# Elite PvP vs Ganking **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [December 2, 2024, 6:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/elite-pvp-vs-ganking/469957 "2024-12-02T18:33:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sasha_nemtsov/32/393707_2.png) [@Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sasha_Nemtsov)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2024, 5:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/elite-pvp-vs-ganking/469957/189 "2024-12-11T17:29:35Z")
> [@Mr\_Epeen](#): > > That’s a “you” problem. If it is a ‘me’ problem, then you’ve no need to concern yourself, Mr Epeen. > [@Mr\_Epeen](#): > > Find an ESL teacher or a therapist. That’s plain rude, Mr Epeen. I’ve done nothing to deserve such spite, I’m sure. > [@Mr\_Epeen](#): > > I cannot help you. No indeed, Mr Epeen, you cannot; and neither should you attempt to do so in your current curmudgeonly state. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Epeen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_epeen/32/373308_2.png) [@Mr\_Epeen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Epeen)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2024, 5:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/elite-pvp-vs-ganking/469957/190 "2024-12-11T17:59:42Z")
You post exactly like that Amatin guy. Kind of look like him as well. Is there something you’re not telling us? Mr Epeen 🕶 ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2024, 6:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/elite-pvp-vs-ganking/469957/191 "2024-12-11T18:39:46Z")
> [@Sasha\_Nemtsov](#): > > ‘elite mining’ Noooo. The highest possible skill in Eve is **Elite Watching Home & Away While AFK**. It takes years to skill for this. It’s not just any old person who has the sheer skill and dexterity to hit Alt Tab every half hour to see if their ship is still there. It requires a doctorate and a Ph.D thesis and years of training on Mr Epeen’s special flight simulator. Only Top Gun AFK-ers can reach this exalted level. ---
**Author:** ![Smarter\_ThanU](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/smarter_thanu/32/436079_2.png) [@Smarter\_ThanU](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Smarter_ThanU)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2024, 7:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/elite-pvp-vs-ganking/469957/192 "2024-12-11T19:18:06Z")
There’s a stark contrast between twankers and miners. Miners don’t impose their “play style” on others. As a matter of fact, you have to go looking for them. They work tirelessly day after day, week after week, month after month and yes, year after year to bring to bring the minerals necessary to drive Eve’s bustling economy. They have a job to do. An essential job. **Miners are necessary.** If every twanker quit playing Eve tomorrow, they wouldn’t even be missed… ---
**Author:** ![Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sasha_nemtsov/32/393707_2.png) [@Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sasha_Nemtsov)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2024, 7:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/elite-pvp-vs-ganking/469957/193 "2024-12-11T19:27:11Z")
> [@Mr\_Epeen](#): > > Kind of look like him as well. > > Is there something you’re not telling us? Please try to stay on topic, Mr Epeen; it helps to promote useful exchanges. If, on the other hand, it is your intention to have the thread closed, then make the request in the usual way. It doesn’t have to come from the OP - though its efficacy might be otherwise impaired. Did you buy this toon from him, Smarter ThanU/YHWH is Lord? ---
**Author:** ![YHWH\_Is\_Lord](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yhwh_is_lord/32/444382_2.png) [@YHWH\_Is\_Lord](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/YHWH_Is_Lord)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2024, 7:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/elite-pvp-vs-ganking/469957/194 "2024-12-11T19:36:16Z")
> [@SexierThanYou](#): > > I am not piling on you so please don’t take it the wrong way No problem, I saw no piling. > [@SexierThanYou](#): > > I hope you feel fine I just woke up in blessed quiet, I feel happy. > [@SexierThanYou](#): > > I wish you well That’s mighty kind of you. I wish you well, too. > [@SexierThanYou](#): > > I apologize if I caused you any discomfort or grief with my words You didn’t. Most of it was true, except for the “angry” part. I have high blood pressure so I get excited once in a while. It’s true I am dangerous though, to a-holes. You take care now. o7 ---
