# Dumb choices and bad breaks that have cost you your mission boat **URL:** \ **Category:** Missions\ **Created:** [September 22, 2019, 4:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dumb-choices-and-bad-breaks-that-have-cost-you-your-mission-boat/191786 "2019-09-22T16:49:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Valiran\_Teleros](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/valiran_teleros/32/504787_2.png) [@Valiran\_Teleros](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Valiran_Teleros)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2019, 11:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dumb-choices-and-bad-breaks-that-have-cost-you-your-mission-boat/191786/21 "2019-09-25T23:23:21Z")
> [@Tyber\_Zhann](#): > > From killing carebear myrmidons it looks like You need to harvest the components from Sleeper sites, which is PvE. I find it hypocritical to hate people that do PvE while flying a ship that requires PvE to exist in the first place. And in what way am I a carebear? I swear, that term has lost all meaning with how often it gets thrown around. > [@Saint\_Michaels\_Soul](#): > > Sorry for your loss… but: Thanks, and it’s not like losing the ship was unexpected. Lowsec is dangerous, news at eleven! > [@Saint\_Michaels\_Soul](#): > > - A Myrmidon can permatank any t3d forever, if fit correctly Wait, really? I knew he was going to kick my ass because I had a mission fit, but I didn’t know Myrms could be that tough! Could you link the fit? I might not be able to use it right away, but it’s something I’d love to know how to do. > [@Saint\_Michaels\_Soul](#): > > - The Hecate is not blingy, trust me, that’s a 30m fit we use regularly Every time I’ve seen a Hecate in action it’s torn the opposing ship to pieces, so I’m not keen to fight someone who flies one and knows what they’re doing, _especially_ when I’m in a mission fit. > [@Saint\_Michaels\_Soul](#): > > - You come into Lowsec, an active warzone, you should prepare to be attacked The first time I used a gate to lowsec (first week) I ended up dying to a gatecamp, so that’s a lesson I learned early on. It’s not the fact that he blew me up in the first place, but the reason he did it that angered me. _(puts on melodramatic hat)_ Piracy? It’s EvE, it happens. Suicide ganking? That’s just having fun. Singing ransoms? Weird flex, but OK. Gatekeeping? ![you_disgust_me](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/b/a/ba65409fe8cc0f94daf89006094ce11b7e750662.png) (takes off melodramatic hat) Seriously though, it’s the guy’s attitude that riled me up, not losing my ship. Gatekeeping isn’t good for any community; better to invite people in and see for themselves if they like it. If they do, great! If not, wish them good luck in finding something they enjoy. Just my opinion.🙂 > [@Saint\_Michaels\_Soul](#): > > Eve Uni are super but don’t always give the prep talk they should and due to their large numbers, we’ve got them set to Orange and we’ll shoot them on sight. I’ve got no problem with that. I have difficulty finding time to attend the classes anyway. Reality has its own classes that require attendance, you see. > [@Saint\_Michaels\_Soul](#): > > Finally, why not try out faction warfare for a little while, we’d be happy to have you, to teach you pvp and how to defend yourself a little better with fits. I’m not exactly eager to get involved with FW due to the massive standing hits it would give me, but thanks for the offer! > [@Muhfukka\_Jones](#): > > Learn to fly a little PVP. It’s fun. You’ll never ask why we shoot on sight again. There’s “shoot on sight” and then there’s lying in ambush, I’m don’t understand how your advice is applicable here. Could you clarify? > [@Muhfukka\_Jones](#): > > Also, if you’re crying about someone clubbing baby seals, you might be the baby seal, lol No kidding, I expect any of you guys would kick my ass in anything approaching a straight fight! 😝 In the end, I try to follow [the Tao of ZF](https://clips.twitch.tv/AverageWonderfulToadBuddhaBar): it’s a PvP game, I _will_ get blown up and lose expensive ships, so it’s better to just chill out and enjoy myself. Mind you, actually _achieving_ that mindset is easier said than done… ---
