# EVE Gate Shutdown – Wednesday September 27th **URL:** \ **Category:** Announcements\ **Created:** [September 25, 2017, 11:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-gate-shutdown-wednesday-september-27th/27282 "2017-09-25T11:58:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2017, 9:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-gate-shutdown-wednesday-september-27th/27282/243 "2017-09-27T09:25:56Z")
> [@Rivr\_Luzade](#): > > You would make for an amazing customer support employee or alternatively an amazing CCP sales rep and customer support guy: “I don’t have the problem therefore it does not exist I just used Discord fine on an old HTC Windows phone from 2012, with 480x800 resolution and 4" screen. I’m not here to be your customer support. If you can’t even bother helping yourself, why should anyone else help you? ---
**Author:** ![Rivr\_Luzade](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rivr_luzade/32/311061_2.png) [@Rivr\_Luzade](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rivr_Luzade)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2017, 9:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-gate-shutdown-wednesday-september-27th/27282/244 "2017-09-27T09:26:44Z")
Screenshot please. ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2017, 9:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-gate-shutdown-wednesday-september-27th/27282/245 "2017-09-27T09:28:31Z")
> [@Rivr\_Luzade](#): > > Screenshot please. Not my phone personally, so you either believe what I wrote, or you don’t. It’s an old work testing phone for development and not for me to use really for this sort of thing. I only did it because I wanted to check that I wasn’t somehow wrong. Either way doesn’t change the fact that’s it perfectly possible on even a 4" windows phone. ---
**Author:** ![Rivr\_Luzade](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rivr_luzade/32/311061_2.png) [@Rivr\_Luzade](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rivr_Luzade)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2017, 9:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-gate-shutdown-wednesday-september-27th/27282/246 "2017-09-27T09:30:33Z")
It’s not really about if I believe you. I just would like to see a screenshot of the user interface so that I may be able to figure out how I can make the buttons to hide the user list appear on my phone as well. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Markus\_Jameson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/markus_jameson/32/12581_2.png) [@Markus\_Jameson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Markus_Jameson)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2017, 9:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-gate-shutdown-wednesday-september-27th/27282/247 "2017-09-27T09:41:19Z")
> [@Scipio\_Artelius](#): > > It seems that there is no end of ways members of communities (Corps/Alliance and NPSI communities) have to make contact with each other, much more effeciently than via evemail. > > Is the loss of evegate really that significant, even if you can’t use EVE Portal? You seem to willfully ignore the fact everyone (that I’ve seen anyway) who’s already commented from the perspective of the corporation has done so from the specific perspective of a recruiter. Other than the larger or very best organised groups out there most initial contact is, always has been & probably always will be by in-game mail, especially for new corps. So yes it’s loss is significant for them & will probably be most significant for smaller more casual corps as well as any new corps just starting out. So 🤨 Which of the big corps are you from? And how long have you worked in meta-game, propaganda & CCP manipulation departments? 😜 ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2017, 9:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-gate-shutdown-wednesday-september-27th/27282/248 "2017-09-27T09:54:37Z")
> [@Markus\_Jameson](#): > > You seem to willfully ignore the fact everyone (that I’ve seen anyway) who’s already commented from the perspective of the corporation has done so from the specific perspective of a recruiter. Rubbish. I’m a recruiter too. If you want to check that, feel free to apply on an alpha and see who responds to your application. Evemail still works in game. It still works on EVE Portal (since the app has been updated) and it still works through the third party options listed in this thread. On top of that, when someone applies to Corp, you dont receive an evemail. If you are a recruiter, you receive a notification in game and can see the application through the corp interface. So if you are in game to see the application, then you can use evemail in game. Alternatively, many Corps/Alliances use public channels to answer questions, etc., which also require being in game and then there is access to in game evemail. Of course, many also use application processes on their own third party platforms, including submitting api keys, etc. They are then followed up with API checks out of game, before an invite is sent. An invite can only be sent from in game, which again also provides access to evemail. So I’ll reverse that and call BS on your entire post. This will have no significant impact on any recruiter that does something as simple as login to the game. So if you want the go calling me a liar, then at least know what you are talking about first. ---
