# Eve Concurrent Average Online under 20k now :( **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [August 22, 2019, 10:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-concurrent-average-online-under-20k-now/185056 "2019-08-22T22:43:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 43
**Author:** ![Kezrai\_Charzai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kezrai_charzai/32/394578_2.png) [@Kezrai\_Charzai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kezrai_Charzai)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2019, 5:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-concurrent-average-online-under-20k-now/185056/1032 "2019-10-08T17:24:05Z")
“ **Peak** ” Concurrent (a number that only exists for a few minutes) vs. “Concurrent **Average** ” (the average throughout the time period), which is the thread topic. Also, EVE summer slumps are typically June/July/August and recover in September, where they exist at all (the seasonal changes vary quite a bit due to other factors). Reading comprehension. It’s a thing. You should try some! ---
**Author:** ![Xuixien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuixien/32/416896_2.png) [@Xuixien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuixien)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2019, 6:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-concurrent-average-online-under-20k-now/185056/1033 "2019-10-08T18:49:20Z")
That’s nice, dear. Historically, EVE summer slumps start around May and end around November. There is variation, for example sometimes it starts sooner, other times ends starts later, some years Jan-Jan is one entire slump, but that doesn’t matter: we are not experiencing anything atypical this year. 2016 had a similar slump and recovered in November (even after controlling for Alphas). There also weren’t 10’s of thousands of accounts banned for EULA violations. You just need to think a little deeper, hun. ---
**Author:** ![Boom\_Boom\_Longtime](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/boom_boom_longtime/32/503592_2.png) [@Boom\_Boom\_Longtime](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Boom_Boom_Longtime)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2019, 10:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-concurrent-average-online-under-20k-now/185056/1034 "2019-10-08T22:27:21Z")
@Solecist_Project Apologies, I wasn’t ignoring your awesome post - it was awesome 😊 I had scheduled holiday today so had a few glasses of wine last night. I actually try avoiding posting in this thread as it is ultimately indicative of how I feel bitter at the nose dive the game has taken and I genuinely miss the good old days which I see no return to now. \*Tickles under the chin. ---
**Author:** ![Solecist\_Project](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solecist_project/32/479741_2.png) [@Solecist\_Project](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solecist_Project)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2019, 10:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-concurrent-average-online-under-20k-now/185056/1035 "2019-10-08T22:31:19Z")
\*_snickers\*_ I can tell there is big change coming. You should not give up yet. They’re planning on putting all the new players into a single system, which makes them much easier to approach. There’s a good chance people will “gold rush” them, because they’re so easily accessible. Also there’s this: [https://wiki.bravecollective.com/public/corps/brave-empire/start](https://wiki.bravecollective.com/public/corps/brave-empire/start) And where there’s one, there’s more to follow. Content. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![BOINGBOINGBOINGBOING\_BOINGOBBLEOI](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/boingboingboingboing_boingobbleoi/32/203433_2.png) [@BOINGBOINGBOINGBOING\_BOINGOBBLEOI](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/BOINGBOINGBOINGBOING_BOINGOBBLEOI)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2019, 10:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-concurrent-average-online-under-20k-now/185056/1036 "2019-10-08T22:34:37Z")
> [@Solecist\_Project](#): > > They’re planning on putting all the new players into a single system, which makes them much easier to approach. I really hope you are not making this up. Absolutely hilarious. ---
**Author:** ![Solecist\_Project](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solecist_project/32/479741_2.png) [@Solecist\_Project](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solecist_Project)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2019, 10:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-concurrent-average-online-under-20k-now/185056/1037 "2019-10-08T22:35:54Z")
I don’t remember if it was in an interview or from the minutes themselves. Probably an interview. I’ll probably find it eventually. It’s a smart thing to do when your amount of new players starts decreasing. It’s actually something they should have done ages ago already. I’m looking forward to it. It really is a good idea. ---
