# Eve Bots - are they a bad thing, is CCP complicit in their use? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [October 27, 2017, 10:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-bots-are-they-a-bad-thing-is-ccp-complicit-in-their-use/34538 "2017-10-27T10:09:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 17
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 12:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-bots-are-they-a-bad-thing-is-ccp-complicit-in-their-use/34538/329 "2017-12-13T12:09:47Z")
And thats important because? ---
**Author:** ![Andrew\_Gernander](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/andrew_gernander/32/14207_2.png) [@Andrew\_Gernander](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Andrew_Gernander)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 12:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-bots-are-they-a-bad-thing-is-ccp-complicit-in-their-use/34538/330 "2017-12-13T12:12:43Z")
Combat scanner Svipul, or any other T3D + hauler alt = free ores from dead NPC miners. Don’t even need to fight the response fleets with creative MWD and warping. ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 12:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-bots-are-they-a-bad-thing-is-ccp-complicit-in-their-use/34538/331 "2017-12-13T12:13:18Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > And thats important because? Thats simple. They cared, and I did. You didnt. You where perfectly ambivalent to bots as long as it wasnt you or your friends. You stated you wouldnt care if 90% of EVE was bots. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 12:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-bots-are-they-a-bad-thing-is-ccp-complicit-in-their-use/34538/332 "2017-12-13T12:13:46Z")
Ah I dont care about the drops. I just want to wade in and slot some barely moving targets. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 12:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-bots-are-they-a-bad-thing-is-ccp-complicit-in-their-use/34538/333 "2017-12-13T12:14:52Z")
And now Ive changed my mind in spite of anything you said. Still not seeing a point here. If you havent got one, Im sure the thread would appreciate you stopping now. ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 12:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-bots-are-they-a-bad-thing-is-ccp-complicit-in-their-use/34538/334 "2017-12-13T12:16:09Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > And now Ive changed my mind in spite of anything you said. So we where right all along. Glad you see that now. Enjoy anti-botting, now that you do care, and someone that cared provided you with means to do so. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 12:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-bots-are-they-a-bad-thing-is-ccp-complicit-in-their-use/34538/335 "2017-12-13T12:17:20Z")
Oh I will. It not being you will keep me warm as I do something knowing you cant be bothered yourself. Honestly you are so clueless, I want to be your mum. Its adorable. ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 12:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-bots-are-they-a-bad-thing-is-ccp-complicit-in-their-use/34538/336 "2017-12-13T12:18:37Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > It not being you will keep me warm as I do something knowing you cant be bothered yourself. Ive been involved in anti-bot actions for years. All those years you didnt care. ---
**Author:** ![Sindara\_T\_Soni](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sindara_t_soni/32/242945_2.png) [@Sindara\_T\_Soni](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sindara_T_Soni)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 12:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-bots-are-they-a-bad-thing-is-ccp-complicit-in-their-use/34538/337 "2017-12-13T12:20:24Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > You should have been anti-bot to begin with This again? Again? Really? Do you have to keep derailing the thread like this every time Ramona speaks? We had all moved on from what Ramona does or does not care about (well, not you apparently, and I do not mean to imply that the rest of us cared in the first place, as you may well have been the only person who did). Honestly, it’s beyond tedious, off topic and personal. Could you please attempt to get over it? ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 12:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-bots-are-they-a-bad-thing-is-ccp-complicit-in-their-use/34538/338 "2017-12-13T12:22:40Z")
> [@Sindara\_T\_Soni](#): > > Could you please attempt to get over it? No problem. My mission was a success. She didnt care before, now she does. You are right, I shouldnt rub it in her face too much. Time for a victory beer. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 12:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-bots-are-they-a-bad-thing-is-ccp-complicit-in-their-use/34538/339 "2017-12-13T12:25:21Z")
We didnt have a war in Syria or ISIS before Salvos played EvE so by that leap of logic we should thank him for those things too lol. ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 12:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-bots-are-they-a-bad-thing-is-ccp-complicit-in-their-use/34538/340 "2017-12-13T12:26:21Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > We didnt have a war in Syria or ISIS before Salvos played EvE so by that leap of logic we should thank him for those things too lol. We’ve had botters in EVE since the beginning. They have always been illegal. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 12:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-bots-are-they-a-bad-thing-is-ccp-complicit-in-their-use/34538/341 "2017-12-13T12:29:32Z")
Bye bye Salvos. The door is closing. Take care now xx ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 12:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-bots-are-they-a-bad-thing-is-ccp-complicit-in-their-use/34538/342 "2017-12-13T12:32:51Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > Bye bye Salvos. The door is closing. Take care now xx Bye Ramona. Glad you finally understood that botters have always been an illegal aspect of EVE, and one to be fought. Ive been doing it for years, but atleast now you “care” enough to acknowledge that, even if its not you or your friends botting. Usually people “care” about people violating the terms we all agree to, but meh, I guess some like you dont. Up to you if you care whether people break the terms we all agreed to. ---
