# Eve Bots - are they a bad thing, is CCP complicit in their use?

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-bots-are-they-a-bad-thing-is-ccp-complicit-in-their-use/34538>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [October 27, 2017, 10:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-bots-are-they-a-bad-thing-is-ccp-complicit-in-their-use/34538 "2017-10-27T10:09:55Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2018, 1:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-bots-are-they-a-bad-thing-is-ccp-complicit-in-their-use/34538/1316 "2018-02-14T13:45:09Z")

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Im being moderated by community for “HTFU” posts 😃

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**Author:** ![Baba\_Ji](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/baba_ji/32/36487_2.png) [@Baba\_Ji](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Baba_Ji)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2018, 2:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-bots-are-they-a-bad-thing-is-ccp-complicit-in-their-use/34538/1317 "2018-02-14T14:29:26Z")

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This thread has no clear topic and strayed from the original many times due to CCP additions and the players.  
Self moderation is an option as I have chose to do like yesterday. Not from winning or losing an argument. Mainly because it made no sense to continue.

Text book approaches do have a value,however the human factor will always over take the outcome or solution. Often the clarifications in the cyclical nature of these topics lead to variations of the main content and its objectives. No one is innocent of that. Including you. The guide lines of discourse obviously are in a text form yet they are derived from humanity. That means discourse is a part of the process even if it doesn’t follow what people expect.

> **[Sadri (clothing)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bandi_(jacket))**
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> Sadri (Hindi: सदरी, Urdu: صدری‎), also known as a Waskat (Hindi: वास्कट, Urdu: واسکٹ‎) or Bandi (Hindi: बंडी, Urdu: بنڈی‎), is a vest-jacket worn by men in South Asia, while women sometimes wear a similar waistcoat known as a Koti (Hindi: कोटी, Urdu: کوٹی‎). In Europe and America, the sadri became known as a Nehru vest.
> The word Bandi is derived from badhnati (Sanskrit: बध्नाति) meaning to fasten or to tie.
> The sadri is a sleeveless-vest jacket, traditionally worn over achkan, angarkha, qameez ...

  
English words are English words if written in English. Its a challenge to have discourse when arrogant deterrents insist on a rigid structure based on ignorance.

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**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2018, 2:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-bots-are-they-a-bad-thing-is-ccp-complicit-in-their-use/34538/1318 "2018-02-14T14:33:56Z")

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> [@Baba\_Ji](#):
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> This thread has no clear topic and strayed from the original many times due to CCP additions and the players.

You are one of the primary purveyors of derailment in this thread.

> [@Baba\_Ji](#):
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> English words are English words if written in English. Its a challenge to have discourse when arrogant deterrents insist on a rigid structure based on ignorance.

“Bandi” did not mean what you stated it to mean.  
The English word for that, is “bandy”.  
That you are ignorant of that, is nobodies fault, except your own.

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**Author:** ![Baba\_Ji](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/baba_ji/32/36487_2.png) [@Baba\_Ji](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Baba_Ji)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2018, 3:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-bots-are-they-a-bad-thing-is-ccp-complicit-in-their-use/34538/1319 "2018-02-14T15:07:08Z")

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Bandi as to Tie(tye)  
Tie as to Bind  
Bind as to Attach  
Attach as to Adhere  
Adhere as to combine a meaning to a word that is defined as traditional,accepted,formal.

To bind words to other words by way of informal expression provided by inference,implications of a known language through use and extended apply by social accepted norms.

Only one who knows a language history by their own experience living within their society. Not from without.

It was a synonym perhaps in the third cousin to its basic relative.  
To a lesser degree a non sexual double entendre. Albeit not truly humorous in design.

I may actually know about about half of one million English words. Of course I haven’t counted them but its far and few between in time that I encounter an English word I don’t know. When that occurs I pursue its meaning and usage as far as is sensible.

It did mean exactly what I meant it to mean. In the context provided by its association of the post.

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**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2018, 3:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-bots-are-they-a-bad-thing-is-ccp-complicit-in-their-use/34538/1320 "2018-02-14T15:28:25Z")

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> [@Baba\_Ji](#):
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> Only one who knows a language history by their own experience living within their society. Not from without.

You fked up.

“Bandy” is the word you where looking for.

Own that and get over it.

English is my third language. I’m not going to hold a simple mistake against you.  
But if you persist with this horsecrap, I will.

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**Author:** ![Buoytender\_Bob](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/buoytender_bob/32/374377_2.png) [@Buoytender\_Bob](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Buoytender_Bob)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2018, 3:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-bots-are-they-a-bad-thing-is-ccp-complicit-in-their-use/34538/1321 "2018-02-14T15:36:33Z")

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You are my new hero! Keep exposing the EULA violators using the Public Records available to all players; after all, you are not divulging anything private, just info that any player could look up.

CCP needs to offer toon uniforms,ship skins, and forum titles for knowledgeable people like you trying to clean up EVE:

Inspector of IBIS ( Imperial Beareau of Internal Security) or some other perk.

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**Author:** ![Celengan\_Babi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/celengan_babi/32/432837_2.png) [@Celengan\_Babi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Celengan_Babi)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2018, 3:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-bots-are-they-a-bad-thing-is-ccp-complicit-in-their-use/34538/1322 "2018-02-14T15:42:46Z")

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Thank you for your effort! Much appreciated!