**Author:** ![Markus\_Jameson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/markus_jameson/32/12581_2.png) [@Markus\_Jameson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Markus_Jameson)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2017, 9:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-gate-shutdown-wednesday-september-27th/27282/249 "2017-09-27T09:59:31Z")
> [@Scipio\_Artelius](#): > > I’m a recruiter too. If you want to check that Ah, so what your saying then is > I have these things so I’m happy to see any competition who hasn’t got them effected by this, it will choke the competition a little bit more & make my life easyer Would that be about it? 😄 EDIT: You caught me mid-edit shortly (I’m slow so for me immediately) after posting while my post was still in the knee jerk reaction phase (my final edits tend to be _politer_), you might want to check yours still relates to my finale edit 🙂 I am sorry if my posting technique (post 1st think as you post & edit in the page) has left your response looking wrong in any way 😳 my bad if it has. ---
**Author:** ![Snitch\_Ashor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/snitch_ashor/32/470084_2.png) [@Snitch\_Ashor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Snitch_Ashor)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2017, 10:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-gate-shutdown-wednesday-september-27th/27282/250 "2017-09-27T10:00:39Z")
> [@Markus\_Jameson](#): > > > [@Snitch\_Ashor](#): > > > > I do know trust is an issue, especially for the paranoid beings we tend to be in eve. > > And yet you still go right ahead & name your alt **Snitch** anyway 😲 then use it for this 🤨 trying a little reverse psychology perhaps 😄 Damnit, should have thought of this… instead I named my main like that :facepalm: ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2017, 10:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-gate-shutdown-wednesday-september-27th/27282/251 "2017-09-27T10:02:59Z")
> [@Markus\_Jameson](#): > > Ah, so what your saying then is No, what I’m saying is you calling me a liar on the basis of recruiters being hurt by this is BS. Just logging into game completely solves the issue of no evegate and most of the ways to know if someone has applied to a corp are in game, where recruiters have access to evemail. So this won’t impact any recruiter that just logs into the game. The loss of evegate isa non-issue for recruitment, especially with the alternatives that exist, both in game and out of game. ---
**Author:** ![Rivr\_Luzade](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rivr_luzade/32/311061_2.png) [@Rivr\_Luzade](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rivr_Luzade)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2017, 11:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-gate-shutdown-wednesday-september-27th/27282/252 "2017-09-27T11:14:13Z")
> [@Scipio\_Artelius](#): > > Just logging into game completely solves the issue of no evegate and most of the ways to know if someone has applied to a corp are in game, where recruiters have access to evemail. And that is where you completely missunderstand the point of EVE Gate. It is not helpful for those who _can_ log into the game, it is beneficial for those who want to check and respond to mails who _cannot_ log into the game. What alternatives do you mean? How can I contact you on your discord if I don’t know your discord? How else can I contact you if I do not see you in your public or recruitment channel? How else am I letting people listed as responsible persons in a public or recruitment channel know that I would like to contact them? Recruitment aside, I am in a number of mailing lists that I want to check and respond to if there is need be and also when I am not able to log into the game. EVE Gate allows me to do all of that and more. You are way too narrow-minded with your argumentation on the uselessness of EVE Gate. ---
**Author:** ![Fuyune\_Shirio](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fuyune_shirio/32/268640_2.png) [@Fuyune\_Shirio](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Fuyune_Shirio)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2017, 11:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-gate-shutdown-wednesday-september-27th/27282/253 "2017-09-27T11:24:51Z")
Sadly the mobile app is no alternative AT ALL for the web service. ---
**Author:** ![ArmyOfMe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/armyofme/32/514222_2.png) [@ArmyOfMe](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ArmyOfMe)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2017, 1:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-gate-shutdown-wednesday-september-27th/27282/254 "2017-09-27T13:08:00Z")
> [@ISD\_Fractal](#): > > Did you see the link Steve posted? Should it really be needed for everyone else to do what CCP should have done the entire time? Make things that work? ---
