# EM/BJK10 joint announcement **URL:** \ **Category:** Intergalactic Summit\ **Created:** [June 24, 2019, 4:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/em-bjk10-joint-announcement/169438 "2019-06-24T16:53:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 31
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 1:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/em-bjk10-joint-announcement/169438/31 "2019-06-25T01:18:09Z")
> [@Havohej](#): > > ‘Typical Gallente’ is ad hominem attacks and bad faith arguments flavored with generic zeitgeist passed off as meaningful discussion. That _does_ seem to be how you used it, yeah. > [@Charles\_Cambridge\_Schmidt](#): > > an otherworldly invasion force that was stoked by independent, non-empire Capsuleers attacking the Trigs en masse This doesn’t really line up with the behavior they displayed. The entire structure of the Cladistic Proving grounds demonstrates _incentivization_ for us to continue to go into the Abyss in order to participate in their Provings. As has been discussed before, the caches serve no other purpose than as cheese in the maze. The Triglavians certainly had no need to leave matierals and blueprints and skill books sitting in those pockets, accessible only after all forces (including theirs) were destroyed. All in all, it feels more like the invasion is exactly what they frame it to be: the next step in their testing of capsuleers and ‘humanity’ (by which I mean the form of humanity found in the empires, as opposed to Jove or the Trigs themselves). Had capsuleers not gone in, and not demonstrated some level of being ‘within the flow’, the Triglavians might well have simply decided on a general policy of ‘extirpation’, rather than their ‘join the flow _or_…’ But this is getting somewhat far afield of the thread’s topic. --- _[View the full topic](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/em-bjk10-joint-announcement/169438)._