# Edencom and Trig factions are a problem

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/edencom-and-trig-factions-are-a-problem/486363>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [May 16, 2025, 4:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/edencom-and-trig-factions-are-a-problem/486363 "2025-05-16T16:27:41Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Vokan\_Narkar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vokan_narkar/32/326293_2.png) [@Vokan\_Narkar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vokan_Narkar)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2025, 10:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/edencom-and-trig-factions-are-a-problem/486363/101 "2025-05-18T22:51:45Z")

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> [@Glenduil](#):
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> Back before I quit Eve, there were no Alpha clones. Every account had to have a paid subscription. Want to play Eve and not pay? You can do so on a limited basis. It’s how the free market works.

Yes and it was much more healthy.

> [@Glenduil](#):
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> Oh, you can’t dock in a structure to avoid Concord for attacking in a High Security space? That was an exploit.

WTF? By criminal I mean a character with security status -5 and more. Not “flashy” red pilot. I agree it is logical we cannot dock in ship in NPC stations, but citadels are nonsense and by doing this they are going against what they claim - that EVE is player-driven universe.

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**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2025, 10:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/edencom-and-trig-factions-are-a-problem/486363/102 "2025-05-18T22:53:30Z")

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I agree. Alphas should really go away forever.

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**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2025, 11:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/edencom-and-trig-factions-are-a-problem/486363/103 "2025-05-18T23:04:12Z")

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> [@Glenduil](#):
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> you’re still saying that they’re nerfing PvP in high sec so bad

Concord used to not be invincible. Now they are invincible. We used to have Crime Watch where you were notified when enemies and targets logged in. Gone. We used to be able to war dec anyone for any or no reason at all, whether they owned a structure or not. Gone. Alphas used to be able to gank in high sec. Gone. So, yes, eventually it will get to the point that ganking and PvP in high sec will be a thing of the past, if certain people get their way, that is…

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2025, 11:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/edencom-and-trig-factions-are-a-problem/486363/104 "2025-05-18T23:24:19Z")

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> [@Glenduil](#):
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> PvP in high sec has been going on for 22 years. It’s not going anywhere.

How much PvP have YOU done’ in high sec?

🤔

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**Author:** ![Lydra\_Victor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lydra_victor/32/456813_2.png) [@Lydra\_Victor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lydra_Victor)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2025, 11:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/edencom-and-trig-factions-are-a-problem/486363/105 "2025-05-18T23:46:24Z")

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> [@Lydra\_Victor](#):
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> “EVE ECHOES”

[![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/2/2/d/22dccf90452c291210eeb1a8f59b4e73d2e25d12.jpeg "Infinity Music Video | EVE Echoes") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_k_gvsH44U4)

A GAME FULL OF HOPES BUT FAILED PROMISES. 💔

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**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2025, 11:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/edencom-and-trig-factions-are-a-problem/486363/106 "2025-05-18T23:55:28Z")

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Echoes is the Candy Crush version of EVE. It’s not even made by the same company…

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**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2025, 11:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/edencom-and-trig-factions-are-a-problem/486363/107 "2025-05-18T23:58:58Z")

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> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#):
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> How much PvP have YOU done’ in high sec?

Who the hell cares? Why do you care? Honest question. I want to know why this keeps Aiko Danuja awake at night. “Why doesn’t Glenduil PvP?! WHY?!” Why am I living rent free in your head when it comes to PvP? Why do you continue to ask this question?

Who the hell cares?

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**Author:** ![Lydra\_Victor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lydra_victor/32/456813_2.png) [@Lydra\_Victor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lydra_Victor)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2025, 12:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/edencom-and-trig-factions-are-a-problem/486363/108 "2025-05-19T00:06:12Z")

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And some carebears wants to turn Eve-Online like that. How foolish. They should be careful what they wish for.

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**Author:** ![Lydra\_Victor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lydra_victor/32/456813_2.png) [@Lydra\_Victor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lydra_Victor)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2025, 12:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/edencom-and-trig-factions-are-a-problem/486363/109 "2025-05-19T00:16:08Z")

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> [@Glenduil](#):
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> Why do you care?

They maybe your enemies but it’s an honor to interact with them. Well known Elite of New Eden whatever roleplay they have.. This players has the power to change the landscape of New Eden. I’m thankful I don’t have that kind power because if I have. I’ll destroy everything like a god of destruction and will make Eve-online, offline.

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2025, 1:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/edencom-and-trig-factions-are-a-problem/486363/110 "2025-05-19T01:00:30Z")

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> [@Glenduil](#):
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> Why do you continue to ask this question?

Because you WHINE about PvP, but you have never tried it, so I am merely observing that your lack of experience makes you unqualified to have an informed opinion. Does that help you understand?

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**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2025, 1:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/edencom-and-trig-factions-are-a-problem/486363/111 "2025-05-19T01:04:07Z")

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I wasn’t whining about PvP. I don’t whine about it.

You have not been listening. I have always supported High Sec PvP against carebears. I simply don’t do it myself. I mined right next to you and your underlings as they destroyed all the mining barges around my Skiff. I have never shied away from you. I simply don’t PvP myself.

Did I run while you yourself were blowing up mining barges? No.

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**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2025, 1:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/edencom-and-trig-factions-are-a-problem/486363/112 "2025-05-19T01:09:35Z")

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> [@Glenduil](#):
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> I simply don’t PvP myself.

You can engage in a form of it, though. For example, warp to a belt in a starter system where there are new players, land on grid in two mining Rokhs, and put 16 mining lasers on the exact asteroid they are trying to mine. Then when they switch asteroids, just keep doing that. They love it. They even let you know how much they love it in local…

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**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2025, 1:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/edencom-and-trig-factions-are-a-problem/486363/113 "2025-05-19T01:10:34Z")

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Waste of my time. I don’t want to chase down Veldspar. I’m honestly never bored enough to do that.

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2025, 1:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/edencom-and-trig-factions-are-a-problem/486363/114 "2025-05-19T01:11:01Z")

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> [@Glenduil](#):
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> I don’t want to chase down Veldspar. I’m honestly never bored enough to do that.

I seen you mining in an 0.8! Or were you after Scordite?

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**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2025, 1:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/edencom-and-trig-factions-are-a-problem/486363/115 "2025-05-19T01:11:35Z")

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When? I have only done that twice.

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2025, 1:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/edencom-and-trig-factions-are-a-problem/486363/116 "2025-05-19T01:12:10Z")

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Ok, but to be clear, twice is a lot more than never.

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**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2025, 1:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/edencom-and-trig-factions-are-a-problem/486363/117 "2025-05-19T01:13:01Z")

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again… why do you care? Seriously… why do you care?

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**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2025, 1:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/edencom-and-trig-factions-are-a-problem/486363/118 "2025-05-19T01:20:30Z")

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> [@Glenduil](#):
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> I don’t want to chase down Veldspar

Ok, if that’s not your thing, then go system-to-system warping to combat anoms and “steal” it from the players who are running it. Warp in with a Stormbringer, nuke the entire site in 20 seconds, warp to the next one. That right there generates some restaurant-quality tears…

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**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2025, 1:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/edencom-and-trig-factions-are-a-problem/486363/119 "2025-05-19T01:26:18Z")

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And then, of course, there is the time-honored tradition of punting Orcas into the shadow realm…

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2025, 1:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/edencom-and-trig-factions-are-a-problem/486363/120 "2025-05-19T01:47:30Z")

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> [@Glenduil](#):
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> Seriously… why do you care?

Why do you?

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