**Author:** ![Lucian\_Lockard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lucian_lockard/32/492776_2.png) [@Lucian\_Lockard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lucian_Lockard)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2019, 11:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dumb-choices-and-bad-breaks-that-have-cost-you-your-mission-boat/191786/22 "2019-09-25T23:35:00Z")
[![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/a/4a29e5501c1f31787fc5db4d45301a6cf3d4da47.gif) ](http://giphygifs.s3.amazonaws.com/media/1smfr4gYuuDgk/giphy.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Lucian\_Lockard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lucian_lockard/32/492776_2.png) [@Lucian\_Lockard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lucian_Lockard)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2019, 11:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dumb-choices-and-bad-breaks-that-have-cost-you-your-mission-boat/191786/23 "2019-09-25T23:35:45Z")
love the salt keep it coming carebear ---
**Author:** ![Valiran\_Teleros](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/valiran_teleros/32/504787_2.png) [@Valiran\_Teleros](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Valiran_Teleros)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2019, 11:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dumb-choices-and-bad-breaks-that-have-cost-you-your-mission-boat/191786/24 "2019-09-25T23:54:15Z")
> [@Lucian\_Lockard](#): > > ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/a/4a29e5501c1f31787fc5db4d45301a6cf3d4da47.gif) Your image is broke- never mind, you fixed it. Also, _thank you_ for reminding me how weird those little guys are. Seriously, midget teddy bears that fire love-rays from a tattoo on their stomachs. When were they invented, the sixties? _(looks them up)_ 1. Huh. …at least they’re not Teletubbies. (shudder) > [@Lucian\_Lockard](#): > > love the salt keep it coming carebear Sure, why not? Do you mind taking the time to explain your grudge against people who do PvE? (Presuming you weren’t just saying that to rile me up in the first place) ---
**Author:** ![Zenour\_Noud](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zenour_noud/32/427489_2.png) [@Zenour\_Noud](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zenour_Noud)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2019, 11:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dumb-choices-and-bad-breaks-that-have-cost-you-your-mission-boat/191786/25 "2019-09-25T23:58:35Z")
Where has my thread gone? :facepalm: ---
**Author:** ![Valiran\_Teleros](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/valiran_teleros/32/504787_2.png) [@Valiran\_Teleros](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Valiran_Teleros)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2019, 11:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dumb-choices-and-bad-breaks-that-have-cost-you-your-mission-boat/191786/26 "2019-09-25T23:59:55Z")
Yeah, sorry for the derail. I’ll take this to somewhere else if you want. ---
**Author:** ![Lucian\_Lockard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lucian_lockard/32/492776_2.png) [@Lucian\_Lockard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lucian_Lockard)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2019, 1:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dumb-choices-and-bad-breaks-that-have-cost-you-your-mission-boat/191786/27 "2019-09-26T01:09:37Z")
another carebear crying lols ---
**Author:** ![Valiran\_Teleros](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/valiran_teleros/32/504787_2.png) [@Valiran\_Teleros](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Valiran_Teleros)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2019, 3:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dumb-choices-and-bad-breaks-that-have-cost-you-your-mission-boat/191786/28 "2019-09-26T03:39:12Z")
Hey, Lucian, have you tried not being a jerk? I think you could benefit from it. Anyway, @Zenour_Noud, as an apology for derailing your thread I’ll share some other unfortunate and dumb losses that I’ve suffered since beginning EvE. My very first loss. > **[Vexor | Valiran Teleros | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/77291415/)** > > Valiran Teleros (University of Caille) lost their Vexor in Eytjangard (Metropolis). Final Blow by Tristan daCuhna (Dirt 'n' Glitter) flying in a Orthrus. Total Value: 11,644,103.67 ISK Two weeks on the dot from the day I started playing, and my second or third venture into lowsec. I didn’t anticipate getting jumped at an NPC combat site because there’s a difference between knowing _intellectually_ that EvE is a rough-and-tumble game and actually experiencing it for myself. The next one is equal parts sad