# Empire mining, hard for the little guy to compete

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**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [May 20, 2020, 9:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/empire-mining-hard-for-the-little-guy-to-compete/242709 "2020-05-20T09:52:09Z")\
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**Author:** ![AbuJana\_Ohu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/abujana_ohu/32/282195_2.png) [@AbuJana\_Ohu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/AbuJana_Ohu)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2020, 9:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/empire-mining-hard-for-the-little-guy-to-compete/242709/81 "2020-05-21T09:46:06Z")

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> [@Brun\_Warbear](#):
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> All these arguments for rebalancing risk vs reward in highsec ignore the fact that nullsec is generally safer and much higher reward than highsec.
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> High sec ain’t broke, nullsec is stagnant and low risk.
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> Fix that.

Yes … BUT that is because the security is 1. player driven and 2. more tight then in HS. You can Always roam NS with your gang but you will die as surely as in HS, killed by players instead of NPCs. If you want to Change that … join Bombers bar or some other corp or “Event” to roam NS and kill some mostly defenseless Targets … and Maybe get ■■■■■■ up by People who actually know how to pvp. Not like those gankers shooting at defenseless targets and getting away with that.

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**Author:** ![Scarlet\_Starfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scarlet_starfire/32/244125_2.png) [@Scarlet\_Starfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scarlet_Starfire)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2020, 11:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/empire-mining-hard-for-the-little-guy-to-compete/242709/83 "2020-05-22T11:25:53Z")

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> [@Nico\_Christened](#):
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> Seriously, why even log if I know when I fly to an ice belt a guy will soon land with a providence, 10 skiffs, and an Orca. This is someone the developers should target because it ruins gameplay for those interested in industrial activities.

Why would CCP want to get rid of 11 accounts just so you feel it’s fair?

Life isn’t fair the game isn’t fair, just the way things are.

Anyway, I fail to see why what they are doing ruins your game.

Ice mining has to be one of the most boring things in-game anyway, even more boring than rock mining.

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**Author:** ![Surly\_Bill](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/surly_bill/32/221329_2.png) [@Surly\_Bill](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Surly_Bill)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2020, 7:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/empire-mining-hard-for-the-little-guy-to-compete/242709/84 "2020-05-23T07:13:49Z")

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**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2020, 7:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/empire-mining-hard-for-the-little-guy-to-compete/242709/85 "2020-08-21T07:13:54Z")

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