# Eclipse - Quadrant 2 is Coming to EVE Online! **URL:** \ **Category:** Announcements\ **Tags:** official\ **Created:** [April 2, 2020, 2:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eclipse-quadrant-2-is-coming-to-eve-online/229389 "2020-04-02T14:19:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![Darlo\_Kubika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darlo_kubika/32/178136_2.png) [@Darlo\_Kubika](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Darlo_Kubika)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2020, 11:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eclipse-quadrant-2-is-coming-to-eve-online/229389/191 "2020-04-03T11:39:41Z")
Denying the player loss and repeating the ‘all is well’ prayer didn’t help for the last 3 years and will not help now… The player loss is real and MORE PVP will NOT help it…the OPPOSITE should be done… But the bittervets don’t want this… Which WILL kill the game sooner or later(more sooner). ---
**Author:** ![Ysonoko\_Lelexandrian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ysonoko_lelexandrian/32/188953_2.png) [@Ysonoko\_Lelexandrian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ysonoko_Lelexandrian)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2020, 11:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eclipse-quadrant-2-is-coming-to-eve-online/229389/192 "2020-04-03T11:44:14Z")
Would have been nice to get some info on the twitch stream after the reveal. Gonna be fun playing on my main account for free this year. Thanks for the alpha clone state CCP. I don’t even have to pay subscription to play this game and get rich. ---
**Author:** ![Nevyn\_Auscent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevyn_auscent/32/255124_2.png) [@Nevyn\_Auscent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nevyn_Auscent)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2020, 11:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eclipse-quadrant-2-is-coming-to-eve-online/229389/193 "2020-04-03T11:52:10Z")
I love how you dodged actually admitting that the PCU graph shows that the count has not been constantly dropping and was going up from late last year prior to all the lockdowns. And instead went right back to posting your rumour mongering falsehoods. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2020, 11:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eclipse-quadrant-2-is-coming-to-eve-online/229389/194 "2020-04-03T11:58:13Z")
He’s scared someone is going to burst the bubble that he lives in. In before he accuses me of stalking him, again. ---
**Author:** ![Wadiest\_Yong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wadiest_yong/32/426921_2.png) [@Wadiest\_Yong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wadiest_Yong)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2020, 12:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eclipse-quadrant-2-is-coming-to-eve-online/229389/195 "2020-04-03T12:04:38Z")
It helps if you translate all the doom and gloom prophecies of that particular part of pve players to “help, i don’t know how to play and am not flexible enough to adjust and adapt”. All this nervousness because of a teaser/trailer ? Priceless and predictable. Anyone remember the Wizard’s First Rule ? ---
**Author:** ![Aramatheia](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aramatheia/32/383412_2.png) [@Aramatheia](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aramatheia)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2020, 12:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eclipse-quadrant-2-is-coming-to-eve-online/229389/196 "2020-04-03T12:04:44Z")
> [@Solstice\_Projekt](#): > > > [@Norrin\_Ellis](#): > > > > “New and unprecedented changes” is a nice euphemism for “we’re going to ruin everything you like about EVE.” > > No. They’re ruining everything _carebears and farmers_ like about EVE. > Personally, I _love_ these changes! > > They’re finally moving the game back where it belongs. something something a wave of forum vomit onto people who dont play to your exact style. Which is what, null sec fuelled by bot fleets of 24/7 miners. Why do you hate yourself so much? ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2020, 12:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eclipse-quadrant-2-is-coming-to-eve-online/229389/197 "2020-04-03T12:07:47Z")
@Solstice_Projekt is a hisec miner, with a sideline in wardeccing others for mining what he considers to be his ore or having a structure where he wants to place his. /hides. > [@Wadiest\_Yong](#): > > Anyone remember the Wizard’s First Rule Remember to put on your cloak and wizard hat? ---
**Author:** ![Wadiest\_Yong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wadiest_yong/32/426921_2.png) [@Wadiest\_Yong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wadiest_Yong)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2020, 12:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eclipse-quadrant-2-is-coming-to-eve-online/229389/198 "2020-04-03T12:17:00Z")
leather flying helmet and goggles when i cloak up 😁 that rule states that people tend to believe what they’re most afraid of, especially the worst things they dream up themselves. That is also the polite version of the rule. ---
**Author:** ![Vale46](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vale46/32/216494_2.png) [@Vale46](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vale46)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2020, 12:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eclipse-quadrant-2-is-coming-to-eve-online/229389/199 "2020-04-03T12:18:21Z")
What a fantastic way to promote mining bots! If that’s what they want, they’ll succeed. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2020, 12:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eclipse-quadrant-2-is-coming-to-eve-online/229389/200 "2020-04-03T12:20:10Z")
Seriously though. People are stupid; given proper motivation, almost anyone will believe almost anything. Because people are stupid, they will believe a lie because they want to believe it’s true, or because they are afraid it might be true. Although I prefer Pratchett to Goodkind. A wizard without a hat is just a sad man with a suspicious taste in clothes; which takes us back to my initial reply 😛 Also, a person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals. ---
**Author:** ![zen-spfarm-002\_LSG](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zen-spfarm-002_lsg/32/195274_2.png) [@zen-spfarm-002\_LSG](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/zen-spfarm-002_LSG)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2020, 12:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eclipse-quadrant-2-is-coming-to-eve-online/229389/203 "2020-04-03T12:27:08Z")
> [@Wadiest\_Yong](#): > > It helps if you translate all the doom and gloom prophecies of that particular part of pve players to “help, i don’t know how to play and am not flexible enough to adjust and adapt”. All this nervousness because of a teaser/trailer ? Priceless and predictable. The only problem is that ccp also needs their subscription money, not just yours. ---
