# Eve and toxic pilots, why CCP is looking away? **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [January 1, 2024, 3:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-and-toxic-pilots-why-ccp-is-looking-away/434650 "2024-01-01T15:45:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2024, 10:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-and-toxic-pilots-why-ccp-is-looking-away/434650/65 "2024-01-02T22:44:15Z")
He should be banned for his lies ---
**Author:** ![Nabi\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nabi_kim/32/390748_2.png) [@Nabi\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nabi_Kim)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2024, 10:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-and-toxic-pilots-why-ccp-is-looking-away/434650/66 "2024-01-02T22:44:23Z")
> [@Gualu\_Echerie](#): > > hey, don’t stop showing to disturb me, then you will get much lesser pings… ok… more timer then… 😛 > > and hey, you guys know when you permacamp me I will start creating timer… so you guys requested these attacks… when you want complain about the attacks on the pocos, talk to your alliance member who are camping all the time… That’s a pretty toxic mindset, Gualu. You are responsible for your actions, not your victims. Sidenote: Gualu has spent 3 years and 60+ billion ISK trying to claim a single R64 in LowSec. ---
**Author:** ![Borealis\_Majora](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/borealis_majora/32/405293_2.png) [@Borealis\_Majora](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Borealis_Majora)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2024, 10:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-and-toxic-pilots-why-ccp-is-looking-away/434650/67 "2024-01-02T22:45:24Z")
![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/5/4/4/5443e33d889a806d36b78f1015959647163403e2.jpeg) It appears that you lack the military force to hold a structure in this system. Perhaps you should spend your time looking for a new one instead of posting on the forums? ---
**Author:** ![Piolp](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/piolp/32/471021_2.png) [@Piolp](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Piolp)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2024, 10:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-and-toxic-pilots-why-ccp-is-looking-away/434650/68 "2024-01-02T22:46:11Z")
I should add a /S at the end of my last message, my bad. While Gualu didnt own the moon for 2 years, he logged in and watched the structure there all day every day. Literally perma camping it. We did not care for the most part. Though he DID cause pings all day every day if he could. It became known as “Gualu duty” like taking care of an ill tempered child in need of their diaper changed. lol. This whole thread has turned into the evenings entertainment for the alliance because of the absolute lunacy of the whole thing. We love this. ---
**Author:** ![Gualu\_Echerie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gualu_echerie/32/390752_2.png) [@Gualu\_Echerie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gualu_Echerie)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2024, 10:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-and-toxic-pilots-why-ccp-is-looking-away/434650/69 "2024-01-02T22:48:51Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > As a neutral third party observer, I must interject that it’s unlikely someone would be wholly unaware that 88 is a common fascist symbol, and while I am sure there is a plausible reason someone might use it unknowingly, the explanation “a 8 on the site is unlimited and it is the most symetric char…” sounds very contrived. One might just as reasonably choose symmetrical O, H, T, W, or many other such characters. When you consider that if 8 = H, then the tag becomes HeilH, and one really has to wonder. I must conclude it is more likely than not, that the name was chosen for malicious reasons. I understood what you mean, but I didn’t know that at that time. and I don’t act like a rassist/nationalist, and only one these one indication isn’t really saying anything… ---
**Author:** ![Nabi\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nabi_kim/32/390748_2.png) [@Nabi\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nabi_Kim)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2024, 10:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-and-toxic-pilots-why-ccp-is-looking-away/434650/70 "2024-01-02T22:49:14Z")
> [@Gualu\_Echerie](#): > > I understood what you mean, but I didn’t know that at that time. and I don’t act like a rassist/nationalist, and only one these one indication isn’t really saying anything… Except when you call people “k\*kes” of course. ---