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**Author:** ![Zircon\_Dasher](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zircon_dasher/32/36736_2.png) [@Zircon\_Dasher](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zircon_Dasher)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2018, 3:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-bots-are-they-a-bad-thing-is-ccp-complicit-in-their-use/34538/1323 "2018-02-14T15:48:18Z")

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> [@Teckos\_Pech](#):
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> Also, he says players going inactive should correlate with ISK faucets. But if there is a lag between going inactive and ISK faucets his lack of correlation is not surprising.

Why even go that far? Having a fat wallet does not mean you generate any ISK yourself.

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**Author:** ![Dinsdale\_Pirannha](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dinsdale_pirannha/32/254927_2.png) [@Dinsdale\_Pirannha](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dinsdale_Pirannha)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2018, 3:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-bots-are-they-a-bad-thing-is-ccp-complicit-in-their-use/34538/1324 "2018-02-14T15:53:38Z")

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Brilliant work sir.

I quite enjoy that this was done in an hour and from a random character.  
The fact that a player with none of the tools CCP supposedly has can nail this much detail just shows what could be done if CCP actually paid more than lip service to botters and RMT’ers.

The ultimate questions are what group the player is affiliated with, how many paying accounts he has, and also if he is using a website that CCP feels does not get involved with credit card fraud, which is the true killer for CCP.

Rest assured, this character and his web of alts will be still churning away next week.

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**Author:** ![Jorad\_Todako](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jorad_todako/32/195448_2.png) [@Jorad\_Todako](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jorad_Todako)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2018, 4:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-bots-are-they-a-bad-thing-is-ccp-complicit-in-their-use/34538/1325 "2018-02-14T16:49:00Z")

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Im about to

![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/5/4/542cffb204af8721885de580d113e5b24f69fb59.gif)

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**Author:** ![Zircon\_Dasher](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zircon_dasher/32/36736_2.png) [@Zircon\_Dasher](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zircon_Dasher)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2018, 5:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-bots-are-they-a-bad-thing-is-ccp-complicit-in-their-use/34538/1326 "2018-02-14T17:18:53Z")

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Crap in your pants? 🤣

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**Author:** ![Gadget\_Helmsdottir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gadget_helmsdottir/32/374037_2.png) [@Gadget\_Helmsdottir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gadget_Helmsdottir)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2018, 7:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-bots-are-they-a-bad-thing-is-ccp-complicit-in-their-use/34538/1327 "2018-02-14T19:22:00Z")

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> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#):
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> nobodies

nobody’s

–Helpful Gadget

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**Author:** ![Teckos\_Pech](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/teckos_pech/32/375283_2.png) [@Teckos\_Pech](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Teckos_Pech)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2018, 7:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-bots-are-they-a-bad-thing-is-ccp-complicit-in-their-use/34538/1328 "2018-02-14T19:26:17Z")

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Good point.

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**Author:** ![Teckos\_Pech](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/teckos_pech/32/375283_2.png) [@Teckos\_Pech](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Teckos_Pech)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2018, 7:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-bots-are-they-a-bad-thing-is-ccp-complicit-in-their-use/34538/1329 "2018-02-14T19:30:33Z")

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Thanks for the breakdown there. Just couldn’t dig up the motivation being tired.

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**Author:** ![Anne\_Dieu-le-veut](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anne_dieu-le-veut/32/148292_2.png) [@Anne\_Dieu-le-veut](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anne_Dieu-le-veut)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2018, 8:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-bots-are-they-a-bad-thing-is-ccp-complicit-in-their-use/34538/1330 "2018-02-14T20:43:31Z")

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CCP should be embarrassed a random player is better than they are at finding bots/RMT. They should pay you a commission.

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**Author:** ![Jorad\_Todako](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jorad_todako/32/195448_2.png) [@Jorad\_Todako](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jorad_Todako)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2018, 9:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-bots-are-they-a-bad-thing-is-ccp-complicit-in-their-use/34538/1331 "2018-02-14T21:37:31Z")

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![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/3/b/3bb9babbbe24f32f190283edcfd23a81104b269d.gif)

xxxx

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**Author:** ![Dinsdale\_Pirannha](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dinsdale_pirannha/32/254927_2.png) [@Dinsdale\_Pirannha](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dinsdale_Pirannha)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2018, 9:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-bots-are-they-a-bad-thing-is-ccp-complicit-in-their-use/34538/1332 "2018-02-14T21:37:37Z")

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CCP will likely find a way to shut down this thread, since they don’t want this kind of truth about their efforts being common knowledge, as opposed to the propaganda we get from them.

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**Author:** ![Wanda\_Fayne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wanda_fayne/32/377654_2.png) [@Wanda\_Fayne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wanda_Fayne)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2018, 9:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-bots-are-they-a-bad-thing-is-ccp-complicit-in-their-use/34538/1333 "2018-02-14T21:38:50Z")

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Actually the opposite is happening. They are funnelling all the threads into this one 😉

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**Author:** ![Dinsdale\_Pirannha](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dinsdale_pirannha/32/254927_2.png) [@Dinsdale\_Pirannha](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dinsdale_Pirannha)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2018, 9:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-bots-are-they-a-bad-thing-is-ccp-complicit-in-their-use/34538/1334 "2018-02-14T21:42:55Z")

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> [@Wanda\_Fayne](#):
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> Actually the opposite is happening. They are funnelling all the threads into this one 😉

Which makes it easier to derail, then shut down.

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**Author:** ![Wanda\_Fayne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wanda_fayne/32/377654_2.png) [@Wanda\_Fayne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wanda_Fayne)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2018, 9:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-bots-are-they-a-bad-thing-is-ccp-complicit-in-their-use/34538/1335 "2018-02-14T21:49:44Z")

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The rollercoaster is still going. This thread has been all over the place a number of times…

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