# EVE is an easy 7/10 on Josh Strife Hayes' Pay2Win scale

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**Created:** [March 24, 2024, 1:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-an-easy-7-10-on-josh-strife-hayes-pay2win-scale/444032 "2024-03-24T13:24:36Z")\
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**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2024, 11:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-an-easy-7-10-on-josh-strife-hayes-pay2win-scale/444032/52 "2024-03-25T11:52:44Z")

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> [@Karak\_Terrel](#):
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> They will try again, I’m absolutely sure. And the remaining players that don’t quit over it will pretend it’s not Pay2Win

First you falsely accuse people of moving the goalposts in your previous post.

I have clearly stated what I think is P2W and even quit over it, which you know because you posted in [my thread about this same topic](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/golden-ammo/414551/8) at that time, and second, the item has been withdrawn so the others who remain are not shifting goal posts of “must be overwhelming advantage instead of little advantage” like you claim either.

Then, when I show that these goal posts have not been shifted, you present a slippery slope fallacy “they will try again, I’m absolutely sure” and claim that people will still shift their goal posts in that hypothetical scenario?

What are you trying to do? Are you trying to insist that people who are not against PLEX are hypocrites?

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