# Elite PvP vs Ganking **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [December 2, 2024, 6:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/elite-pvp-vs-ganking/469957 "2024-12-02T18:33:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 16
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2024, 1:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/elite-pvp-vs-ganking/469957/311 "2024-12-29T01:56:25Z")
> [@Zaera\_Keena](#): > > she will rip your soul out of your body, you will then be in her head with all the other souls she extracted. I thought that’s what marriage all was about? Please, the ISD are watching. 😏 ---
**Author:** ![Zercix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zercix/32/378921_2.png) [@Zercix](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zercix)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2024, 6:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/elite-pvp-vs-ganking/469957/312 "2024-12-29T06:37:19Z")
Could the troll’s bait be any more apparent… ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2024, 8:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/elite-pvp-vs-ganking/469957/313 "2024-12-29T08:41:03Z")
> [@Zaera\_Keena](#): > > saying “Kill him” But what would Zaera say when she sees the Frostpacker? 🤔 > **...** > > “Kill him, take his wallet and hide his body in the vent. 😈” 😊 ---
**Author:** ![Chad\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chad_frostpacker/32/504356_2.png) [@Chad\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chad_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2024, 10:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/elite-pvp-vs-ganking/469957/314 "2024-12-29T10:11:38Z")
Why are you always kicking up dust. ---
**Author:** ![Chad\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chad_frostpacker/32/504356_2.png) [@Chad\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chad_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2024, 10:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/elite-pvp-vs-ganking/469957/315 "2024-12-29T10:24:47Z")
> [@MB\_ThePhotographer](#): > > ISD are watching. I am beyond grateful for the opportunity to share my thanks and praise to such a wonderful crew of forum Capsuleers. ---
**Author:** ![Tiffany\_Tatum](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tiffany_tatum/32/444722_2.png) [@Tiffany\_Tatum](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tiffany_Tatum)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2024, 3:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/elite-pvp-vs-ganking/469957/316 "2024-12-29T15:17:00Z")
> [@MB\_ThePhotographer](#): > > No, I just like your attitude. Thank you. It seems pretty obvious to me that in a multiplayer game, solo players have a harder time and hence have to be better than their counterparts who have a crew to help them perform. Of course I do mean solo players who do not multibox I consider elite as multiboxing I consider cheating. FYI I’m platinum blonde. ---
**Author:** ![Distaine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/distaine/32/502653_2.png) [@Distaine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Distaine)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2024, 6:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/elite-pvp-vs-ganking/469957/317 "2024-12-29T18:50:02Z")
Just another concept CCP doesnt care about and actively destroys. I multibox because I do what it takes to win when its time to win. I am forced unless I want mah boys to lose against enemies who are doing it also and have no concept of anything but a numbers game. But give me the choice and id be in one ship. It would be much better to be in a small gang of single account pvpers again. Multiboxing isnt even fun. Its a chore and I hate it. Its not as bad as TiDi at least. Keep pushing for larger fleet fights CCP… because streamers can make great content with controlled lag as the standard right? Fkn idiotic. FYI… Im looking for a man in finance. Trust fund, 6’5", blue eyes. ---
**Author:** ![Wachutu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wachutu/32/410262_2.png) [@Wachutu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wachutu)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2024, 9:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/elite-pvp-vs-ganking/469957/318 "2024-12-29T21:06:19Z")
I didnt read this wall but i think ganking is also another Elite PVP. ---
**Author:** ![Chad\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chad_frostpacker/32/504356_2.png) [@Chad\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chad_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2024, 9:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/elite-pvp-vs-ganking/469957/319 "2024-12-29T21:17:30Z")
Referring to that Solo Titan PVP? / [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/3/1/31605b23df8f836d5b64c94bdecf2ef4ba764f14.jpeg "Solo pvp titan") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jQqOqm4eYM) Legend has it that he is still getting killmails from that camp. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2024, 11:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/elite-pvp-vs-ganking/469957/320 "2024-12-29T23:11:57Z")
You are correct - Ganking is **Elite PvP** ---
