# Elite: Dangerous have ~400 billions of stars and EVE just only ~7800. Why CCP?!?!? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [February 26, 2021, 12:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/elite-dangerous-have-400-billions-of-stars-and-eve-just-only-7800-why-ccp/297637 "2021-02-26T12:35:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jayce_fitzpatrick/32/383289_2.png) [@Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jayce_Fitzpatrick)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2021, 5:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/elite-dangerous-have-400-billions-of-stars-and-eve-just-only-7800-why-ccp/297637/59 "2021-02-26T17:18:37Z")
I thought this thread was about the number of stars in Elite: Dangerous. I guess I’m wrong… ---
**Author:** ![Rocket\_Hellfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rocket_hellfire/32/396905_2.png) [@Rocket\_Hellfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rocket_Hellfire)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2021, 5:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/elite-dangerous-have-400-billions-of-stars-and-eve-just-only-7800-why-ccp/297637/60 "2021-02-26T17:18:50Z")
Go and enjoy Elite: Dangerous. You won’t be missed. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2021, 5:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/elite-dangerous-have-400-billions-of-stars-and-eve-just-only-7800-why-ccp/297637/61 "2021-02-26T17:19:13Z")
Sorry mia culpa My bad everyone! ---
**Author:** ![Rich\_Darine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rich_darine/32/438327_2.png) [@Rich\_Darine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rich_Darine)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2021, 5:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/elite-dangerous-have-400-billions-of-stars-and-eve-just-only-7800-why-ccp/297637/62 "2021-02-26T17:42:11Z")
Here’s a great big, giant ‘no thanks’ from me. 7,800 systems and so many of them are glossed over. Plenty of room for the playerbase to grow into what we have. ---
**Author:** ![Han\_Zealot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/han_zealot/32/300893_2.png) [@Han\_Zealot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Han_Zealot)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2021, 5:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/elite-dangerous-have-400-billions-of-stars-and-eve-just-only-7800-why-ccp/297637/63 "2021-02-26T17:49:02Z")
> [@Mr\_Raven\_101](#): > > we need at least triple current number of K-space systems. And in perfect - add complete procedural galaxy with billions of stars. That would be cool but then can you imagine the subscription for something like that? I rather CCP not add anything and keep the subscription price at 14.99 per month. I’m fine with the way the game is as is. The only time I got discouraged is when I noticed that EVERY planet already has a Customs Office so everyone who’s doing P.I is now held hostage by those big corporations who have them everywhere but as long as some of those Customs Offices charge less than 20% I’m okay. The day I can’t do P.I will be the day I don’t play anymore. Elite is a good game and do play it too but EVE is unique in its genre. ---
**Author:** ![Cipher\_Jones](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cipher_jones/32/258701_2.png) [@Cipher\_Jones](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cipher_Jones)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2021, 5:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/elite-dangerous-have-400-billions-of-stars-and-eve-just-only-7800-why-ccp/297637/64 "2021-02-26T17:49:45Z")
1. As far as ED vs Eve, play that if you like it better. 2. NMS is supposedly bigger than Eve. Its infinitely more boring. My conclusion is that bigger aint necessarily better, and a lot of games pretend and or try be bigger than Eve for nothing more than one-upsmanship. ---
**Author:** ![ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_dorrim_barstorlode/32/361083_2.png) [@ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Dorrim_Barstorlode)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2021, 6:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/elite-dangerous-have-400-billions-of-stars-and-eve-just-only-7800-why-ccp/297637/65 "2021-02-26T18:54:48Z")
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**Author:** ![ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_dorrim_barstorlode/32/361083_2.png) [@ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Dorrim_Barstorlode)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2021, 6:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/elite-dangerous-have-400-billions-of-stars-and-eve-just-only-7800-why-ccp/297637/66 "2021-02-26T18:54:56Z")
Removed 38 off topic posts. Don’t do it again. First warning. ---
**Author:** ![ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_dorrim_barstorlode/32/361083_2.png) [@ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Dorrim_Barstorlode)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2021, 6:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/elite-dangerous-have-400-billions-of-stars-and-eve-just-only-7800-why-ccp/297637/67 "2021-02-26T18:57:49Z")
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**Author:** ![MajorBean](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/majorbean/32/382916_2.png) [@MajorBean](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MajorBean)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2021, 7:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/elite-dangerous-have-400-billions-of-stars-and-eve-just-only-7800-why-ccp/297637/68 "2021-02-26T19:47:11Z")
Can you guys imagine, 400B systems in the new eden cluster. 100 system are sov space. 100 are wormhole space. People would still complain, ---
**Author:** ![Clary\_Daemon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/clary_daemon/32/253040_2.png) [@Clary\_Daemon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Clary_Daemon)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2021, 8:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/elite-dangerous-have-400-billions-of-stars-and-eve-just-only-7800-why-ccp/297637/69 "2021-02-26T20:14:18Z")
It’s human nature to come together though. I’m not sure eve needs billions of solar systems, but I also don’t think we need to be forced together. Some people enjoy being completely alone. I’m one of them. I wish I had the choice to take over my own small slice of space. A personal empire. Product would still need to be brought to market, there are always roaming groups you have to worry about. You can already pretty much hide out in eve though. It just takes work. Those clear areas usually suck, too. Otherwise a mega corp would already own it. Many of us simply came to eve too late. We’ll always be behind and unable to realistically compete at the highest levels. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2021, 8:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/elite-dangerous-have-400-billions-of-stars-and-eve-just-only-7800-why-ccp/297637/70 "2021-02-26T20:17:10Z")
