# Eve Bots - are they a bad thing, is CCP complicit in their use? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [October 27, 2017, 10:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-bots-are-they-a-bad-thing-is-ccp-complicit-in-their-use/34538 "2017-10-27T10:09:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 499
**Author:** ![Old\_Pervert](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/old_pervert/32/149708_2.png) [@Old\_Pervert](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Old_Pervert)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 6:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-bots-are-they-a-bad-thing-is-ccp-complicit-in-their-use/34538/499 "2018-01-17T18:03:53Z")
@CCP_Falcon So this is some majorly rough spitballing, but what about crowd-sourcing the bot hunting. I’m not certain what metrics you keep, but they could surely be anonymized. Algos already exist for detecting potential bot activity, as it’s pretty easy to detect PVE content bots. Every pilot’s ANONYMOUS metrics over the week get provided out via “the next Project Discovery” in graph form. 1. ~~Hours played per day~~ Hour-by-hour chart, 1 when they’re logged on, 0 when they’re logged off 2. Isk earned per hour/tick 3. Rats killed per hour/tick 4. ~~The times that players non-aligned (different corp/alliance) entered system (to correlate with declines in 2 and 3)~~ Edit: This doesn’t really mean much because nobody rats with neuts in local. It’s certainly easy for a bot to artificially affect those numbers (warping to sites less often, staying logged out for longer, etc) but it would definitely be a good start. When a player sees metrics that would indicate a potential botter, they flag. When enough players flag, a GM looks it over and investigates the player. Some pre-education on what kind of metrics to look for, and we’re set. In order to prevent abuse, your reward would be based on delayed results. So if you are 100% accurate, your reward is 100% of “whatever”. If you just flag everyone, and lets say you reviewed 100 and 1 of them ends up actually being a bot, you get 1% of the reward. I’m certain market bots could be targeted using similar analytics. --- _[View the full topic](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-bots-are-they-a-bad-thing-is-ccp-complicit-in-their-use/34538)._