**Author:** ![Planetary\_Stalker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/planetary_stalker/32/405235_2.png) [@Planetary\_Stalker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Planetary_Stalker)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2024, 10:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-and-toxic-pilots-why-ccp-is-looking-away/434650/71 "2024-01-02T22:56:35Z")
My favorite picture from the whole saga was the one that looked at how likely it was that WHBOO would get a Gualu ping during a particular timeslot each week. ![gualu-prob](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/3/1/0/31075a67c955a92f8fd72166294b6616eb42354d.png) Imagine being harassed so much that you had to quantify it and create a heatmap just so you know when you’re able to sleep versus when you need someone to handle Gualu duty. ---
**Author:** ![Nabi\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nabi_kim/32/390748_2.png) [@Nabi\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nabi_Kim)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2024, 10:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-and-toxic-pilots-why-ccp-is-looking-away/434650/72 "2024-01-02T22:57:31Z")
> [@Planetary\_Stalker](#): > > Imagine being harassed so much that you had to quantify it and create a heatmap just so you know when you’re able to sleep versus when you need someone to handle Gualu duty. No no you have it all wrong. That wasn’t harassment just to create pings - he was legitimately making an attempt to destroy the Athanor with his single stealth bomber each time! ---
**Author:** ![Gualu\_Echerie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gualu_echerie/32/390752_2.png) [@Gualu\_Echerie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gualu_Echerie)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2024, 11:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-and-toxic-pilots-why-ccp-is-looking-away/434650/73 "2024-01-02T23:09:31Z")
> [@Nabi\_Kim](#): > > And while you have people blocked, you follow them around from system to system and threaten to report them for naming their ships after you: > > ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/4/0/5/405f7d1bc3c1dd0c482db2c8aa0314b9c4d0f593.png) > > Why is what you do not “harassment”? > > Why is it okay for you to use alts to talk to people but not others…? yeah, thats again a good example how Xuixien act… Nabi Kim is one of xuixiens ganking alts… first thats was in local, so he can decide himself if he want see what I write in local or if he want block me to not read it… second point, thats one of my alts I’m using all the time, they know them… third, all can see that was all in one system, no gatejump between, opening a ticket need few min, so I wasn’t following him… so not compareable to using unknown alts to write ingame mails… but yeah, a good example about their spreading of lies… > [@Piolp](#): > > Stop permacamping my system of vevelonel, you are the permacamper, you’ve ALWAYS been the permacamper. again a nice example… complain I woulkd permacamp my homesystem… lol… thats too I’m talking about… they lost every relation to reality… ---
**Author:** ![Nabi\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nabi_kim/32/390748_2.png) [@Nabi\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nabi_Kim)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2024, 11:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-and-toxic-pilots-why-ccp-is-looking-away/434650/74 "2024-01-02T23:15:36Z")
I will now address the specific claims in the OP: > [@Gualu\_Echerie](#): > > to me he is doing his psychogames now nearly 3 years I think it’s a bygone conclusion, as documented in this thread, that you started the whole conflict because you “claim” Vevelonel as your own. > [@Gualu\_Echerie](#): > > his Hecate named “Gualu is Mad LMFO” is a harmless variant As you admitted in this thread, you have WHBOO and Solar Winds blocked. There are several screenshots of you talking to WHBOO and Solar Winds via chat, despite having them blocked. And now you are whining about “harassment” because of ship names and mobile depots? > [@Gualu\_Echerie](#): > > Yesterday one of his guys, or maybe one of his alts left a blocked corp to post herassement in local. The character in question literally posted: “u mad bro? lol” > [@Gualu\_Echerie](#): > > permacamping me for weeks But Gualu, haven’t you been “permacamping” Vevelonel yourself for 3 years now? > [@Gualu\_Echerie](#): > > Making a deal with whboo is impossible, because Xuixien used his corp outside whboo to attack the whboo blues Xuixien was not in WHBOO, and had no diplomatic relationships with those groups. > [@Gualu\_Echerie](#): > > I’m german, so xuixien and some whboo call me ingame and outgame a nazi Xuixien has never called you a Nazi. > [@Gualu\_Echerie](#): > > once he found out one in a chat was colored, so he and his mates started telling rassistics jokes… This never