Orca. Scan frig. Wormhole. Total freedom ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2021, 8:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/elite-dangerous-have-400-billions-of-stars-and-eve-just-only-7800-why-ccp/297637/71 "2021-02-26T20:21:36Z")
EVE doesn’t need billions of systems because it’s a multiplayer game. But I got to thinking about it, and…What if we had another 10,000 to 20,000 wormhole systems, but _specifically_ wormhole systems in which it’s impossible to anchor structures? That might create a very interesting exploration dynamic in the game. ---
**Author:** ![Clary\_Daemon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/clary_daemon/32/253040_2.png) [@Clary\_Daemon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Clary_Daemon)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2021, 8:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/elite-dangerous-have-400-billions-of-stars-and-eve-just-only-7800-why-ccp/297637/72 "2021-02-26T20:23:26Z")
Working on that as we type. I’ve got the miners and the stations waiting to be anchored. Just working on some scanning alts. Ideally, I want to find the athanor I lost over 2 years ago. I anchored it in a wormhole before I even knew how they’re classed. Then I got blown up, and the wh leading to it collapsed. I’ve been off and on searching for it for over 2 years. It’s not been killed yet. It’s low power from lack of fuel, and just sitting out there somewhere. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2021, 8:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/elite-dangerous-have-400-billions-of-stars-and-eve-just-only-7800-why-ccp/297637/73 "2021-02-26T20:24:57Z")
That sounds awesome. I just did it on one character but that sounds fun too ---
**Author:** ![Xiombarg\_Ohmsford](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xiombarg_ohmsford/32/172425_2.png) [@Xiombarg\_Ohmsford](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xiombarg_Ohmsford)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2021, 8:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/elite-dangerous-have-400-billions-of-stars-and-eve-just-only-7800-why-ccp/297637/74 "2021-02-26T20:28:48Z")
I would gladly pay an extra fee per month to rent out my own private space from CCP, that no one else could interact with. Or maybe CCP could produce an Eve-type game with that in mind. ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2021, 8:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/elite-dangerous-have-400-billions-of-stars-and-eve-just-only-7800-why-ccp/297637/75 "2021-02-26T20:40:37Z")
IMO this is a stupid idea its like saying , why cant we dock on a planet and explore in a hover , and build a space base etc… ![Captura de Tela 2021-02-26 às 17.34.46](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/2/c/b/2cb03dbd4822508822c37943a78a7252d730194f.png) thats wat you get for YEARS of development and 300 MILION dollars , a BIG , beautiful city and even there the dam thing is all bugged > **[r/nextfuckinglevel - I'm on a Minecraft Building Team which consists of over 400...](https://www.reddit.com/r/nextfuckinglevel/comments/gj5a8w/im_on_a_minecraft_building_team_which_consists_of/)** > > 124,935 votes and 3,009 comments so far on Reddit it took 9 years and 400 peeps to do this city in Minecraft what EVE online have to gain with BILLIONS stars , F nothing just a endless stream of money wasted in development that will not improve gameplay elite have single shard 4000 man in the same system pvp? NO different games , different scope , one is a RPG other is some kind of simulation kerbal space program have ONE star , and its AWESOME i wasted all my english and is better to end here , but that bigger is better idea is the cancer that make AAA games so ■■■■ this days ---
**Author:** ![zazzmatazz\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zazzmatazz_xu/32/451037_2.png) [@zazzmatazz\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/zazzmatazz_Xu)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2021, 8:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/elite-dangerous-have-400-billions-of-stars-and-eve-just-only-7800-why-ccp/297637/76 "2021-02-26T20:44:10Z")
> [@Mr\_Raven\_101](#): > > Powerblocks own everything out of highsec I completely agree, although their “presence” isn’t obvious there are many null corporations under different names or holding corporations that muscle anything they want in high sec. > [@Mr\_Raven\_101](#): > > 1/2 of EVE just because of free space to explore! I’d say less then that, again too many places locked behind gate camps, and too many players desperate to kill anything that moves so real exploration is out unless you like hitting D-scan every second constantly looking over one’s shoulders gets tedious. > [@Mr\_Raven\_101](#): > > EVE playerbase is in stagnation Also true, there are too many cockroach corporations that simply won’t die, and thus you get bloat. > [@Mr\_Raven\_101](#): > > Just because everything is already taken. Although this is true the ideal is for someone to PVP it away from others, but again bloated corpses…I mean corporations make this impossible. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Raven\_101](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_raven_101/32/383465_2.png) [@Mr\_Raven\_101](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Raven_101)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2021, 9:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/elite-dangerous-have-400-billions-of-stars-and-eve-just-only-7800-why-ccp/297637/77 "2021-02-26T21:04:16Z")
> [@tutucox\_Khamsi](#): > > what EVE online have to gain with BILLIONS stars , F nothing > just a endless stream of money wasted in development that will not improve gameplay Chek out procedural generation. **Space Engine** for example Coded by one man in his free time. There is no investements required at all compare to total CCP profit. And who say that you need to spread people? ED same is eve have populated core - Bubble. Empire space in eve is still be empire space. Markerts, trade routes, etc. But people get more freedom to move and take their places. BTW, KSP dont have multiplayer. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2021, 9:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/elite-dangerous-have-400-billions-of-stars-and-eve-just-only-7800-why-ccp/297637/78 "2021-02-26T21:08:28Z")
> [@Mr\_Raven\_101](#): > > There is no investements required at all compare to total CCP profit. Well, if they want a ED style one there is. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/elite-dangerous-have-400-billions-of-stars-and-eve-just-only-7800-why-ccp/297637.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/elite-dangerous-have-400-billions-of-stars-and-eve-just-only-7800-why-ccp/297637.md?page=3)