**Author:** ![Boom\_Boom\_Longtime](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/boom_boom_longtime/32/503592_2.png) [@Boom\_Boom\_Longtime](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Boom_Boom_Longtime)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2019, 10:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-concurrent-average-online-under-20k-now/185056/1038 "2019-10-08T22:42:34Z")
Ideas aside - first time in 10 years I’ve not played Eve and all I seem to currently get when I’m browsing the web casually is plex adverts and how I can enhance my gameplay - honestly, CCP Hilmar who doesn’t care as cash in the bank, and Pearl Abyss get all they deserve at this point - genuinely sad we got to this point, but it is what it is. \*Tickles Solecist again under the chin and pines for days long now past. ---
**Author:** ![Solecist\_Project](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solecist_project/32/479741_2.png) [@Solecist\_Project](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solecist_Project)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2019, 11:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-concurrent-average-online-under-20k-now/185056/1039 "2019-10-08T23:02:29Z")
> [@Boom\_Boom\_Longtime](#): > > \*Tickles Solecist again under the chin and pines for days long now past. I haven’t done this in years! Did you really do this? That tickles! 😃 \*_pokes your nose\*_ beep. \*_snickers\*_ xD Anyhow … \*_rubs her chin\*_ … what was I … oh … yes … I need to pee! … uuuhhhh … Hey, imagine us in the rookie system. 🙂 People nowadays don’t know quality content if it ganked them in the face after robbing them stupid! To me it looks like Hilmar actually wants to get rid of farmers again and is now looking for a slow way of doing it. We’ll only really know when they announce or release the next batch of big changes, but only then we can be sure. There’s just no way this whole thing turns into a better direction over the course of a patch. This needs time. If they really want to save this game, they have to shift the population again. A shift away from that carebear imbalance back to people who actually make the game … well … the game. I just really can’t tell which way they’re going to shift. It definitely looks like they’re going to shift the population again and I actually doubt it’s going to be towards even more farmers, because catering to farmers is what brought us into this mess. Still wasn’t peeing. \*_snickers\*_ \*_points at chin\*_ here please. 😊 ---
**Author:** ![Rekindle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rekindle/32/382332_2.png) [@Rekindle](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rekindle)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2019, 11:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-concurrent-average-online-under-20k-now/185056/1040 "2019-10-08T23:55:28Z")
> [@Xuixien](#): > > Was 30k the other day. Looks like the summer slump is (predictably) ending. One day in countless it almost hit 30k …let the masses rejoice…the game is finally connecting to the distraught bitter vet again. ---
**Author:** ![Ritek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ritek/32/416290_2.png) [@Ritek](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ritek)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2019, 12:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-concurrent-average-online-under-20k-now/185056/1041 "2019-10-09T00:00:34Z")
I think the new offer / publish in launcher of the 1000000 sp pack (sp from thin air) is a hint of the desesperation of CCP now. And the skill spree without expiration for now, is another. ---
**Author:** ![Nevyn\_Auscent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevyn_auscent/32/255124_2.png) [@Nevyn\_Auscent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nevyn_Auscent)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2019, 12:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-concurrent-average-online-under-20k-now/185056/1042 "2019-10-09T00:49:42Z")
I can find 18k days 3 years ago. Yes numbers are down, but they are not down as dramatically as people keep trying to say. the long term EVE offline graphs drop data points which makes it look worse than it really is. ---
**Author:** ![Marcelo\_II](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/marcelo_ii/32/384884_2.png) [@Marcelo\_II](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Marcelo_II)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2019, 5:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-concurrent-average-online-under-20k-now/185056/1043 "2019-10-09T05:24:57Z")
I think, average concurrent players dropped because in rencent months CCP banned lots of botters plus blackout plus other things. But, yeah, activity slowdown a little. Games like EVE Online are Unique! CCP could use this factor in your favor! Strangely, EVE Online grown up in social media, web site content, videos but not in players. The only thing I blame CCP is The Alliance Tournament that won’t happen this year! There should be three such tournaments every year! I have an idea to built PVP Arenas in highsec near main trade hubs! 1x1, 2x2 fights generated and managed by software! Players that wishes to join only have to pay for the “pre” fitted ship to choose for! Making it more fair to compete and with rankings! A more complete idea of this Arena Coliseum PVP should be discussed! Arena PVP exists in Abyssal space, but it isnt always fair and ppl arent watching! 🙂 Ppl can watch it and make bets! ---
