are a\*\*holes. See where you went wrong expecting ‘honor’ in this? ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2018, 10:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/duels-even-the-dictionary-says-1-v-1-i-dont-understand-ccp/82000/21 "2018-06-11T10:33:53Z")
Reddit would be all over this. In a negative way, though, as they should be. The one thing I like about our reddit community … … is that they drown out all the carebears … … which is why they are here instead. ---
**Author:** ![Trevor\_Dalech](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/trevor_dalech/32/410287_2.png) [@Trevor\_Dalech](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Trevor_Dalech)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2018, 1:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/duels-even-the-dictionary-says-1-v-1-i-dont-understand-ccp/82000/22 "2018-06-11T13:03:41Z")
If someone bring neutral reps, still only two people are using deadly weapons, so they still conform to the dictionary definition. Also, historically, it wasn’t uncommon for duelists to bring friends (if possible with medical training) along to patch up their wounds afterwards in case they get non-fatally shot or stabbed. [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/duels-even-the-dictionary-says-1-v-1-i-dont-understand-ccp/82000.md?page=2)