# Electus Matari found not guilty of all piracy and of all anti-Imperial movement **URL:** \ **Category:** Intergalactic Summit\ **Created:** [November 25, 2017, 3:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/electus-matari-found-not-guilty-of-all-piracy-and-of-all-anti-imperial-movement/41587 "2017-11-25T03:26:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Deitra\_Vess](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/deitra_vess/32/249726_2.png) [@Deitra\_Vess](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Deitra_Vess)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2017, 11:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/electus-matari-found-not-guilty-of-all-piracy-and-of-all-anti-imperial-movement/41587/101 "2017-12-15T23:53:02Z")
I have to agree with you on it being less but, simple math: you have ten isk and i have five isk, you spend 6.75 isk and I spend 4.99 isk. Who’s better off? We would be starting this conflict with much less and a much higher percentage would be spent. It doesn’t really matter that we spent less if we went bankrupt in the process. ---
**Author:** ![Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elsebeth_rhiannon/32/418836_2.png) [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elsebeth_Rhiannon)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2017, 7:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/electus-matari-found-not-guilty-of-all-piracy-and-of-all-anti-imperial-movement/41587/102 "2017-12-18T19:42:45Z")
> [@Vaari](#): > > I have lived with EM I’m sorry, this has been amusing, but it needs to stop now. No, you have not. You have possibly lived _in the same region_ of space (I cannot confirm any actual observations, though). We have explicitly agreed with your leadership that for our mutual interests it would be beneficial you stay 1) away from EM and 2) quiet about EM. > [@Vaari](#): > > They are afraid. So I kindly suggest you stop spreading lies and stop pretending you are our friend. You are _not_. Elsebeth Rhiannon Not a diplomat, actually (But I do know what I am talking about) CEO of SoE Roughriders Electus Matari ---
**Author:** ![Mitara\_Newelle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mitara_newelle/32/384431_2.png) [@Mitara\_Newelle](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mitara_Newelle)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2017, 8:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/electus-matari-found-not-guilty-of-all-piracy-and-of-all-anti-imperial-movement/41587/103 "2017-12-18T20:57:48Z")
My day is not barely half over and I see Lord Vaari being told he is speaking nonsense about Electus Matari from a prominent member _ **of** _ Electus Matari, Lord Vaari totally changes his mind about the person who expelled him from CVA, and Del’Thul and I find something we can agree on. Interesting times indeed. ---
**Author:** ![Challis\_Drant](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/challis_drant/32/131396_2.png) [@Challis\_Drant](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Challis_Drant)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2017, 2:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/electus-matari-found-not-guilty-of-all-piracy-and-of-all-anti-imperial-movement/41587/104 "2017-12-19T02:37:18Z")
To truly be not guilty of the above charges requires a lack of intent in the members of Electus Matari to destroy the Empire… I can assure you that there have been in the past and are still in the present, those that would like nothing else. Electus Matari follows the laws of the Republic - and as a result of the Republic not advocating the current destruction of the Amarr Empire - means that Electus Matari does not have this currently on it’s official agenda. This is not to say that this will be the official viewpoint of Electus Matari in the future should the Republic’s views change or alter. Challis Drant Alliance Executor Electus Matari. ---
**Author:** ![Mizhara\_Del\_thul](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mizhara_del_thul/32/486150_2.png) [@Mizhara\_Del\_thul](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mizhara_Del_thul)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2017, 9:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/electus-matari-found-not-guilty-of-all-piracy-and-of-all-anti-imperial-movement/41587/105 "2017-12-19T09:12:13Z")
“We will free all our people. To fight for anything less is to betray the Republic”. - Captain Karishal Muritor. “The Amarr must return our people to us. There will be no peace between our empires until the last Minmatar brother or sister held in slavery is released. We will never allow the Amarr to conquer us again even if it means a struggle to the death.” - Unknown. “We are the ones who rose up and cast off the slavers’ shackles. We are the ones who rebuilt our nation and restored the paradise that is Matar. We are the ones who will free all of our people. We are the ones who will forge our destiny at home and in the stars.” - Unknown. These are statements and quotes that greet our new capsuleer graduates, Challis. Are you entirely sure the Republic isn’t advocating something a bit more… _aggressive_ than piddling around at home right now? ---
