# Ending the trade window scam

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ending-the-trade-window-scam/246622>\
**Category:** Player Features & Ideas\
**Created:** [June 4, 2020, 12:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ending-the-trade-window-scam/246622 "2020-06-04T12:45:02Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 6\
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**Author:** ![Hitault\_Effor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hitault_effor/32/206746_2.png) [@Hitault\_Effor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hitault_Effor)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2020, 12:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ending-the-trade-window-scam/246622/1 "2020-06-04T12:45:03Z")

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Change the trade window such that as soon as 1 person hits accept, the trade cannot be changed. The trade must be cancelled and restarted if both do not agree.

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**Author:** ![Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/archer_en_tilavine/32/461718_2.png) [@Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Archer_en_Tilavine)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2020, 12:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ending-the-trade-window-scam/246622/2 "2020-06-04T12:51:55Z")

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A similar change - I don’t remember the details (I think it was with trying to lower ISK) - was implemented some time ago. Are you still encountering a problem? You should pull up the dev blog and see if the not-too-long-ago solution is sufficient or not.

The best solution isn’t to abort the trade, but to simply automatically revoke acceptance so there is no bait-and-switch, and I think this is already taking place. I haven’t done direct trades in a while so I don’t remember for sure, but if it isn’t already happening it most certainly should.

If you REALLY have a problem with this, direct contracts have no fees associated with them apart from a flat 10,000ISK Broker fee (whereas public contracts have nasty fees associated with them).

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**Author:** ![Hitault\_Effor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hitault_effor/32/206746_2.png) [@Hitault\_Effor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hitault_Effor)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2020, 12:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ending-the-trade-window-scam/246622/3 "2020-06-04T12:53:08Z")

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The problem is that the scammer is now changing the number quickly, hoping that the value changes between the time he sees the correct number and the scammed clicks accept.

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**Author:** ![Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/archer_en_tilavine/32/461718_2.png) [@Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Archer_en_Tilavine)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2020, 12:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ending-the-trade-window-scam/246622/4 "2020-06-04T12:57:27Z")

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This is incorrect. This is literally the change that was implemented not that long ago - a change that requires a new window to be opened. The change had to do with ISK.

And like I said: if you don’t like the dynamic nature of trades (which should not be -too- static), then use private contracts.

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**Author:** ![Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/archer_en_tilavine/32/461718_2.png) [@Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Archer_en_Tilavine)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2020, 1:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ending-the-trade-window-scam/246622/5 "2020-06-04T13:03:52Z")

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> **[The Free Market Release is here! | EVE Online](https://www.eveonline.com/news/view/the-free-market-release-is-here)**
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> Slick new wallet UI, trade improvements, and HyperNet Relay feature are now available.

Anti-Scam measure:

> once an ISK amount has been added to a trade offer, the amount of ISK in the trade offer cannot be reduced.

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**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2020, 1:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ending-the-trade-window-scam/246622/6 "2020-09-02T13:03:59Z")

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