**Author:** ![ArmyOfMe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/armyofme/32/514222_2.png) [@ArmyOfMe](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ArmyOfMe)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2017, 1:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-gate-shutdown-wednesday-september-27th/27282/255 "2017-09-27T13:10:28Z")
> [@Gunner\_GzR](#): > > @CCP_Falcon . How are you still allowed to interact with the customers? You have the worst attitude and tact. Heck I don’t think even a monkey could do that bad. Smart ass replys are not the best customer service. Would you belive me if I told you he was actually a lot more polite back when he was a pirate in this game… ---
**Author:** ![ArmyOfMe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/armyofme/32/514222_2.png) [@ArmyOfMe](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ArmyOfMe)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2017, 1:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-gate-shutdown-wednesday-september-27th/27282/256 "2017-09-27T13:15:08Z")
> [@CCP\_Falcon](#): > > soon you forgot the ™ And we all know what a CCP soon™ means. ---
**Author:** ![Neshani\_Otomeya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/neshani_otomeya/32/24615_2.png) [@Neshani\_Otomeya](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Neshani_Otomeya)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2017, 2:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-gate-shutdown-wednesday-september-27th/27282/257 "2017-09-27T14:00:38Z")
@CCP Falcon Please, thank the individual that identified the security issue and the individual that made the decision to act on it quickly and close the hole. With all the high profile security breaches, personally identifiable information loss, and service disruptions due to malicious software globally. I can give up not having a 1st party web client for handling mail for my internet spaceships. ---
**Author:** ![McBorsk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mcborsk/32/27837_2.png) [@McBorsk](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/McBorsk)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2017, 5:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-gate-shutdown-wednesday-september-27th/27282/258 "2017-09-27T17:02:25Z")
Wow, this sure sucks. I’ve been using gate on a daily basis for years and suddenly it’s gone. ---
**Author:** ![Mynxee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mynxee/32/270749_2.png) [@Mynxee](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mynxee)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2017, 6:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-gate-shutdown-wednesday-september-27th/27282/259 "2017-09-27T18:48:31Z")
Just to add to this, when I went to the old EVE Gate web site and clicked the link you provide to the app store, the app was displayed and I was able to download it. But a search for it got no results. In case the app devs want another piece of info to sort the problem. ---
**Author:** ![Circumstantial\_Evidence](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/circumstantial_evidence/32/399551_2.png) [@Circumstantial\_Evidence](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Circumstantial_Evidence)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2017, 8:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-gate-shutdown-wednesday-september-27th/27282/260 "2017-09-27T20:31:36Z")
Go to the site today, picture of floating dead guy in the background. Screenshotted for posterity. ---
**Author:** ![FloppieTheBanjoClown](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/floppiethebanjoclown/32/227425_2.png) [@FloppieTheBanjoClown](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/FloppieTheBanjoClown)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2017, 1:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-gate-shutdown-wednesday-september-27th/27282/261 "2017-09-28T01:34:46Z")
The app is a poor replacement, as I can’t install it on my Windows PC. The loss of functionality is sad. ---
**Author:** ![Norjia\_Blacksteel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/norjia_blacksteel/32/27944_2.png) [@Norjia\_Blacksteel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Norjia_Blacksteel)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2017, 4:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-gate-shutdown-wednesday-september-27th/27282/262 "2017-09-28T04:04:45Z")
It’s been said before, but typing on a phone is horrible. Really horrible. Like, I really hate typing on phones. Badly. Being able to answer an evemail quickly from a browser at work is a great boon. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-gate-shutdown-wednesday-september-27th/27282.md?page=12) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-gate-shutdown-wednesday-september-27th/27282.md?page=14)