**Author:** ![Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sasha_nemtsov/32/393707_2.png) [@Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sasha_Nemtsov)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2024, 7:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/elite-pvp-vs-ganking/469957/195 "2024-12-11T19:49:25Z")
> [@Smarter\_ThanU](#): > > Miners don’t impose their “play style” on others They cannot do so. Miners occupy a place at the bottom of the EVE Food Chain; they know this, and so do we. > [@Smarter\_ThanU](#): > > They work tirelessly day after day They fly to an asteroid belt, lock a rock and cycle their lasers. The coding does all the work for them. > [@Smarter\_ThanU](#): > > to bring the minerals necessary to drive Eve’s bustling economy. Some gankers do this, too, and manufacture ships and modules. Does your binary-only cognitive capacity think that miners only mine and gankers only gank? You’re wrong. Again. > [@Smarter\_ThanU](#): > > If every twanker quit playing Eve tomorrow, they wouldn’t even be missed… Perhaps they wouldn’t. So, what? ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2024, 7:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/elite-pvp-vs-ganking/469957/196 "2024-12-11T19:54:45Z")
> [@Smarter\_ThanU](#): > > They work tirelessly day after day, week after week, month after month and yes, year after year That’s just it…_work_…in a computer game. For a pittance. On the other hand… [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/9/7/7/977d8312cd79bc3092519f51737b421a59cfb2ad.jpeg "Eve Online : The Quickest Way To Get Over 1 BILLION Isk") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iuxbw--aRdY) ---
**Author:** ![YHWH\_Is\_Lord](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yhwh_is_lord/32/444382_2.png) [@YHWH\_Is\_Lord](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/YHWH_Is_Lord)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2024, 7:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/elite-pvp-vs-ganking/469957/197 "2024-12-11T19:55:25Z")
> [@Smarter\_ThanU](#): > > There’s a stark contrast between twankers and miners. > > Miners don’t impose their “play style” on others. As a matter of fact, you have to go looking for them. > > They work tirelessly day after day, week after week, month after month and yes, year after year to bring to bring the minerals necessary to drive Eve’s bustling economy. > > They have a job to do. An essential job. > > **Miners are necessary.** > > If every twanker quit playing Eve tomorrow, they wouldn’t even be missed… 👍Your post is gold. 🫡 Miners are the pearls of New Eden. The best of the best of the best. Gankers lick their underarms. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Epeen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_epeen/32/373308_2.png) [@Mr\_Epeen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Epeen)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2024, 8:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/elite-pvp-vs-ganking/469957/198 "2024-12-11T20:08:10Z")
> [@Sasha\_Nemtsov](#): > > Please try to stay on topic, Mr Epeen; it helps to promote useful exchanges. If, on the other hand, it is your intention to have the thread closed, then make the request in the usual way. It doesn’t have to come from the OP - though its efficacy might be otherwise impaired. > > Did you buy this toon from him, Smarter ThanU/YHWH is Lord? That’s an Amatin tactic. Start by saying what I’m doing is bad in the first half of your post and then doing the exact thing you are accusing me of in the second. You need to relax and count to ten before you post. Anger opens the door to secrets. Go have a nap. Mr Epeen 🕶 ---
**Author:** ![YHWH\_Is\_Lord](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yhwh_is_lord/32/444382_2.png) [@YHWH\_Is\_Lord](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/YHWH_Is_Lord)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2024, 8:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/elite-pvp-vs-ganking/469957/199 "2024-12-11T20:19:33Z")
> [@Mr\_Epeen](#): > > Go have a nap. He can’t nap, he is troubled by his conscience. All those poor miners he murdered… I wouldn’t want to be in his shoes. ---
**Author:** ![Smarter\_ThanU](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/smarter_thanu/32/436079_2.png) [@Smarter\_ThanU](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Smarter_ThanU)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2024, 8:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/elite-pvp-vs-ganking/469957/200 "2024-12-11T20:22:32Z")
> [@Mr\_Epeen](#): > > Anger opens the door to secrets. Right?!? > [@Sasha\_Nemtsov](#): > > Does your binary-only cognitive capacity think that miners only mine and gankers only gank? Nice attempt at being clever 😀 What is it, deep down, that makes you hate productive members of society? ---
**Author:** ![YHWH\_Is\_Lord](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yhwh_is_lord/32/444382_2.png) [@YHWH\_Is\_Lord](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/YHWH_Is_Lord)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2024, 8:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/elite-pvp-vs-ganking/469957/201 "2024-12-11T20:26:55Z")
> [@Smarter\_ThanU](#): > > If every twanker quit playing Eve tomorrow, they wouldn’t even be missed… That’s why they have to go on forums, to stay relevant because they know no-one needs them. They even create alts to stir up attention about themselves like them Frostpackers always talking about that trollop princess just to stay relevant and in the public eye otherwise they’d be forgotten in an hour. Gankers lick their feet. ---