**Author:** ![Anna\_Phylaxxis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anna_phylaxxis/32/208602_2.png) [@Anna\_Phylaxxis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anna_Phylaxxis)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2017, 6:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-bots-are-they-a-bad-thing-is-ccp-complicit-in-their-use/34538/343 "2017-12-15T06:54:52Z")
Delivered another doseage of Antimatter in Poinen. > **[Greater Itamo Mafia | Alliance](https://zkillboard.com/alliance/99007165/)** > > Greater Itamo Mafia: 195 ships destroyed and 90 ships lost. A whole bunch of missioning pods, should be a ‘dead’ giveaway. And thanks Mr T for the contribution, that will help deliver some more cleansing 😃 👍 ---
**Author:** ![Eternus8lux8lucis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eternus8lux8lucis/32/385152_2.png) [@Eternus8lux8lucis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eternus8lux8lucis)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2017, 8:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-bots-are-they-a-bad-thing-is-ccp-complicit-in-their-use/34538/344 "2017-12-15T20:03:25Z")
The ones in umokka are back at it out of Top Down. Its so sad you cant keep them away for long. ---
**Author:** ![Wanda\_Fayne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wanda_fayne/32/377654_2.png) [@Wanda\_Fayne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wanda_Fayne)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2017, 9:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-bots-are-they-a-bad-thing-is-ccp-complicit-in-their-use/34538/345 "2017-12-16T09:28:50Z")
Noted… ---
**Author:** ![March\_rabbit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/march_rabbit/32/453160_2.png) [@March\_rabbit](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/March_rabbit)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2017, 11:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-bots-are-they-a-bad-thing-is-ccp-complicit-in-their-use/34538/346 "2017-12-16T11:00:06Z")
Thanks guys for doing pressure on botting! ---
**Author:** ![dronesdronesdrones](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dronesdronesdrones/32/44013_2.png) [@dronesdronesdrones](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/dronesdronesdrones)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2017, 11:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-bots-are-they-a-bad-thing-is-ccp-complicit-in-their-use/34538/347 "2017-12-16T11:05:28Z")
This might be relevant: [https://forums.eveonline.com/t/botsoffline-com-an-attempt-to-fight-ratting-bots](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/botsoffline-com-an-attempt-to-fight-ratting-bots) ---
**Author:** ![Mathra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mathra/32/416373_2.png) [@Mathra](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mathra)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2017, 3:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-bots-are-they-a-bad-thing-is-ccp-complicit-in-their-use/34538/348 "2017-12-16T15:34:41Z")
**30 mill reward for proof of destruction of a known hauler bot** Wanda Faynes and co are doing some good work hitting the hauler bots - but we could really do with others stepping up to the mark and assisting in ganking them. 2 or 3 T1 catalysts are all that’s needed, and perhaps a newbi alt to pull concorde away To that end, I’ve started liquidating my assets and now offer a **30 mill reward for proof of destruction of a known hauler bot** from this time forward, by way of a verified zkill emailed ingame to this account - I will pay once only for a kill, the person who emailed me, so if several are on it make sure you co-ordinate - they also need to be on my list, so if you want to do it don’t gank the first guy that comes along in a wreath - email me ingame for the list of names if you are interested - and you get to keep and resell the cargo if you wish **so… burn them all and actually do something good in the process** If you dont want to gank, then find 'nests and report them here and ingame ‘for what its worth’. Spotting them is straight forward, you will find a dozen, up to 4 dozen toons, all under 7 months old (Alpha’s) , probably all created on the same date for that ‘particular nest’, all running hauler missions out of the same station, in wreaths, Nereus’s or recently Badgers , 24/7, like buses Stations as of now which they are operating out of are : Poinen II - Moon 3 - Expert Distribution Retail. - 0.6 - 25 bots running from this location Hurtoken IV - Moon 7 - Perkone Warehouse -0.6 - 36 bots running from this location Airkio II - Sukuuvestaa Corporation factory -0.9 - 11 Bots - all made 11th Oct 2017 - all now using badgers Umokka X Moon 6 - ‘Top Down Station’ - 0.6 - 15 bots running from this location As for the Jita market bots, they are getting more plentiful by the day and my list of those that I’ve identified and operating grows daily and now stands in excess of 113. Look out for multiple 3 day and less buy orders in multiple waves, with the waves usually being +.01 apart. They will be on high turnover, high value goods with a marked difference between buy and sell - If you suspect put up a buy of your own and see how quickly one of the waves react. Equally, you can sell to them and they will be NPC, maybe in a one person corp, usually less that 6 months old and sometimes with dodgy RMT histories. If they are buying they will also be selling - again look at the sells and you will again see multiple waves of sells +0.01 or at the same value. If you can, try and manipulate them, though they will have a ceiling and floor value set for their goods, so it can be difficult to do. Here’s an example which went up a couple of hours ago- and if you don’t believe me sell to them and I can bet the ‘buyers’ are already on my list - and I know of hundreds of items that are similar, across all areas of the market ![Bot Buy orders](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/2/f/2f0ff58fc6d259e7da0c572610007e11f4198136.png) All bots have been reported to CCP, weeks, in some cases, months ago [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-bots-are-they-a-bad-thing-is-ccp-complicit-in-their-use/34538.md?page=16) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-bots-are-they-a-bad-thing-is-ccp-complicit-in-their-use/34538.md?page=18)