# Edencom and Trig factions are a problem **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [May 16, 2025, 4:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/edencom-and-trig-factions-are-a-problem/486363 "2025-05-16T16:27:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Swing\_Vote](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/swing_vote/32/444813_2.png) [@Swing\_Vote](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Swing_Vote)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2025, 2:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/edencom-and-trig-factions-are-a-problem/486363/141 "2025-05-22T02:22:28Z")
> [@Lydra\_Victor](#): > > manages to survive She risks a Catalyst and a free pod. Why wouldn’t she survive? ---
**Author:** ![Lydra\_Victor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lydra_victor/32/456813_2.png) [@Lydra\_Victor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lydra_Victor)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2025, 2:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/edencom-and-trig-factions-are-a-problem/486363/142 "2025-05-22T02:48:42Z")
This level of ignorance. I just wasted my time explaining. ---
**Author:** ![Swing\_Vote](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/swing_vote/32/444813_2.png) [@Swing\_Vote](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Swing_Vote)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2025, 2:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/edencom-and-trig-factions-are-a-problem/486363/143 "2025-05-22T02:52:28Z")
> [@Lydra\_Victor](#): > > This level of ignorance. Really? I’m glad I didn’t give you that Marshal yesterday. ---
**Author:** ![Lydra\_Victor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lydra_victor/32/456813_2.png) [@Lydra\_Victor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lydra_Victor)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2025, 3:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/edencom-and-trig-factions-are-a-problem/486363/144 "2025-05-22T03:22:38Z")
If you really want to know what is involve in this game. Attend some outside events,Meet people and Play politics and you’ll see that Reality and Fiction collides. ---
**Author:** ![Swing\_Vote](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/swing_vote/32/444813_2.png) [@Swing\_Vote](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Swing_Vote)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2025, 3:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/edencom-and-trig-factions-are-a-problem/486363/145 "2025-05-22T03:26:20Z")
> [@Lydra\_Victor](#): > > If you really want to know Dude. I’ve been playing 22 years. ---
**Author:** ![Lydra\_Victor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lydra_victor/32/456813_2.png) [@Lydra\_Victor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lydra_Victor)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2025, 3:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/edencom-and-trig-factions-are-a-problem/486363/146 "2025-05-22T03:27:31Z")
No, you didn’t. ---
**Author:** ![Swing\_Vote](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/swing_vote/32/444813_2.png) [@Swing\_Vote](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Swing_Vote)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2025, 3:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/edencom-and-trig-factions-are-a-problem/486363/147 "2025-05-22T03:31:40Z")
> [@Lydra\_Victor](#): > > you dont Don’t what? ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2025, 7:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/edencom-and-trig-factions-are-a-problem/486363/148 "2025-05-22T07:44:37Z")
Friends don’t let friends use ChatGPT… ---
**Author:** ![Shion\_Ishii](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shion_ishii/32/389684_2.png) [@Shion\_Ishii](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shion_Ishii)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2025, 4:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/edencom-and-trig-factions-are-a-problem/486363/149 "2025-05-22T16:35:50Z")
Not against a null bloc. Carebears like yourself aren’t an organized group like that. You can’t just pull the numbers a null bloc can on a moment’s notice, relatively speaking. Don’t cry about it. Have a tissue. ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/1/f/4/1f4b213d195e8b602401a95b3b5eb6ac4e51ad2f.jpeg) The fate of Niarja is not really the relevant point. The point is a capsuleer fiefdom attacked a major empire. Lorewise, regardless of how CCP runs the game, that should elicit a military counter response. Do you disagree? ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2025, 4:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/edencom-and-trig-factions-are-a-problem/486363/150 "2025-05-22T16:36:45Z")
> [@Shion\_Ishii](#): > > a capsuleer fiefdom attacked a major empire. Lorewise, regardless of how CCP runs the game, that should elicit a military counter response. Do you disagree? I do disagree. I think players should determine EvE history - not NPCs. The empires are weak and stagnant. ---
**Author:** ![Swing\_Vote1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/swing_vote1/32/461282_2.png) [@Swing\_Vote1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Swing_Vote1)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2025, 9:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/edencom-and-trig-factions-are-a-problem/486363/151 "2025-05-22T21:33:37Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > not NPCs [https://openai.com/research/](https://openai.com/research/) ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2025, 9:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/edencom-and-trig-factions-are-a-problem/486363/152 "2025-05-22T21:38:02Z")
Please don’t speak to me Sorry about your previous alt. Best of luck with this one. ---
