# Eve Concurrent Average Online under 20k now :( **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [August 22, 2019, 10:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-concurrent-average-online-under-20k-now/185056 "2019-08-22T22:43:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 19
**Author:** ![General\_MoneyBags](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/general_moneybags/32/159407_2.png) [@General\_MoneyBags](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/General_MoneyBags)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2019, 9:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-concurrent-average-online-under-20k-now/185056/424 "2019-09-08T09:42:38Z")
Anyone who made the game lively is gone. Only bots, miners and jerks? It’s past resurrection. Feelings anyone? 50k+ once at hight times, CCP messed with a working formula “balancing” it far too many times plus killed the entertainment. BRING BACK CAN FLIPPING and neutral logi…it worked. The Retribution patch was purely against the playerbase? ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2019, 11:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-concurrent-average-online-under-20k-now/185056/425 "2019-09-08T11:21:05Z")
> [@General\_MoneyBags](#): > > BRING BACK CAN FLIPPING and neutral logi…it worked. no, it led where we are now. ---
**Author:** ![MorliDots22](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/morlidots22/32/159489_2.png) [@MorliDots22](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MorliDots22)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2019, 1:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-concurrent-average-online-under-20k-now/185056/426 "2019-09-08T13:06:33Z")
No content in this game besides PvP. Outdated Skill system. In solid mmos you buy the game/addon one time and get a max insta lvl boost to at least one avatar. Any game on the market offers today better game experience for less cost. Easy fix - offer instance content for 5 / 10 / N+ players with NO LAGGING. Insurance should cover 80-90% of ship and gear loss so stuff like ganking and disconnect wont hurt. Or separate PvP from PVE totally. Anomalies would be ideal for it. Also by finishing it every member of the squad should get same LP and ISK reward and N+ number of drops. Just look what WOW and Guild Wars 2 do right - players growing , new real content expansion, great lore etc. ---
**Author:** ![Jedi\_Nite](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jedi_nite/32/263702_2.png) [@Jedi\_Nite](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jedi_Nite)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2019, 2:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-concurrent-average-online-under-20k-now/185056/427 "2019-09-08T14:20:04Z")
I can concur that there are a lot less on now, especially in Null sec space. I’m sorry but these idiots who continually say that the blackout is good, must be “whales” who have unlimited bank accounts cause unless you have that you die a lot in blackout and that gets expensive and people get hacked off from continually getting dead. I understand why CCP went after bots cause they are cheating, but killing the game to get rid of people they know about but haven’t acted before is stupid. Get local back in Null and get the bots another way ---
**Author:** ![Terechkovah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/terechkovah/32/175350_2.png) [@Terechkovah](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Terechkovah)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2019, 2:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-concurrent-average-online-under-20k-now/185056/428 "2019-09-08T14:25:32Z")
need your answer Mark 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Mark\_Marconi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mark_marconi/32/150029_2.png) [@Mark\_Marconi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mark_Marconi)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2019, 2:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-concurrent-average-online-under-20k-now/185056/429 "2019-09-08T14:26:02Z")
Blackout is not about Bots. It is about risk vs reward and CCP know how much null would cry if someone took their lolly away, so they made it a more riskier lolly. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2019, 2:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-concurrent-average-online-under-20k-now/185056/430 "2019-09-08T14:34:59Z")
Blackout is about clearing out anyone who isnt in High being new and selling PLEX or in Null being Bloc and buying it. All other priorities rescinded. ---
**Author:** ![Punctator](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/punctator/32/357072_2.png) [@Punctator](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Punctator)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2019, 3:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-concurrent-average-online-under-20k-now/185056/431 "2019-09-08T15:01:49Z")
Sooner they got a lawsuit for allowing money laundering in the game and that’s all. Blackout will not be profitable - there are so many plexes in the system that there is no one to use them and the number of people playing drastically decreases. we see it in plex price dropping as hell and it is probably begining. ---
**Author:** ![General\_MoneyBags](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/general_moneybags/32/159407_2.png) [@General\_MoneyBags](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/General_MoneyBags)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2019, 3:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-concurrent-average-online-under-20k-now/185056/433 "2019-09-08T15:18:21Z")
No, it was taken away and the population dropped like a rock. Get out a graph of 2012 was it ? You are a noob of that era obviously. 50-60k on weekends equals you’re WRONG! Once away for a few years you wonder why you held on? ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2019, 3:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-concurrent-average-online-under-20k-now/185056/434 "2019-09-08T15:44:49Z")
yeah, the ONLY thing that happened in 2012 is that. God… please save us of the over-simplifiers who wants that a complex situation SHOULD be related only to ONE event … ---
**Author:** ![General\_MoneyBags](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/general_moneybags/32/159407_2.png) [@General\_MoneyBags](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/General_MoneyBags)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2019, 3:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-concurrent-average-online-under-20k-now/185056/435 "2019-09-08T15:46:37Z")
It was the beginning of the dominoes falling. Deal with reality, this game is notwhat it was. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2019, 3:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-concurrent-average-online-under-20k-now/185056/436 "2019-09-08T15:48:03Z")
Your over-simplified opinion on a complex problem is not _reality_ . ---
**Author:** ![General\_MoneyBags](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/general_moneybags/32/159407_2.png) [@General\_MoneyBags](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/General_MoneyBags)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2019, 3:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-concurrent-average-online-under-20k-now/185056/437 "2019-09-08T15:49:07Z")
Over simplification of a company who tried VR and failed and thought this was a auto-meal ticket. They were wrong and gutted their company…owned by Koreans now? LOL ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2019, 3:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-concurrent-average-online-under-20k-now/185056/438 "2019-09-08T15:49:36Z")
indeed, you have a huge issue with reality. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2019, 3:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-concurrent-average-online-under-20k-now/185056/440 "2019-09-08T15:50:55Z")
calling me angry is definitely not _reality_. Try again. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2019, 4:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-concurrent-average-online-under-20k-now/185056/442 "2019-09-08T16:09:57Z")
You are not informing me. You are literally making false claims of someone you know nothing of. You therefore are angry by your own definition. Not that I care about it. ---
**Author:** ![General\_MoneyBags](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/general_moneybags/32/159407_2.png) [@General\_MoneyBags](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/General_MoneyBags)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2019, 4:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-concurrent-average-online-under-20k-now/185056/443 "2019-09-08T16:10:51Z")
You talk in circles like an angry person/child…time to mute your ramblings… ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2019, 4:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-concurrent-average-online-under-20k-now/185056/444 "2019-09-08T16:11:29Z")
funny, according to yourself you are an angry child. ---
**Author:** ![General\_MoneyBags](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/general_moneybags/32/159407_2.png) [@General\_MoneyBags](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/General_MoneyBags)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2019, 4:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-concurrent-average-online-under-20k-now/185056/446 "2019-09-08T16:18:47Z")
I’ve won eve already. You can have it ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2019, 4:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-concurrent-average-online-under-20k-now/185056/447 "2019-09-08T16:18:55Z")
> [@Gowa\_Hyasyoda](#): > > Probably be more players online if they weren’t here sh!t posting one another all the time. > > 🤣 lol, that’s it. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-concurrent-average-online-under-20k-now/185056.md?page=18) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-concurrent-average-online-under-20k-now/185056.md?page=20)