# EVE CLASSIC

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-classic/317425>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [June 23, 2021, 11:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-classic/317425 "2021-06-23T11:16:30Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 10\
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**Author:** ![Mr\_Epeen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_epeen/32/373308_2.png) [@Mr\_Epeen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Epeen)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2021, 8:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-classic/317425/184 "2021-10-30T20:46:19Z")

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> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#):
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> sophistry

You’re using it wrong. But I’m impressed that some doof that starts every second sentence with “i mean” along with no understanding of syntax and grammar even knew the word existed.

Mr Epeen 🕶

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**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2021, 8:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-classic/317425/185 "2021-10-30T20:57:03Z")

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> [@Mr\_Epeen](#):
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> You’re using it wrong. But I’m impressed that some doof that starts every second sentence with “i mean” along with no understanding of syntax and grammar even knew the word existed.

Care to elaborate on that?

I mean you never do right?

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2021, 10:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-classic/317425/186 "2021-10-30T22:02:56Z")

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> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#):
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> How am I trolling? I notice you didn’t answer any of my questions. I notice all you’ve done is dodge.

> [@Qia\_Kare](#):
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> You’re deliberately being obtuse and refusing to offer any clarity.

Just stop trying. Many have tried before you, and the result has been the same every time. You’re not going to get blood from a stone. Like I said, you _can’t_ argue against lobbyism. When someone’s goal is to get something instead of establishing facts, you’re not going to have a good-faith argument with them. Their sole intent is to cause as much damage to you by whatever means necessary in order to further their agenda.

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**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2021, 10:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-classic/317425/187 "2021-10-30T22:18:18Z")

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> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#):
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> Just stop trying. Many have tried before you, and the result has been the same every time. You’re not going to get blood from a stone. Like I said, you _can’t_ argue against lobbyism. When someone’s goal is to get something instead of establishing facts, you’re not going to have a good-faith argument with them. Their sole intent is to cause as much damage to you by whatever means necessary in order to further their agenda.

Oh I know 😃 I just like making him dance. He can’t really hurt me. He just disappointed me LOL.

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**Author:** ![Qia\_Kare](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/qia_kare/32/279281_2.png) [@Qia\_Kare](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Qia_Kare)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2021, 10:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-classic/317425/188 "2021-10-30T22:22:07Z")

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While he signed off with allegations of how I was asking a question in bad faith, he did answer my question to my satisfaction, so I’ll give him credit for that much.

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2021, 10:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-classic/317425/189 "2021-10-30T22:30:37Z")

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You didn’t get an honest, good-faith answer though. It was a “how to lie with statistics” response meant to confuse you with a technicality. Gankers don’t use Tornadoes to gank miners due to the economics involved, but he made it _seem_ like they did without going into the details of the argument that would prove him wrong. That is a classic example of arguing in bad faith.

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**Author:** ![Avaelica\_Kuershin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/avaelica_kuershin/32/478139_2.png) [@Avaelica\_Kuershin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Avaelica_Kuershin)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2021, 12:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-classic/317425/190 "2021-10-31T00:13:33Z")

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> [@Qia\_Kare](#):
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> It’s like people sit around convincing themselves they are completely powerless, and in so doing actually become impotent by belief alone.

That’s how it looks to me but even when I started I was told “scary stories” by people in the starter corp. I sometimes wonder how many current players are too scared to really explore the game.

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2021, 12:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-classic/317425/191 "2021-10-31T00:33:06Z")

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> [@Avaelica\_Kuershin](#):
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> I sometimes wonder how many current players are too scared to really explore the game.

That in itself is the main issue. What kind of people get a **game** and are then too afraid to play it? It’s like buying a video camera and then not using it because “well what if I don’t like the picture I take?” It’s a game, not real life, and you can’t _actually_ die by playing it. What is wrong with these people on an emotional level that they would behave like that? They should be going to therapy to address their issues, instead of wasting time complaining on the forums.

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**Author:** ![ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_dorrim_barstorlode/32/361083_2.png) [@ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Dorrim_Barstorlode)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2021, 12:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-classic/317425/192 "2021-10-31T00:36:22Z")

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**Author:** ![ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_dorrim_barstorlode/32/361083_2.png) [@ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Dorrim_Barstorlode)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2021, 12:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-classic/317425/193 "2021-10-31T00:36:54Z")

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As this thread is going the same way every other thread has gone when ganking is mentioned, I’m going to close it now. Thank you.

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