**Author:** ![Shion\_Ishii](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shion_ishii/32/389684_2.png) [@Shion\_Ishii](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shion_Ishii)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2025, 3:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/edencom-and-trig-factions-are-a-problem/486363/153 "2025-05-24T15:15:03Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > I think players should determine EvE history - not NPCs. The lore and the motivations of the NPCs (Empires, pirates or “ancient threat” factions) has nothing to do with the players. CCP’s developers determine the course of history (i.e. content) and establishes the preplanned pathway(s). The NPCs are their representatives. You completely missed the forest for the trees. If I pick your door locks to allow another group of assailants to enter and pillage your home, am I going to be ignored by you and the police? You’re effectively saying you wouldn’t press charges against me and the police would ignore my actions even though I’m an accomplice. Which is complete _malarky_. Of course LOREWISE the Empires would have to respond. But for gameplay reasons I couldn’t see them doing that. They don’t have those kind of balls. ---
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/510263_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2025, 4:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/edencom-and-trig-factions-are-a-problem/486363/154 "2025-05-24T16:46:39Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > I think players should determine EvE history - not NPCs. Capsuleers play only a minor role in the large scheme of things. They are a useful tool to support the empires wars and economics, thats why the empires allow them to roam freely within their borders. But the main powers lie at the NPC empires. They have the tools to entirely disrupt a capsuleers connection to his ship, making him totally helpless, thats how CONCORD polices unlawful capsuleer agression. Thats why they can enforce rules about what equipment may be used within their borders and what can’t be used. It’s even hardwired into the blueprints of each ship and module. Capsuleers will always be slaves on a leash and should they even try to revolt, the empires will wipe them out quickly. Without the technology provided by the Empires, even a capsuleer is nothing more than a normal human. So, yes, they can influence, but they can never control. ---
**Author:** ![Swing\_Vote1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/swing_vote1/32/461282_2.png) [@Swing\_Vote1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Swing_Vote1)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2025, 5:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/edencom-and-trig-factions-are-a-problem/486363/155 "2025-05-24T17:34:24Z")
> [@Shion\_Ishii](#): > > am I going to be ignored by you and the police? Nope. > [@Syzygium](#): > > they can influence We can influence each other. I choose good. * * * ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/4/f/d/4fd997fdebbce814c643d49aa100e002cfb9a109.jpeg) * * * ---
**Author:** ![Tiger\_space\_Thedark](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tiger_space_thedark/32/373728_2.png) [@Tiger\_space\_Thedark](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tiger_space_Thedark)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2025, 10:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/edencom-and-trig-factions-are-a-problem/486363/156 "2025-05-25T22:37:08Z")
it’s been years and people still complaining about trigs ? where was this effort during niarja 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Lydra\_Victor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lydra_victor/32/456813_2.png) [@Lydra\_Victor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lydra_Victor)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2025, 11:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/edencom-and-trig-factions-are-a-problem/486363/157 "2025-05-25T23:26:12Z")
> [@Tiger\_space\_Thedark](#): > > where was this effort during niarja Maybe CCP choose the wrong system. They should have tried Uedema. Imagine the rant, confusion and chaos. ---
**Author:** ![Tiger\_space\_Thedark](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tiger_space_thedark/32/373728_2.png) [@Tiger\_space\_Thedark](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tiger_space_Thedark)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2025, 11:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/edencom-and-trig-factions-are-a-problem/486363/158 "2025-05-25T23:27:50Z")
niarja was the deal, not uedama ---
**Author:** ![Lydra\_Victor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lydra_victor/32/456813_2.png) [@Lydra\_Victor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lydra_Victor)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2025, 11:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/edencom-and-trig-factions-are-a-problem/486363/159 "2025-05-25T23:29:41Z")
Make Sense ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2025, 6:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/edencom-and-trig-factions-are-a-problem/486363/160 "2025-05-27T06:00:25Z")
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