**Author:** ![Nevyn\_Auscent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevyn_auscent/32/255124_2.png) [@Nevyn\_Auscent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nevyn_Auscent)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2019, 5:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-concurrent-average-online-under-20k-now/185056/1044 "2019-10-09T05:53:50Z")
1. Betting is illegal. CCP aren’t a casino. 2. Run the PVP arenas yourself, provide pre fitted ships at a fee, organise times and rankings. ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2019, 7:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-concurrent-average-online-under-20k-now/185056/1045 "2019-10-09T07:23:21Z")
> [@Nevyn\_Auscent](#): > > Betting is illegal. CCP aren’t a casino. Looks like metaplasmids are gambling. Fairly straightforward, you take items with some value (you bet some money on having good luck), roll the effects, then its worth less or more. You can of course argue that its not using real money, but contrargument is its not about money but the effect gambling have on your brain. CCP is eager to take your money even if it involves exploiting addicts gambling habits. In relation: “CCP and you”, you are only a customer they want to exploit, its that relation. They are no different in that aspect from EA. ---
**Author:** ![Ravid\_Bheskagor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ravid_bheskagor/32/472687_2.png) [@Ravid\_Bheskagor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ravid_Bheskagor)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2019, 9:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-concurrent-average-online-under-20k-now/185056/1046 "2019-10-09T09:29:03Z")
CCP banned lots of accounts. ---
**Author:** ![Nevyn\_Auscent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevyn_auscent/32/255124_2.png) [@Nevyn\_Auscent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nevyn_Auscent)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2019, 11:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-concurrent-average-online-under-20k-now/185056/1048 "2019-10-09T11:56:47Z")
Go read legal definitions of gambling. Mutaplasmid don’t count. That’s not to say I like them, I dislike them as rng is a cheap way to increase grind dramatically, and they hit the same brain centres as gambling does. But legally they aren’t going to run foul of gambling laws. ---
**Author:** ![Theron\_Larkis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/theron_larkis/32/170573_2.png) [@Theron\_Larkis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Theron_Larkis)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2019, 12:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-concurrent-average-online-under-20k-now/185056/1049 "2019-10-09T12:01:54Z")
If you choose to do boring things, the game will be boring. Who knew. ---
**Author:** ![Mortlake](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mortlake/32/510240_2.png) [@Mortlake](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mortlake)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2019, 12:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-concurrent-average-online-under-20k-now/185056/1050 "2019-10-09T12:20:13Z")
> [@Ravid\_Bheskagor](#): > > CCP banded lots of accounts. With space themed duct tape. ---
**Author:** ![Mortlake](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mortlake/32/510240_2.png) [@Mortlake](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mortlake)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2019, 12:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-concurrent-average-online-under-20k-now/185056/1051 "2019-10-09T12:21:28Z")
> [@Theron\_Larkis](#): > > If you choose to do boring things, the game will be boring. Who knew. An entitled and coddled populace on individual hamster wheels generating piles of currency they will never use. What could go wrong? ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2019, 2:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-concurrent-average-online-under-20k-now/185056/1052 "2019-10-09T14:52:02Z")
Oh just give it up already. She is too old and dry. No energy left. Her ass probably isn’t even half of what it used to be. She would struggle with scamming a five year old. Remember when people talked about her? When she was the hottest chick in all of Amarr? Nowadays she is probably selling rugs to rookies at a permanent 50% “sale” to feel like she still got it. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-concurrent-average-online-under-20k-now/185056.md?page=42) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-concurrent-average-online-under-20k-now/185056.md?page=44)