# Encounter Surveillance System Update **URL:** \ **Category:** Announcements\ **Tags:** feedback, official, devblog\ **Created:** [October 30, 2020, 5:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/encounter-surveillance-system-update/277014 "2020-10-30T17:28:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 1265
**Author:** ![Litsea\_Reticulata](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/litsea_reticulata/32/328016_2.png) [@Litsea\_Reticulata](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Litsea_Reticulata)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2020, 9:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/encounter-surveillance-system-update/277014/1265 "2020-11-28T09:38:48Z")
This again. > [@Scoots\_Choco](#): > > wow 5 killmails~ There are more today, though its not like the ESS thing has been around that long and this is specifically about ESS and filaments being anti-PvP. > [@Scoots\_Choco](#): > > An insult because you’ve got no actual response, cool. I get that you insult me, but you’re shitting on people who are blue to you and people who pay for your stuff via renting? > [@Scoots\_Choco](#): > > CCP isn’t “moving goalposts” here. They’re developing the game. If they are developing, they sure as hell aren’t using agile or scrum… Waterfall might be more appropriate, since everything is going downhill, despite this people are still posting overly optimistic pieces [State of The Game, 2020 Edition - #164 by Ghost\_O\_Mo](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/state-of-the-game-2020-edition/281992/164) that purport otherwise. > [@Scoots\_Choco](#): > > It’s too easy to farm ore - nerf ore. Because nerfing the rorqual multiple times wasn’t enough? > [@Scoots\_Choco](#): > > It’s too easy to farm isk - add risk and opportunities for theft Like nerfing the supers several more times so they no longer print 500 million an hour? Hang on, doesn’t TAPI allow ratting in supers? > [@Scoots\_Choco](#): > > Just because the changes hurt carebears in the short term (btw, the devblog says this kind of shortage is only temporary while they work through the bloat) doesn’t mean they’re “moving goalposts” or “regularly dropping the ball”. They’re developers taking an unprecedented action to save the game that’s been filling up with garbage for 3 years. Oh this is rich, ‘unprecedented action’ in ‘unprecedented times’ sounds like some BS cooked up by a BR team. CCP have made some epic mistakes and they have only themselves to blame. What’s TAPI’s plan on paying for fortress delve 2.0 after the war without having care bears to make isk? Or is everyone going to roll into PH and just do mercenary contracts to fight each other? > [@Scoots\_Choco](#): > > Now you’re just putting words in my mouth, claiming your words are my argument, and then attacking the argument you came up with. I’d rather get your fingers out of your ears than put words in your mouth, but its not like I’ll cure your ignorance either way. > [@Scoots\_Choco](#): > > Blackout. > > Turns out CCP devs aren’t psychic and know exactly what the outcome of their changes are. Are you going to fault them for being humans? Back up a paragraph. Hurting care bears is okay and CCP is not dropping the ball, but the mistake of blackout is all forgiven because they are just human? Give it a rest. CCP have some really smart people working for them and a player representative body in the CSM that no other game has, yet when CCP get told that something is a bad idea and they do it anyway, and muddle the data with a bunch of login events, when it cuts into their bottom line, that’s just a little flaw people should overlook? > [@Scoots\_Choco](#): > > Do you remember how many times they redid the New Player Experience, re-iterating to find what work, Tried it when I first started. Tried it again on a new character when it was this tour on rails. Didn’t like either one and both just result in the same hand off to career agents afterwards. > [@Scoots\_Choco](#): > > It’s called learning. Trying to shame CCP with a single instance where a mechanic didn’t magically turn out to be 100% amazing is incredibly immature and shortsighted of you. Oh CCP knows resource wars and blackout were bad ideas. The people who should truly be ashamed are all the miscreants that asserted blackout was so going to be so good for the game, then a fortnight later were complaining because there was nobody to fight that wasn’t operating under a giant super umbrella. > [@Scoots\_Choco](#): > > What’s worse is the implication you’re trying to make here that because Resource Wars failed, CCP doesn’t know what they’re doing (protip: most people don’t), and thus CCP should instead listen to random kids on the forums. I’ll take random kids on the forums over shills on reddit any day. This forum exists to give people not in the CSM a voice and all too often your interactions on this medium are nothing short of devisive, ignorant trolling, including of your own blues! > [@Scoots\_Choco](#): > > > doesn’t present evidence > > claims to present evidence > > yeah okay Go look up those zkills yourself if you think they are made up. No? > [@Oskar\_Milde](#): > > I gotta say Scoots that if you think folks aren’t filamenting in and out if they don’t like the look of a system, you need more cloaky camping alts! Or this guy? > [@Gale\_Nahrnid](#): > > Unfortunately there’s something called pochven filaments, which the thieves use to _Immediately_ return to a place where they could redeem their bonds. This one too? > [@Gale\_Nahrnid](#): > > Last time we tried to catch a fleet, and we forced them into a dead-end system, but when I entered the system, I didn’t see any hostiles. They must have filamented away. And this is very frustrating to see.If Theft is this easy, why would people be productive if they could form a fleet and have a fast battleship in it, and steal stuff from other people, and just filament away, back into trig space to cash in their bonds? Or that? > [@Scoots\_Choco](#): > > Off topic. Don’t warp too far or you’ll fall off the edge of Eve into that spot labeled “That be dragons”, right? > [@Scoots\_Choco](#): > > There’s a reason why CCP devs interact more often on Reddit than on here, just fyi. Fewer trolls? > [@Scoots\_Choco](#): > > Then people with ISK in their pockets will. Have you tried not being poor? Have you tried not being a Troll? Was CODE closed the day you went looking for a corp? > [@Scoots\_Choco](#): > > Renters as a concept are garbage so if there are less of this nonesense, it’s better for the game overall, regardless of “balanced and fun”. Aren’t you in TAPI? Don’t they have renters? Or does your myopia extented to your own back yard as well at that of your neighbours? Whats the plan on funding SRP without all the renters to do all the work for it? --- _[View the full topic](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/encounter-surveillance-system-update/277014)._