happened. > [@Gualu\_Echerie](#): > > How I’ve heard multiple other players opened tickets about Xuixien and his mates too, and I’ve heared he got at least one temporary ban. The tickets may be true. The ban is not. > [@Gualu\_Echerie](#): > > In the first days I met Xuixien, he was trying to make a deal with my corp in the name of WHBOO, ofc without any plus for me Had you accepted the deal, you would have been able to mine WHBOO’s moons in Solitude tax free, and would have been set blue. Instead you rejected the deal and demanded 30billion ISK in addition to WHBOO leaving Vevelonel. Had you accepted the deal, WHBOO would have probably not cared about you anchoring an Athanor in Vevelonel after they moved out of Solitude. Had you accepted the deal you would be mining on your moon in peace these past months. Oh well. > [@Gualu\_Echerie](#): > > there xuixien announced one time proud he destroyed my mental health This never happened. > [@Gualu\_Echerie](#): > > What do you think, should CCP ban faster these toxic player I think you realize you’ve lost and now you’re whining on the forums trying to get people banned because you can’t do anything in-game. > [@Gualu\_Echerie](#): > > And at last a word to the WHBOO pilots, I know not all of you are in xuixiens games involved, some are good pilots, but you all know what xuixien is doing, you all profit from his herassement How does WHBOO profit? ---
**Author:** ![Nabi\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nabi_kim/32/390748_2.png) [@Nabi\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nabi_Kim)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2024, 11:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-and-toxic-pilots-why-ccp-is-looking-away/434650/75 "2024-01-02T23:23:20Z")
> [@Gualu\_Echerie](#): > > but yeah, a good example about their spreading of lies… You’ve been caught in numerous lies in this thread. It’s honestly pretty pathetic that you will ticket other players to try to get them banned because you can’t beat them in-game. Maybe you should try getting good? ---
**Author:** ![Gualu\_Echerie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gualu_echerie/32/390752_2.png) [@Gualu\_Echerie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gualu_Echerie)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2024, 11:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-and-toxic-pilots-why-ccp-is-looking-away/434650/76 "2024-01-02T23:23:59Z")
> [@Nabi\_Kim](#): > > But Gualu, haven’t you been “permacamping” Vevelonel yourself for 3 years now? lol… you know it’s my homesystem since years allready… repeating I would camping there don’t make it the truth… > [@Nabi\_Kim](#): > > > [@Gualu\_Echerie](#): > > > > there xuixien announced one time proud he destroyed my mental health > > This never happened. ![xui_reddit](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/0/b/a/0ba845da91fe1cc69b42b87ca27050b6156c7246.png) [https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/twoxqz/kill\_of\_the\_week/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/twoxqz/kill_of_the_week/) hmm… ---
**Author:** ![Nabi\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nabi_kim/32/390748_2.png) [@Nabi\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nabi_Kim)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2024, 11:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-and-toxic-pilots-why-ccp-is-looking-away/434650/77 "2024-01-02T23:27:40Z")
> [@Gualu\_Echerie](#): > > lol… you know it’s my homesystem since years allready… repeating I would camping there don’t make it the truth… So you admit that you’ve been harassing WHBOO and Xuixien for years because “Vevelonel is your home system”? (BTW: Solar Winds annexed Vevelonel a month ago. People tried to inform you, but you had everyone blocked. Sorry for the inconvenience. 😄 ) > [@Gualu\_Echerie](#): > > ![xui_reddit](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/0/b/a/0ba845da91fe1cc69b42b87ca27050b6156c7246.png) > > [Reddit - Dive into anything](https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/twoxqz/kill_of_the_week/) > > hmm… Honestly that’s pretty accurate though. I guess you’re going to ignore all the other points and focus on one thing. ---
**Author:** ![Gualu\_Echerie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gualu_echerie/32/390752_2.png) [@Gualu\_Echerie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gualu_Echerie)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2024, 11:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-and-toxic-pilots-why-ccp-is-looking-away/434650/78 "2024-01-02T23:29:00Z")
now you all can see how xuixien and these whboo are acting, even spreading lies here in the forum… and posting many irrelevant answers as group, to have fun with the alliance… imaginate how that would been on reddit… from my side I see atm no more need to react on their funposts… but I like how they represent themself here, to complete the picture I gave allready… ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2024, 11:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-and-toxic-pilots-why-ccp-is-looking-away/434650/79 "2024-01-02T23:30:25Z")
