# EVE is a living dead. Here's why and how to fix this **URL:** \ **Category:** Player Features & Ideas\ **Created:** [May 2, 2020, 3:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-a-living-dead-heres-why-and-how-to-fix-this/237140 "2020-05-02T15:22:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2020, 6:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-a-living-dead-heres-why-and-how-to-fix-this/237140/21 "2020-05-02T18:19:36Z")
Go over the Delve and quest for a Molok blueprint - I hear those are worth something. ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2020, 6:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-a-living-dead-heres-why-and-how-to-fix-this/237140/22 "2020-05-02T18:20:41Z")
You are the one making bold, unconfirmable claims. ---
**Author:** ![Wadiest\_Yong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wadiest_yong/32/426921_2.png) [@Wadiest\_Yong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wadiest_Yong)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2020, 6:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-a-living-dead-heres-why-and-how-to-fix-this/237140/23 "2020-05-02T18:23:09Z")
@Xeux wow there, as long as Katia is the only one with a verified and confirmed claim, my statement (not a claim, and singular, not plural) stands. Now go kill a roid or sumtin ---
**Author:** ![Forum\_Posting\_Alt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/forum_posting_alt/32/254303_2.png) [@Forum\_Posting\_Alt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Forum_Posting_Alt)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2020, 6:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-a-living-dead-heres-why-and-how-to-fix-this/237140/24 "2020-05-02T18:25:02Z")
Pretty much all horse excrement, other than the moon decay bit - that could be worked on to make something interesting. ---
**Author:** ![ISD\_Buldath](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_buldath/32/381437_2.png) [@ISD\_Buldath](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Buldath)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2020, 6:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-a-living-dead-heres-why-and-how-to-fix-this/237140/25 "2020-05-02T18:44:30Z")
This Topic has been moved to Player Features and Ideas Discussion ---
**Author:** ![Brun\_Warbear](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brun_warbear/32/380353_2.png) [@Brun\_Warbear](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brun_Warbear)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2020, 6:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-a-living-dead-heres-why-and-how-to-fix-this/237140/26 "2020-05-02T18:49:55Z")
You can buy both these days. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_Ronuken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/steve_ronuken/32/373894_2.png) [@Steve\_Ronuken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Steve_Ronuken)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2020, 7:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-a-living-dead-heres-why-and-how-to-fix-this/237140/27 "2020-05-02T19:06:24Z")
**lol** ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_Ronuken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/steve_ronuken/32/373894_2.png) [@Steve\_Ronuken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Steve_Ronuken)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2020, 7:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-a-living-dead-heres-why-and-how-to-fix-this/237140/28 "2020-05-02T19:06:38Z")
(formatting counts) ---
**Author:** ![Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/archer_en_tilavine/32/461718_2.png) [@Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Archer_en_Tilavine)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2020, 7:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-a-living-dead-heres-why-and-how-to-fix-this/237140/29 "2020-05-02T19:08:58Z")
this is why I voted for you except you might have lost my vote because you used two replies instead of one :aura: ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_Ronuken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/steve_ronuken/32/373894_2.png) [@Steve\_Ronuken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Steve_Ronuken)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2020, 7:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-a-living-dead-heres-why-and-how-to-fix-this/237140/30 "2020-05-02T19:15:15Z")
Good thing I’m not running this year then 😉 anyway, it was two replies, to show that it was possible 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/archer_en_tilavine/32/461718_2.png) [@Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Archer_en_Tilavine)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2020, 7:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-a-living-dead-heres-why-and-how-to-fix-this/237140/31 "2020-05-02T19:27:09Z")
Aww maaaaaaan… well you need to tell us your endorsements, then. Your endorsements carry weight with me and my crew. ---
**Author:** ![Vas\_Eldryn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vas_eldryn/32/198395_2.png) [@Vas\_Eldryn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vas_Eldryn)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2020, 6:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-a-living-dead-heres-why-and-how-to-fix-this/237140/32 "2020-05-04T06:45:42Z")
EVE needs 3 things… 1. PVE must be made fun 2. PVP must be made fun 3. the game must be made fun because nobody wants to play a game that IS NOT FUN! I play X Com 2, Witcher 3, WarThunder, etc because they are fun … EVE is not fun. ---