**Author:** ![Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elsebeth_rhiannon/32/418836_2.png) [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elsebeth_Rhiannon)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2017, 1:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/electus-matari-found-not-guilty-of-all-piracy-and-of-all-anti-imperial-movement/41587/106 "2017-12-19T13:04:13Z")
Nice quotes. Where’s Shakor’s war, now, then? EDIT: Also go away, uncle Challis, we kids are playing diplomat. ---
**Author:** ![Mizhara\_Del\_thul](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mizhara_del_thul/32/486150_2.png) [@Mizhara\_Del\_thul](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mizhara_Del_thul)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2017, 1:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/electus-matari-found-not-guilty-of-all-piracy-and-of-all-anti-imperial-movement/41587/107 "2017-12-19T13:21:13Z")
Wish I knew. Are you really going to hate on him for _not_ going to war, though? I have distinct memories of various EM folks _condemning_ him for not following Midular’s appeasement policies. It’s looking like the problem with him is that he’s not Midular, not his policies at this point. ---
**Author:** ![Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elsebeth_rhiannon/32/418836_2.png) [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elsebeth_Rhiannon)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2017, 1:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/electus-matari-found-not-guilty-of-all-piracy-and-of-all-anti-imperial-movement/41587/108 "2017-12-19T13:27:14Z")
The point is that a toy war is a worse of both worlds. _Either_ go full out _or_ pull back completely. In a war of attrition the smaller party loses. That mathematics is not something I disagree with. That said, you are not _completely_ wrong. I underestimated the value personal loyalty holds for myself. Which, coming from my background, is rather odd, but I guess fish are blind to the water they swim in. ---
**Author:** ![Valerie\_Valate](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/valerie_valate/32/386231_2.png) [@Valerie\_Valate](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Valerie_Valate)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2017, 2:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/electus-matari-found-not-guilty-of-all-piracy-and-of-all-anti-imperial-movement/41587/109 "2017-12-19T14:21:47Z")
> [@Valerie\_Valate](#): > > Wherein I present the evidence that Electus Matari are indeed pirates and/or scoundrels: > > I once saw a then Electus Matari member attend a party wearing an admittedly rather fetching outfit including a leather corset, knee high boots, and a hat worn at a rakish angle. > > Frankly I was greatly surprised they even made those in Gottii’s size. Shame on Electus Matari for not responding to these allegations. Shaaaaaaame. ---
**Author:** ![Challis\_Drant](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/challis_drant/32/131396_2.png) [@Challis\_Drant](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Challis_Drant)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2017, 7:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/electus-matari-found-not-guilty-of-all-piracy-and-of-all-anti-imperial-movement/41587/110 "2017-12-19T19:10:02Z")
Gottii always looked good in whatever he was wearing - I remember one roam where he was the lead scout - and he came back with this line when he jumped ahead - “One handsome Brutor in local” - we were like “what?” - he just sighed and said - “he was all by himself” 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Vaari](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vaari/32/373419_2.png) [@Vaari](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vaari)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2018, 3:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/electus-matari-found-not-guilty-of-all-piracy-and-of-all-anti-imperial-movement/41587/111 "2018-01-20T03:17:43Z")
Even if im not your friend you are mine and there is nothing you can do about it. I have grown very fond of your peple and to your culture. ---
**Author:** ![Agent\_5B](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/agent_5b/32/176874_2.png) [@Agent\_5B](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Agent_5B)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2018, 6:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/electus-matari-found-not-guilty-of-all-piracy-and-of-all-anti-imperial-movement/41587/112 "2018-03-08T18:22:05Z")
I’m guilty of a hell of a lot of anti imperial movement ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2018, 6:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/electus-matari-found-not-guilty-of-all-piracy-and-of-all-anti-imperial-movement/41587/113 "2018-06-06T18:22:08Z")
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