**Author:** ![Distaine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/distaine/32/502653_2.png) [@Distaine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Distaine)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2024, 12:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/elite-pvp-vs-ganking/469957/321 "2024-12-30T00:15:30Z")
There’s a reason its called a Gank… and its not about competition. So what makes it anything but a one-sided? Lets not call ganking elite. Id argue its not even PvP. Its just press a button and the one being ganked doesnt get to lock you. Hell, you know the guy isnt even combat fit. Its poser PvP at best. Same as using a fleet of 100 to gank noobs on a gate, poser PvP. I mean cmon… you think a fight is talking down a badger? lol I wouldnt lock up a badger in a proteus and pretend that was a fight. Lets be real. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2024, 1:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/elite-pvp-vs-ganking/469957/322 "2024-12-30T13:10:23Z")
> [@Distaine](#): > > Id argue its not even PvP. PvP = Player v Player. ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2024, 1:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/elite-pvp-vs-ganking/469957/323 "2024-12-30T13:57:26Z")
High Sec ganking is nothing but a game of numbers. You’re a guy clocking in to work at a minimum wage job. You’re just there to do a task that anyone can do. You’re just a number. Taking out a mining barge just takes numbers. It doesn’t take skill. You just need enough ships. If you have 30 T2 cats and are going after a Hulk, you’re going to win- no skill involved. But of course- the individual ganker didn’t win- that ganker was just one of 30 - a number. Ganking miners takes as much skill as the miner needs to mine rocks. Low sec and null sec PvP is about cat and mouse and power and numbers. The skill is winning a fight without stumbling into a fight you can’t win. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2024, 2:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/elite-pvp-vs-ganking/469957/324 "2024-12-30T14:22:39Z")
> [@Glenduil](#): > > The skill is winning a fight without stumbling into a fight you can’t win. And you have experience of this. Where is the evidence? ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2024, 2:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/elite-pvp-vs-ganking/469957/325 "2024-12-30T14:30:20Z")
Explain why you need evidence. I would like a written thesis. ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2024, 2:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/elite-pvp-vs-ganking/469957/326 "2024-12-30T14:30:43Z")
A thesis is required on why you need evidence. ---
**Author:** ![Thork\_DeLaroche](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/thork_delaroche/32/446812_2.png) [@Thork\_DeLaroche](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Thork_DeLaroche)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2024, 2:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/elite-pvp-vs-ganking/469957/327 "2024-12-30T14:34:30Z")
> [@Glenduil](#): > > Explain why you need evidence. He can’t explain why he needs evidence. You’re discussing with a troll, hello. ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2024, 2:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/elite-pvp-vs-ganking/469957/328 "2024-12-30T14:51:01Z")
Ever hear of jet-can swapping? Probably not. It was before your time. You came along only after things got easy. That was when a single destroyer could take out a mining barge in 1.0 space. I’ve done it. Now, it takes several destroyers to take out a mining barge! That’s what you do and call it skill. All those destroyers attacking a single ship without weapons. Drones might take out one of the destroyers, but that’s not going to turn the tide. There’s no skill in a bunch of combat ships ganging up on one mining ship. The mere fact that you think that there is proves that you’ve never played a real PvP game- and if you have, you weren’t very good at it. So you come here and team up with other people to do no-skill attacks. This game has come a long way from jet-can swapping mining barge solos to ganking 30 to 1 against a mining barge. You only want people to think you’re skilled in order to feel supreme in the face of your choices. Just being a number in a group bothers you. ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2024, 3:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/elite-pvp-vs-ganking/469957/329 "2024-12-30T15:00:13Z")
> [@Glenduil](#): > > Low sec and null sec PvP is about cat and mouse and power and numbers. The skill is winning a fight without stumbling into a fight you can’t win. Meanwhile back in the real world…of the 50 Ventures taken out since 11am today…46 were in lowsec or null. Of the 50 Retrievers destroyed in that time…39 were in lowsec or null. Elite PvP ! ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2024, 3:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/elite-pvp-vs-ganking/469957/330 "2024-12-30T15:04:18Z")
Learning experiences to watch local. Of course, most low or null venture pilots only worry about making that first load. Then they’ve struck profit and no longer care if they get destroyed. Ventures are just about free and only take one trip before they’re paid off. There was a guy in reddit recently who detailed that out. He carefully watches out for enemies only for the first trip- then sets an alarm. He does this until that ship gets blapped- rinse repeat. He gets blown up but still makes money. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/elite-pvp-vs-ganking/469957.md?page=15) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/elite-pvp-vs-ganking/469957.md?page=17)