Honestly, spreading lies is allowed. Welcome to EvE. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2024, 11:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-and-toxic-pilots-why-ccp-is-looking-away/434650/80 "2024-01-02T23:30:45Z")
Ah, I’m a total idiot. I see the alt-posting now. My fault for not being a forum cluckster I guess—always assume some degree of legitimacy before the skepticism kicks in. I’m gonna go ahead and make two support tickets: one for one party and Nazi symbolism, and another for the other party and OOG mental health etc. personal harassment. What a ■■■■-show all around. This thread will be gone the moment a mod wakes up, so I don’t know why these losers are even going back and forth at this point. ---
**Author:** ![Nabi\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nabi_kim/32/390748_2.png) [@Nabi\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nabi_Kim)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2024, 11:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-and-toxic-pilots-why-ccp-is-looking-away/434650/81 "2024-01-02T23:33:41Z")
> [@Gualu\_Echerie](#): > > even spreading lies here in the forum… You mean you claim that they’re lying, meanwhile you were caught in several lies. > [@Gualu\_Echerie](#): > > and posting many irrelevant answers as group > [@Gualu\_Echerie](#): > > from my side I see atm no more need to react on their funposts… but I like how they reprecent themself here, to complete the picture I gave allready… Irrelevant things… such as documenting your harassment of other players and your toxic gameplay? Ok. This entire thread has been nothing but a massive L for you. I don’t blame you for leaving. But that is pretty typical of you: when you lose the argument, suddenly you “see no point in responding” anymore. ---
**Author:** ![Occultatum\_Opus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/occultatum_opus/32/405304_2.png) [@Occultatum\_Opus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Occultatum_Opus)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2024, 11:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-and-toxic-pilots-why-ccp-is-looking-away/434650/82 "2024-01-02T23:48:48Z")
My observation of this comes in after much of the history has played out. But, it’s a new year, and short of continuing Vevelonel’s experience as New Eden’s Gaza Strip, maybe it’s time to change a little. Maybe holster the torpedos, push the simmering resentment off the front burner, and try to make 2024 better than 2023, when all the aggrieved parties were doing their best to frustrate each other. I’ve had a little sympathy for Mr. G and his situation as pinioned between his pride and an alliance unyielding in it’s position. Much of my sympathy for him was torched as he gleefully paraded around, gloating in local chat after Deepwater glassed WHBOO out of their home in Solitude, and during a period of 3 wardecs and some reinforced HS structures. Always having proxies harass and snipe at the members. I get it, though, it’s completely understandable to take a petty satisfaction from the struggles of your adversaries, especially if you can help instigate them. But, sounds like Mr. G is in need of a change, maybe even ready for it. The change needs to start with each party deciding if they’ve had enough of this fun-killing ego/power struggle, and if some reasonable and rational accommodations can be made. We can either behave as Lords or Newbies; we can’t be both. ---
**Author:** ![Gualu\_Echerie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gualu_echerie/32/390752_2.png) [@Gualu\_Echerie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gualu_Echerie)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2024, 11:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-and-toxic-pilots-why-ccp-is-looking-away/434650/83 "2024-01-02T23:50:34Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > Honestly, spreading lies is allowed. oh… you see no difference beween ingame as char and here in forum as player? ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2024, 11:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-and-toxic-pilots-why-ccp-is-looking-away/434650/84 "2024-01-02T23:52:01Z")
> [@Gualu\_Echerie](#): > > ingame as char and here in forum as player Well you literally post with your in-game character here. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-and-toxic-pilots-why-ccp-is-looking-away/434650.md?page=3) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-and-toxic-pilots-why-ccp-is-looking-away/434650.md?page=5)