# Encounter Surveilance System Formulas?

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**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [July 10, 2022, 12:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/encounter-surveilance-system-formulas/369707 "2022-07-10T12:47:21Z")\
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**Author:** ![Di\_Jiensai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/di_jiensai/32/433165_2.png) [@Di\_Jiensai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Di_Jiensai)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2022, 12:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/encounter-surveilance-system-formulas/369707/1 "2022-07-10T12:47:21Z")

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Hi,

I can’t find any current information on the Math used to determine how much isk go where when the ESS are involved.

I Seem to remember that there was an interview and update to the Math around Fanfest, but I can’t find any post or other with actual information.

Could someone point me to / give me some formulas to calculate where ISK end up (Main/Reserver/Payout)

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**Author:** ![Koinigas\_Wara\_Heleneto](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/koinigas_wara_heleneto/32/327404_2.png) [@Koinigas\_Wara\_Heleneto](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Koinigas_Wara_Heleneto)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2022, 5:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/encounter-surveilance-system-formulas/369707/2 "2022-07-10T17:24:08Z")

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They are hopefully fixing it to be more fair and generate more content. @CCP_Rattati mentioned that new features will be 100% of isk to go to the ESS only and large bonuses to the payout when successfully defended. If not defended or if no combat for ESS occurs in the new window the isk will be lost.

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**Author:** ![Di\_Jiensai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/di_jiensai/32/433165_2.png) [@Di\_Jiensai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Di_Jiensai)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2022, 5:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/encounter-surveilance-system-formulas/369707/3 "2022-07-10T17:33:15Z")

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Where do you have that from?  
And @CCP could you PLEASE put some documentation somewhere.  
It’s not like this is super secred information that can be used to break the game.

PLEASE

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**Author:** ![Dark\_Lord\_Trump](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dark_lord_trump/32/411482_2.png) [@Dark\_Lord\_Trump](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dark_Lord_Trump)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2022, 11:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/encounter-surveilance-system-formulas/369707/4 "2022-07-10T23:44:56Z")

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He has it from his ass. CCP isn’t _that_ stupid.

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**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2022, 11:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/encounter-surveilance-system-formulas/369707/5 "2022-10-08T23:45:09Z")

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