**Author:** ![Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sasha_nemtsov/32/393707_2.png) [@Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sasha_Nemtsov)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2024, 8:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/elite-pvp-vs-ganking/469957/202 "2024-12-11T20:28:14Z")
> [@Mr\_Epeen](#): > > Start by saying what I’m doing is bad in the first half of your post and then doing the exact thing you are accusing me of in the second. Guilty, as charged! > [@Mr\_Epeen](#): > > Anger opens the door to secrets. I don’t do ‘anger’, because I cannot. Irritation, fleeting and shallow, is about the most you’ll get from me. The door has never been closed. @YHWH_Is_Lord @Smarter_ThanU If you must dangle from Mr Epeen’s apron strings, at least try to disguise it a little. Shameful. ---
**Author:** ![YHWH\_Is\_Lord](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yhwh_is_lord/32/444382_2.png) [@YHWH\_Is\_Lord](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/YHWH_Is_Lord)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2024, 8:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/elite-pvp-vs-ganking/469957/203 "2024-12-11T20:34:52Z")
> [@Sasha\_Nemtsov](#): > > Shameful You’re just mad because you know we’re right and you’re wrong. Miners serve a purpose, gankers are the hangers-on, the detritu, the garbage of New Eden. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2024, 8:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/elite-pvp-vs-ganking/469957/204 "2024-12-11T20:54:35Z")
Nothing you say makes any difference. We won’t stop ganking. You won’t stop us. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2024, 8:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/elite-pvp-vs-ganking/469957/206 "2024-12-11T20:57:46Z")
Who cares? I’m still gonna gank new players. What are you gonna do about it? Cry more? ---
**Author:** ![YHWH\_Is\_Lord](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yhwh_is_lord/32/444382_2.png) [@YHWH\_Is\_Lord](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/YHWH_Is_Lord)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2024, 9:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/elite-pvp-vs-ganking/469957/207 "2024-12-11T21:02:58Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > What are you gonna do about it? Nothing. You can stink all you want. ---
**Author:** ![James\_Fuchs](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/james_fuchs/32/504955_2.png) [@James\_Fuchs](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/James_Fuchs)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2024, 9:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/elite-pvp-vs-ganking/469957/208 "2024-12-11T21:56:15Z")
> [@Mr\_Epeen](#): > > I came to EVE from WW2 combat flight simulators. A genre where your average EVE player couldn’t fire up his plane’s engine, let alone get the thing off the ground. Mr Epeen, I too have a storied history with WW2 flight simulators. And I have aquired quite the proficency in piloting these aerial vehicles. From Zeros to Butcher birds, Mustangs, Messerschmitts, Spitfires and Yaks. I have witnessed every skill level in this particular category. From struggling like everyone else to towering above my former equals as a god. I regularly traded blows with legends, some of them I bested gloriously, some hopelessly defeated me without mercy. The skills and insight I have aquired from this time, still stick with me. To be truly proficent and outstanding, to outdo your opponents by leaps and bounds in a field that is highly competitive and brutally punishes even the smallest of mistakes and oversights - that is an experience that I wish to everyone. It changes you. With that being said, there is a skill bar clearly present in the game. Every activity can be mastered to a nauseating degree. Even mining, believe it or not. To say PvP in EVE Online sets low bars, or is of very simple and menial nature, disregards the accomplishment of all combat pilot across the entirety of New Eden. True excellency inherently comes with the ability to recognize it in others. I invite you to distance yourself from your current thoughts and re-examine your beliefs about player versus player combat in EVE Online. With high altitude regards -James Fuchs ---
**Author:** ![YHWH\_Is\_Lord](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yhwh_is_lord/32/444382_2.png) [@YHWH\_Is\_Lord](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/YHWH_Is_Lord)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2024, 10:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/elite-pvp-vs-ganking/469957/209 "2024-12-11T22:09:14Z")
> [@James\_Fuchs](#): > > To be truly proficent and outstanding, to outdo your opponents by leaps and bounds in a field that is highly competitive and brutally punishes even the smallest of mistakes and oversights - > that is an experience that I wish to everyone. It changes you Gawd… it’s a video game! 🤣 A video game changes you, LOL… Clearly you’ve had a boring comfortable luxurious life! > [@James\_Fuchs](#): > > there is a skill bar clearly present in the game Yeah, the skill to suck your big toe and lick your underarms. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/elite-pvp-vs-ganking/469957.md?page=9) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/elite-pvp-vs-ganking/469957.md?page=11)