**Author:** ![Wadiest\_Yong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wadiest_yong/32/426921_2.png) [@Wadiest\_Yong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wadiest_Yong)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2020, 12:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eclipse-quadrant-2-is-coming-to-eve-online/229389/204 "2020-04-03T12:33:56Z")
That is true. The difficult part is that the very vocal part of the community is so polarized that whatever the devs do, with the best of intentions and plans, it results in shouting, threats or announcements of canceling subs, etc, on both “sides”. Personally I don’t favor pve nor pvp, I do both in more than one aspect and can’t even understand why someone would be locked into a single aspect. When I don’t know how to deal with the new curve ball ccp throws I do another part of the game until I think I’ve found a solution or the group I’m associated with found one. ---
**Author:** ![Ysonoko\_Lelexandrian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ysonoko_lelexandrian/32/188953_2.png) [@Ysonoko\_Lelexandrian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ysonoko_Lelexandrian)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2020, 12:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eclipse-quadrant-2-is-coming-to-eve-online/229389/205 "2020-04-03T12:43:26Z")
“Locking” one’s self into a particular activity is usually to focus on grinding one type of content. Like missions, null ratting, gate ganking, relic site running/ganking, or even mining. Spreading yourself across many activities isn’t impossible. It’s just usually better to pick one or two activities to specialize in for making isk, or just having some fun. Myself, I like to mine for relaxing, go do trig invasions or abyss, sometimes I even like to run level 4 missions just for the salvage and LP. But, I couldn’t imagine spreading myself much further than that. Even with just those few activities, it’s difficult to spread myself over them. ---
**Author:** ![Knowledgeminer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/knowledgeminer/32/422883_2.png) [@Knowledgeminer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Knowledgeminer)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2020, 12:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eclipse-quadrant-2-is-coming-to-eve-online/229389/206 "2020-04-03T12:48:33Z")
Hey @Darlo_Kubika, this post is just to let you know that just because most of us cannot even be bothered to read your diatribes most of the time, much less care to reply, that doesn’t mean we don’t think you’re a repugnant person. And just to be clear, what makes you repugnant aren’t your “opinions”. What makes you repugnant is that you cannot refrain yourself from spamming these forums pretending the game should be changed for everyone and turned into something else entirely different, just because you happen to not like it, when you could simply go play some other game you like instead, which is what any sane person in your situation would do… ---
**Author:** ![Lugburz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugburz/32/486230_2.png) [@Lugburz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugburz)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2020, 1:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eclipse-quadrant-2-is-coming-to-eve-online/229389/207 "2020-04-03T13:01:06Z")
> [@Wadiest\_Yong](#): > > Wizard’s First Rule Get my wizard hat and cloak? ---
**Author:** ![Irina\_Gatekeeper](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/irina_gatekeeper/32/480447_2.png) [@Irina\_Gatekeeper](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Irina_Gatekeeper)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2020, 3:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eclipse-quadrant-2-is-coming-to-eve-online/229389/208 "2020-04-03T15:02:32Z")
Eclipse - Quadrant 2 , ok ! But, what is Quadrant, and why Quadrant 2 ? There should be a Quadrant 1 ? ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2020, 3:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eclipse-quadrant-2-is-coming-to-eve-online/229389/209 "2020-04-03T15:11:44Z")
[Quadrant 1](https://www.eveonline.com/article/q3qz6d/fight-or-flight-eve-in-quadrants) was fight or flight and was the first quarter of 2020, quadrant 2 is eclipse in the second quarter of 2020. Presumably someone at CCP thought quadrant sounded better than quarter. ---
**Author:** ![Irina\_Gatekeeper](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/irina_gatekeeper/32/480447_2.png) [@Irina\_Gatekeeper](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Irina_Gatekeeper)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2020, 3:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eclipse-quadrant-2-is-coming-to-eve-online/229389/210 "2020-04-03T15:13:04Z")
Ok, thank you. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2020, 3:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eclipse-quadrant-2-is-coming-to-eve-online/229389/211 "2020-04-03T15:13:17Z")
No problem, happy to help. ---
**Author:** ![Alexa\_Machavela](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alexa_machavela/32/186891_2.png) [@Alexa\_Machavela](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alexa_Machavela)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2020, 3:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eclipse-quadrant-2-is-coming-to-eve-online/229389/212 "2020-04-03T15:14:44Z")
Banding into groups isn’t an issue, and needs no cure. The blue donut conspiracy theory, on the other hand, is rather stale and highly inaccurate. The donut is really more heavily glazed with red with, perhaps, a few blue sprinkles. ‘Blue donut’ implies that nullsec is nothing but a lovefest, full of peace and singing kumbaya by the burning campfire of oh-so-dangerous highsec; a donut where players would never think to engage in PvP. The idea of a blue donut is ludicrous and highly naive. All it is, is so much whining and pining for a game with absolute safety in highsec, like the myth pretends is the case in nullsec. EVE is not a game of absolute peace; even the lore shows that the empires were bloodthirsty and that ‘peace’ is only CONCORD-deep in this universe. On that note, I honestly think the highsec power struggle will not be between the empires or between lowsec and highsec. Consider that while CONCORD has traditionally been the police of highsec, keeping miners, both legit-ish and botters, somewhat safe from gankers, the Triglavians have been acting a bit like police in highsec, keeping active players, both miners and gankers, safe from botters and multiboxers with 20+ accounts all linked together in perfect sync - a sort of new NPC version of CODE. That’s the power struggle; which police with which set of ‘laws’ will control highsec? I, for one, welcome the new order under which players must play the game instead of letting bits of shady programming do it all for them. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eclipse-quadrant-2-is-coming-to-eve-online/229389.md?page=9) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eclipse-quadrant-2-is-coming-to-eve-online/229389.md?page=11)