# Eve Concurrent Average Online under 20k now :( **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [August 22, 2019, 10:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-concurrent-average-online-under-20k-now/185056 "2019-08-22T22:43:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2019, 7:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-concurrent-average-online-under-20k-now/185056/105 "2019-08-28T07:40:46Z")
How do you figure that? Games come and go. ---
**Author:** ![Theron\_Larkis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/theron_larkis/32/170573_2.png) [@Theron\_Larkis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Theron_Larkis)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2019, 7:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-concurrent-average-online-under-20k-now/185056/106 "2019-08-28T07:43:34Z")
If you quit because of the null blackout then null never was for you. I’ve been saying it for years: null carebears are the exact same as high sec carebears. It’s of course a massive kick in the ego: not too long ago you could lie to yourself and others about how awesome you are for living in null and how terrible the highseccers are. And now you realize… you’re one of them. Grow a pair, enjoy high/low sec or quit. Frankly I don’t care whichever you choose but stop making clown posts using the idiotic logic of a 5 year old. ---
**Author:** ![Salty\_NCalt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salty_ncalt/32/302974_2.png) [@Salty\_NCalt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salty_NCalt)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2019, 10:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-concurrent-average-online-under-20k-now/185056/107 "2019-08-28T10:50:35Z")
> [@Theron\_Larkis](#): > > If you quit because of the null blackout then null never was for you. If you quit because of the null blackout then ~~null~~ WH never was for you. Fixed that for you ---
**Author:** ![Terechkovah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/terechkovah/32/175350_2.png) [@Terechkovah](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Terechkovah)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2019, 11:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-concurrent-average-online-under-20k-now/185056/108 "2019-08-28T11:04:08Z")
Well , when you fight hard for a sov, you should be able to exploit this area. It’s not the case when you have no counter against cloacky hunters … I live in providence , and at the start of the blackout the region has been laminated by cloaky hunters. Im ok with the fact that things should change , but at this point it’snt a change of gameplay , it’s a destruction. And stop with your idea to move to high sec or lowsec, our life has been in Nullsec for years , hours and hours of playtime to build something. And just look now , only after 2 month , the major part of the null sec is total empty. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2019, 11:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-concurrent-average-online-under-20k-now/185056/109 "2019-08-28T11:16:25Z")
> [@Terechkovah](#): > > when you fight hard for a sov Really, do tell > [@Terechkovah](#): > > I live in providence Oh > [@Terechkovah](#): > > our life has been in Nullsec for years So not really fighting hard then. The more this is said the more like desk bound Managers complaining how hard they have it it sounds. ---
**Author:** ![Fermin\_Mascagranzas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fermin_mascagranzas/32/291148_2.png) [@Fermin\_Mascagranzas](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Fermin_Mascagranzas)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2019, 11:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-concurrent-average-online-under-20k-now/185056/110 "2019-08-28T11:21:15Z")
16k now by the way. [https://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility](https://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility) But hey all of that blackout thing has been clearly the best innovation since sliced bread, and everything is fine. ---
**Author:** ![Terechkovah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/terechkovah/32/175350_2.png) [@Terechkovah](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Terechkovah)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2019, 11:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-concurrent-average-online-under-20k-now/185056/111 "2019-08-28T11:24:34Z")
Im still looking at any interest of your reply… cant find . ---
**Author:** ![Daoden](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daoden/32/271841_2.png) [@Daoden](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daoden)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2019, 11:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-concurrent-average-online-under-20k-now/185056/112 "2019-08-28T11:26:02Z")
You want to exploit your null systems. But you dont want to have to defend them… ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2019, 11:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-concurrent-average-online-under-20k-now/185056/113 "2019-08-28T11:26:06Z")
Of course you dont. Why would you admit the truth, it doesnt serve your narrative. ---
**Author:** ![Terechkovah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/terechkovah/32/175350_2.png) [@Terechkovah](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Terechkovah)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2019, 11:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-concurrent-average-online-under-20k-now/185056/114 "2019-08-28T11:27:42Z")
We defend it , atleast we do what we can . ---
**Author:** ![Terechkovah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/terechkovah/32/175350_2.png) [@Terechkovah](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Terechkovah)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2019, 11:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-concurrent-average-online-under-20k-now/185056/115 "2019-08-28T11:30:36Z")
Log on your main , im curious to know where is your home sytem. ---
**Author:** ![Theron\_Larkis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/theron_larkis/32/170573_2.png) [@Theron\_Larkis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Theron_Larkis)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2019, 11:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-concurrent-average-online-under-20k-now/185056/116 "2019-08-28T11:32:24Z")
Prov is null with training wheels, for multiple reasons. Pretending it’s somehow an achievement to live there is akin to lieing. Besides, the people with the initiative and knowledge that keep it running aren’t the ones who are whining. It’s the no-no’s, the lazy and the terrible, the clowns. THOSE do the whining. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2019, 11:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-concurrent-average-online-under-20k-now/185056/117 "2019-08-28T11:33:53Z")