and hilarious, because I _really_ should have known better. > **[Vexor | Valiran Teleros | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/77293669/)** > > Valiran Teleros (University of Caille) lost their Vexor in Old Man Star (Essence). Final Blow by Skaldenwei (Soul Takers) flying in a Loki. Total Value: 12,122,675.11 ISK Same day as Tristan got me, I take another Vexor out to look for combat anomalies. Having disabled the alert letting me know I was heading into lowsec, I don’t pay attention to where I’m going and end up at a drone site in Old Man’s Star. As I’m cheerfully blowing up Rogue Drones with my own drones, I see Hoshiko warp in and realize what a fool I was. What happened next is something that you’d expect to see in a comedy skit and will therefore be presented as such: > Me: CRAPCRAPCRAP I need to get awaAAAARGH SHE SCRAMMED ME! Hoshiko begins shooting, and I decide that I’m not going to go down without a fight. > Me: To hell with it, _have at thee, woman!_ Battle commences, the two of us orbiting each other as she rips into my ship and I return fire with my drones. After a few seconds of resigning myself to yet _another_ avoidable death I see that Hoshiko’s armor level dropping faster than mine. I began to feel a glimmer of hope. > Me: Wow, I might actually win this fi- > > (three of her friends warp in, piloting a Succubus, a Deimos, and a god-damned _Loki_) > > Me: ■■■■ > > (BOOM) _Yes_, I actually said that out loud; _yes_, that’s how the fight actually played out; and I consider what happened next to be proof positive that fate is _always_ listening, and loves to inflict misfortune on whoever is dumb enough to taunt her with lines like that. The next one…honestly this is probably the stupidest thing I’ve done in the entire game. > **[Vexor Navy Issue | Valiran Teleros | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/78049522/)** > > Valiran Teleros (EVE University) lost their Vexor Navy Issue in Vecamia (Genesis). Final Blow by Doctor Schutz (WunderWorld Enterprise) flying in a Devoter. Total Value: 163,057,903.74 ISK I brought a mission-fit VNI into lowsec, _without using gatecheck_, _ **and one of my modules was worth over 100 million ISK** _. Let the mockery commence. ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/8/b/8b29da5998772c395304abef66bfbeff9cb2f99e.gif) This loss actually caused my first ever ragequit in an MMO, and I couldn’t even look at my computer for the rest of the day. Suffice it to say that this is one mistake I will _never_ be making again unless I’m suffering from acute sleep deprivation. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2019, 6:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dumb-choices-and-bad-breaks-that-have-cost-you-your-mission-boat/191786/29 "2019-09-26T06:57:15Z")
It no longer is nor in fact ever was your thread. 😛 Welcome to EVE! :dealwithitparrot: Also 🍿 😈 ---
**Author:** ![Kamai\_en\_Bauldry](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kamai_en_bauldry/32/221735_2.png) [@Kamai\_en\_Bauldry](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kamai_en_Bauldry)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2019, 5:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dumb-choices-and-bad-breaks-that-have-cost-you-your-mission-boat/191786/30 "2019-09-26T17:38:49Z")
> **[Gnosis | Kamai en Bauldry | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/78859946/)** > > Kamai en Bauldry (Raphidophora) lost their Gnosis in Evati (Metropolis). Final Blow by Evilelmo (Mea Culpa.) flying in a Ikitursa. Total Value: 41,997,697.04 ISK I had already lost a couple of mining ships that weekend to low-sec ganks (and fended off a couple others), so I thought “Why don’t I go missioning for Boundless Creation?”. Of course level 3s are in low-sec, and the one that I did sent me to fw space. I didn’t take mind to the people in local, and then as I start the second pocket, here come 3 ships. I swear I didn’t see combat probes go up. I couldn’t get through any of the ships and just died. Was really frustrated, but definitely my fault. ---
**Author:** ![ISD\_Norros](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_norros/32/249084_2.png) [@ISD\_Norros](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Norros)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2019, 5:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dumb-choices-and-bad-breaks-that-have-cost-you-your-mission-boat/191786/31 "2019-09-26T17:53:06Z")
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