**Author:** ![CaCi-A\_001Me](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/caci-a_001me/32/279826_2.png) [@CaCi-A\_001Me](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CaCi-A_001Me)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2020, 10:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-a-living-dead-heres-why-and-how-to-fix-this/237140/33 "2020-05-06T22:09:45Z")
> [@Mr\_Raven\_101](#): > > Old players with established infrastructure sitting their nests and wont to move anywhere else > New players instead cant get their place cuz they get insta bashing from the old ones “just for fun” What’s your point? vOv > [@Mr\_Raven\_101](#): > > SP gap also create major limitaons to new players. In the end as new player - you have only 2 ways, join one of these ally as a pet or sit in Hi-sec. Yaaaaah… that’s usually how it goes. Again, what’s your point? > [@Mr\_Raven\_101](#): > > And anyway you will play by their rules cuz they generate most of EVE GDP in all ways. > If you wanna crate your own empire - you cant do that with current state of the game. You don’t have to play by anyone’s rules but your own, in ingame world terms that is. And why wouldn’t you be able to create your own empire? Everyone else seems to be able to. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Raven\_101](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_raven_101/32/383465_2.png) [@Mr\_Raven\_101](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Raven_101)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2020, 10:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-a-living-dead-heres-why-and-how-to-fix-this/237140/34 "2020-05-06T22:49:54Z")
> [@CaCi-A\_001Me](#): > > What’s your point? vOv Give more space for new players ---
**Author:** ![James\_Baboli](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/james_baboli/32/408702_2.png) [@James\_Baboli](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/James_Baboli)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2020, 11:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-a-living-dead-heres-why-and-how-to-fix-this/237140/35 "2020-05-06T23:02:43Z")
> [@Mr\_Raven\_101](#): > > Give more space for new players Tons of space exists with next to no activity as it is. No new space is needed. There _might_ be an argument for more locations with x or y NPC infrastructure tailored to new player desires, but that’s a might. ---
**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2020, 11:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-a-living-dead-heres-why-and-how-to-fix-this/237140/36 "2020-05-06T23:08:45Z")
Including wormholes, there are roughly 7,000 systems. If there are 30,000 players online, that’s only a little over 4 players per system. There’s plenty of space… ---
**Author:** ![James\_Baboli](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/james_baboli/32/408702_2.png) [@James\_Baboli](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/James_Baboli)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2020, 11:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-a-living-dead-heres-why-and-how-to-fix-this/237140/37 "2020-05-06T23:16:24Z")
closer to 8k. 7801 player accessible systems. Which means… we hit an average of 4 players per system at at time if we have a stable population of roughly 31k players. Given clustering, there’s likely places which haven’t seen 4 concurrent players active in months, but that’s on players not finding the spaces not on the lack of existence of such space. ---
**Author:** ![angomu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/angomu/32/198447_2.png) [@angomu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/angomu)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2020, 10:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-a-living-dead-heres-why-and-how-to-fix-this/237140/38 "2020-05-07T10:58:33Z")
> [@CaCi-A 001Me](#): > > > [@Mr\_Raven\_101](#): > > > > Old players with established infrastructure sitting their nests and wont to move anywhere else > > New players instead cant get their place cuz they get insta bashing from the old ones “just for fun” > > What’s your point? vOv pretty obvious no ? new player dont have a chance to actually “try” the game, i myself tryed inviting some friends for the last few years, but everytime they were out in high sec “trying” the game, you always had someone coming ganking on them (either during mission or when mining) not also to say that concord doesnt protect (seriously should ! if goal is to try get more new player to start the game) but punish but again “punish?” when your a corp that make billions, if not trillions isk a month this “punishement” isnt really one … so yeah point is this game is extremly new player hostile, not because of gameplay, but because of the community ---
**Author:** ![Ms\_Steak](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ms_steak/32/168834_2.png) [@Ms\_Steak](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ms_Steak)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2020, 11:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-a-living-dead-heres-why-and-how-to-fix-this/237140/39 "2020-05-07T11:30:15Z")
> [@Wadiest\_Yong](#): > > There is literally one (1) player in EvE who has visited all solar systems and wormholes of New Eden. The character’s name is Katia Sae. A grand monument was erected in her honor in Saisio The achievement is for “visiting all EvE systems without losing a ship”. Thats very different compared to just visiting all systems. ---
**Author:** ![Lugburz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugburz/32/486230_2.png) [@Lugburz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugburz)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2020, 11:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-a-living-dead-heres-why-and-how-to-fix-this/237140/40 "2020-05-07T11:50:36Z")
My god your spelling and punctuation is amazing fro such a young age! [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-a-living-dead-heres-why-and-how-to-fix-this/237140.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-a-living-dead-heres-why-and-how-to-fix-this/237140.md?page=3)