This is my main. Why do you ask? ---
**Author:** ![Terechkovah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/terechkovah/32/175350_2.png) [@Terechkovah](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Terechkovah)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2019, 11:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-concurrent-average-online-under-20k-now/185056/118 "2019-08-28T11:37:19Z")
a smiley is always the good answer . 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2019, 11:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-concurrent-average-online-under-20k-now/185056/119 "2019-08-28T11:47:03Z")
> [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#): > > You do know what the Butterfly Effect is, right? Seems you don’t. Buttterfly effect is about the sensitivity to initial values, and the lack of predictability that is limited from that sensitivity and the lack of precision we have on those initial value. I repeat : LACK OF PREDICTABILITY That means you can’t use “butterfly effect” and “in order to” in the same sentence. > **[Chaos theory](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos_theory)** > > Chaos theory is a branch of mathematics and an interdisciplinary area of scientific study. It focuses on underlying patterns and deterministic laws of dynamical systems that are highly sensitive to initial conditions. These were once thought to have completely random states of disorder and irregularities. The theory states that within the apparent randomness of chaotic complex systems, there are underlying patterns, interconnection, constant feedback loops, repetition, self-similarity, fractal Sm... > [@Daichi\_Yamato](#): > > Plex trading is not going up. In fact it looks like its going down. That’s the effect of deflation : stop in investment and trading. Why buy something today when tomorrow it will cost less ? > [@Daichi\_Yamato](#): > > Something I’ve come to realise is that some null sec players truly feel that the game revolves around them and their playstyle. that’s a fish in its tank. > [@Kezrai\_Charzai](#): > > The numbers of Alpha FW bots and (potentially) market bots wouldn’t be happening unless they could run many bots on few computers. You don’t even need to run a bot on YOUR computer. > [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#): > > Thought the server is what restricts running multiple alpha accounts on a single computer. does not. Virtual machines allow a complete separation of the process, and if you are behind a router all the server sees is IP:PORT(port forwarding) so this may as well be two computers behind the same router. > [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#): > > Do you know what happens when all the predators are gone? In reality, new predators emerge. Don’t let that article fool you. It’s mixing two things : the human notion of well being for a park (which makes no sense) and the notion of predators. More preys means more evolution of their parasites, which means also more competition and so the parasites that use the prey faster, to reproduce faster, to spread faster and starve the others, become prominent. That’s how very deadly diseases appear, that could not be viable in a scarce-prey environment. The issue with that is that the extreme evolution of diseases may lead to human contagion (cross-species mutation). There is no problem for the ecosystem. There is a problem for humanity 🙂 [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/1/b/8/1b8bf77bb8651fe203e94e5651908e8499aa5489.jpeg "Jeff Goldblum Life Finds a Way Steven Spielberg Movie HD Jurassic Park Movie CLIP") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiVVzxoPTtg) But I agree that an environment with a little of danger is better, even for prey, than one without danger (more selection). > [@Terechkovah](#): > > Log on your main , im curious to know where is your home sytem. > [@Terechkovah](#): > > Im still looking at any interest of your reply… cant find . indeed. ---
**Author:** ![Daoden](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daoden/32/271841_2.png) [@Daoden](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daoden)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2019, 12:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-concurrent-average-online-under-20k-now/185056/120 "2019-08-28T12:05:49Z")
All this talk of predator and prey means nothing. Its a game, people will quit if they dont enjoy it. Saying if all the “prey” quits is bull because super umbrella made said prey hard to go after. Which reduced the amount of prey more then blackout did. ---
**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2019, 12:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-concurrent-average-online-under-20k-now/185056/121 "2019-08-28T12:09:25Z")
> [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#): > > My average ISK per hr income has been drastically nerfed over the years and is now barely 1/3rd of what it use to be. What does your “income” consist of? I don’t think NPC bounties where nerfed, but could be wrong. Is it because of loot/salvage prices? ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2019, 12:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-concurrent-average-online-under-20k-now/185056/122 "2019-08-28T12:34:56Z")
nor were the OPE nor the agents rewards. ---
**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2019, 12:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-concurrent-average-online-under-20k-now/185056/123 "2019-08-28T12:43:19Z")
> [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > That’s the effect of deflation : stop in investment and trading. Why buy something today when tomorrow it will cost less ? But even the former plex hoarders don’t seem to be in a rush to sell their plex to avoid further loss. And there certainly is no increase in people buying plex from ccp and selling it on the market. What it looks like is people just aren’t buying more plex. My guess is because the null ratters and bots that used to buy them to plex their accounts can’t anymore. So it’s the opposite of what De Michael thought. ---
**Author:** ![Theron\_Larkis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/theron_larkis/32/170573_2.png) [@Theron\_Larkis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Theron_Larkis)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2019, 12:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-concurrent-average-online-under-20k-now/185056/124 "2019-08-28T12:59:09Z")
> [@Daichi\_Yamato](#): > > So it’s the opposite of what De Michael thought. Not surprised™ [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-concurrent-average-online-under-20k-now/185056.md?page=5) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-concurrent-average-online-under-20k-now/185056.md?page=7)